Why would a Christian with true faith argue with an agnostic like myself?

Question

I'm not talking about the ones that are trying to "save" me, rather the ones that are just plain mad (you know who you are). If they didn't feel threatened, wouldn't they just smile and move on? It kind of makes me think their faith isn't quite as strong as they'd like to believe..........

Just curious........

"LEXICON" missed a big part of the question. I'm an agnostic. That means I've faith in nothing. If I was an atheist, her point would be solid. Thus, the point is moot.

Read your questions carefully people.

-"CRIS C", I caught you arguing with "the fo0T". tisk tisk.........Santa is watching

-"second star", you're chasing your tail. It's not logical. Faith lies in belief. One cannot possibly have faith that they "don't know", when in fact they "don't know" and consequently, don't believe.

Answer 1

I'm not interested in arguing with either agnostics nor athiests, but I am interested in discovering what their beliefs are. You'd be surprised at how many things people of different belief systems can agree on.

Answer 2

I never argue....Paul told us not to.

P.S. ADDITION: You added this to your question?

-"CRIS C", I caught you arguing with "the fo0T". tisk tisk.........Santa is watching

I hardly call the following response to a question an argument. Simply my opinion in giving an answer. Keep watching Santa.
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Another Magesterial teaching is that scripture cannot be used to counter scripture.

Especially examples taken from the four Gospels...because, the Gospels were never intended, nor have true biblical scholars taken them, to be precise histories. They were written by individuals many years after the events and read more like a witness statement police would take at a crime scene. They all will read a little differently from the other but the overall truth and essence of the events are there and consistent.

If you're hanging your hat on a simple thing like if the veil was rent(curtain torn) either before or after Jesus died, you will have to do much better. No educated Bible scholar of any religious background will run with that one.

Answer 3

VERY GOOD POINT!!!!! I was just thinking that same thing yesterday.....The anger involved in the debate tells me that they are not truly confident in their stance.

I am an expert witness in court for nursing cases and when I go up against another expert witness who's credentials aren't even close to mine. And, when I have a thorough knowledge of the content, I don't get defensive or rude, I get confident and poised, because I know my stuff.

It's interesting because I actually do believe in Christ, but I find more reasonable logic with the atheists/agnostics that I do with the other group. You guys see the pink elephant, so-to-speak, clearly in the middle of the floor, so I think you guys are on track.....But they think you are going to Hell.

Answer 4

When you argue with Christians about their faith, some Christians are more "hot-headed" than others. Just because they get angry or upset doesn't necessarily mean their faith isn't strong (although that is a possibility) -- it could just be that they get defensive and try to defend their Lord. I have a great amount of faith in the Lord, but sometimes react in ways that I shouldn't.

Answer 5

I don't know! Most reasonable christians don't, and I wouldn't use the Christians on Y! Answers as a particularly great representation of the majority of Christians out there.

But I would like to say that your agnosticism requires no less faith than does atheism. Allow me to explain:

"Faith" in one's beliefs is entirely different than "faith" in a God. In other words, using the first definition, one could argue that you have "faith" that you don't know anything for sure. Using faith in that sense merely means you believe you're right - we ALL have that kind! Don't confuse "faithful" atheists with the type of faithfulness required to trust & believe in something we can't see or prove. If, for example, you were agnostic in all areas of your life, you would be uncertain about the existence of Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and pink unicorns. Assuming you don't believe that these things exist - would you say that you have FAITH they don't exist, or that you THINK they don't exist? You have reasons for not believing in Santa Claus, despite the fact that he's never, for all intents and purposes, been disproven. You have rational reasons why it's not likely that he does. Your best guess is that he does not. It isn't a matter of faith - it's a matter of deciding what is more likely based on your knowledge of world history and human nature.

Even believing in something that is incorrect doesn't necessarily require faith - it requires rational decisions made on poor information.

But the "faith" that religious people have in God(s) means that they essentially choose to act, not necessarily incorrectly, but irrationally - that word is not meant as an insult, but merely, that they are not believing because of tangible reasons. Anyone who tries to "prove" their faith, is no longer acting faithfully!

That's my two cents. I hope you cease to be bothered by those pesky Christians (they do know who they are!) =)

Answer 6

You never know what people are going through. And for better or worse, Christians are just people. We fail. We make mistakes.

We're called to keep growing, but that doesn't mean we never stumble.

Maybe some days they're frustrated with other things and take it out on you. Maybe you remind them of an archetypal person they can't work things out with face to face. Who knows?

It also makes sense that if one loves God, one would hate to see Him defamed or slandered. You may be the 89th person to ask an offensive question and you end up getting all the indignity heaped upon you.

There are many possibilities.

Answer 7

I would hope that they were concerned and care about you. I would hope they wanted to share with you how and what they feel/believe. A true Christian would desire that no one would miss salvation. There is a right and wrong way of doing things. Maybe some are using the wrong way but their bottom line should be to help the person and see why they believe what they believe.

Answer 8

Probably becuase they're walking according to their flesh and not according to the leading of the Holy Spirit of God.

Galatians 5:15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another. 16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

Answer 9

Because you make me angry with your college boy questions. Why, back when I was a kid, we didn't have Internet. We didn't even have dictionaries. If he had question, we just made up an answer. We didn't need any of this fancy Yahoo Answers stuff.

So, I'm not arguing. I'm telling you that you either need to join my church, the Church of Don, or you are headed down the slipper slope toward hell.

Good luck dude! You'll need it.

Answer 10

No man ever believes that the Bible means what it says: He is always convinced that it says what he means.
George Bernard Shaw

When people are fanatically dedicated to political or religious faiths or any other kinds of dogmas or goals, it's always because these dogmas or goals are in doubt.
Robert M. Pirsig