Enoch and Elijah, according to the bible, were raptured up into heaven and will return to face the antichrist. So another quick question for you chrsitians:
Howcome God didn't wipe adam and eve's sins away? If he was able to wipe elijah and enoch's sins away (this was way before Jesus by the way) then howcome everyone else couldn't get their sins taken away? I thought jesus said that he had to die for our sins. But this isn't true since elijah and enoch were taken into heaven.
The bible also says no unrightenous man/woman goes into heaven. So we can assume God took their sins away.
Anyways, please answer. I may have to ask again tomorrow since its so late right now.
2006-08-15 17:13:28 · 15 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
chris p:
did you even read my question?
2006-08-15 17:34:23 · update #1
" Its his game, and he makes the rules. Where were you when he formed this plan, and why can't you accept it ?"
Because I think its called lying. All men have fallen short of the glory, says the bible. All people needed Jesus to be saved. yet somehow there was an exception with enoch and elijah. YOu can't just say "he does what he wants" and think thats alright. This enoch/elijah being forgiven thing means that God lied about needing jesus for forgiveness.
2006-08-15 17:36:56 · update #2
"God did not simply wipe away Adam and Eve's sin because He is a Just God"
but someone he can wipe enoch and elijah's sins away and call it a day?
2006-08-15 17:38:19 · update #3
Scripture says Enoch "was no more"; he was simply taken.
Elijah was taken up to heaven in the flaming chariot.
After Christ ascended to the Father, The Holy Spirit descended to dwell in and with men. He was not with man all the time from the time of Adam and Eve until then.
During the Old Testament times the Holy Spirit would come on to individual prophets of God for God's purposes, but would not stay permenantly or with all men, only the one. God even spoke to Moses face to face when Moses received the law.
God chooses who He bestows special graces on and He does it for His purposes according to His plans. The Same thing happened to Mary to prepare her to be the mother of Jesus. Whatever graces were given to her, were not for her sake or because she was good enough to receive them, but for His plans to have a sinless vessel for God, the Son, to dwell in as an unborn child.
God did not simply wipe away Adam and Eve's sin because He is a Just God and He had warned them that to eat of the tree He forbid them to even touch would cause them to die. If God then recanted and just pat them on the head and said it was ok anyway, there would not have been justice according to God's infallible word. God is immutable...unchanging.
Adam and Eve did eventually achieve salvation but it came throught the actions of Christ and they were brought out of Sheol or Purgatory when Jesus descended into Hell, took the keys and those waiting there, and ascended to heaven to the right hand of the Father.
P.S. ADDITION: You people are all the same...you pick and choose what you want to repeat out of context. When you borrowed my line about Adam and Eve and God being Just and put up it up in your tag line for better visibilty you conveinently left out the whole thing. You don't want answers or even dialog...you're just looking to slash away.
2006-08-15 17:17:02 · answer #1 · answered by Augustine 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Listen man--they were saved by their faith. God is the same yesterday, today, and forever, right? He is outside of time. And Jesus is in fact God, right? Jesus died for the sins of the world--so the blood of Jesus covers people like Adam and Eve, Enoch, Elijah, etc.
Anyone who called upon the name of the Lord, the true God, before the time of Jesus was saved....
2006-08-16 04:40:43 · answer #2 · answered by Josh 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Enoch's sins were apparently forgiven. The Bible says "he walked with God." Gen. 5:22,24. Walking with God is living a righteous life of faith, trusting God and doing what was right in the sight of the Lord.
Elijah, as a prophet of God listened to the Lord and was lead by God, and gifted by God to perform miracles and healings.
Elijah was taken up into heaven in a whirlwind at the appearence of a firey chariot. (2 Kings 2:11)
Adam and Eve were given opportunity to have their sins fogiven through a blood sacrifice. The first blood sacrifice was the animal slain by God to provide them "coats of skins" which in turn covered over the knowledge that sin brought with it.
2006-08-15 17:32:08 · answer #3 · answered by Bob L 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
YEs, Enoch and Elijah did their best to serve God and be righteous, then the Atonement of Jesus Christ is sufficient to make them spotless before God. Everyone's sins can be washed away with the Atonement of Christ, starting from Adam and Eve till the last person on earth. Although Christ was on earth for 33 something years, His Atonement is infinite and eternal and applicable to all humankind. God forgives people if they have faith in His Son, repent, be baptized, receive the Holy ghost and endure to the end. Those who died in negligence will surely be saved, since God is just
2006-08-15 17:26:49 · answer #4 · answered by Sailormoon 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
On the fiery chariot for Elijah and Enoch was translated.
To be translated means to be changed from one thing to another.
Perhaps the first rapture.
They are both going to come back, they are the two witnesses of Revelation.
It is written it is appointed unto men to die once and then the judgment.
Those two did not die. So they have to come back. You really don't want to be here when they come back.
Talk about a whacker-roo.
You can make any assumption you want.
Why are you concerned about where Adam and Eve are?
Doesn't the Bible also say that you are not to ask who shall go down or who shall go up.
I think that you should be thinking more about yourself.
2006-08-15 17:28:02 · answer #5 · answered by chris p 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
God took them up....He is God and His ways are not our ways. He can do whatever He wants. Jesus did die for our sins; the Bible documents this blessed deed. We don't have to assume anything :)....read, study, fellowship and pray for wisdom, knowledge and understanding as you get into the Word of God through the Bible.
2006-08-15 17:41:07 · answer #6 · answered by goose 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
According to scripture NO MAN has gone to heaven. I don't know where he went but look at what Jesus said in the following scripture.
John.3
[13] And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
2006-08-15 18:03:55 · answer #7 · answered by Harley Charley 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Jer 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
this was the only way a holy man could be on earth at this time.
Elijah and enoc never saw death but no they will not be back until jesus comes with his saints on ress day
2006-08-15 17:33:45 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I thought Enoch had faith in Jesus Christ and that is how his sins were forgiven... but like you say... it is late and I don't have time to look it up right now.
2006-08-15 17:34:13 · answer #9 · answered by ♥Tom♥ 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Well, I know this doesn't EXACTLY answer your question, but it may help. in Genesis 15:6 and Romans 4:3 it says that Abraham's faith was credited to him as righteousness. Perhaps you could apply the same to truth to the others who believed God.
2006-08-15 17:28:05 · answer #10 · answered by kerri s 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋