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Unfortunately, if you dare to argue any of the many valid reasons against illegal immigration and amnesty, you will be called names and faced with a myriad of nonsensical excuses (from the pro-illegal alien crowd and their lobbyists):
Tradition:
MYTH: As George Bush said: "We are a land of immigrants". We can not pull up the drawbridge now, unless we dismantle the Statue of Liberty. Otherwise, we are all hypocrites.
TRUTH: This is a common ploy. Yes, we are a land of immigrants. Mostly legal. We are enriched by legal immigration; not by massive, uncontrolled, illegal immigration.

Economics:
MYTH: The U.S. will crumble without illegal aliens. We need immigrants to pay the Social Security of the Baby Boomers when they begin to retire. Immigrants do jobs citizens won’t do. Who would pick our produce? Who would make the beds and wash the dishes?
TRUTH: This is a common myth, since illegal aliens are costing U.S. tax payers a net loss of at least $70 billion per year. $70 billion will pick a lot of vegetables and fruit, eh?

Humanitarianism:
MYTH: You are selfish to put the needs of poor citizens ahead of more desperate people in other nations, by denying them entry into our country. The U.S. is obligated to share with others. Large-scale immigration is a significant way for the U.S. to help the impoverished people of the world.
TRUTH: It is also selfish to forget to show compassion for your fellow citizens that go without because illegal aliens have stolen from and burdened our welfare, Medicaid, education, healthcare, hospital, E.R., Medicare, Social Security, law enforcement, prison, insurance, and voting systems.

Diversity:
MYTH: Increasing diversity through immigration is necessary to be true to our civil rights principles. Opposition to illegal immigration is racist. We are obligated to accommodate millions of immigrants per year because our strength is our diversity; the diversity of immigrants made America great. And, Christopher Columbus was the first illegal alien, and we stole the land from the Indians.
TRUTH: That is the old stand-by. You are a racist. However, race has nothing to do with it since illegal aliens are of all races from all over the world. Diversity is good, but massive, uncontrolled, illegal immigration itself leads to racism due to chaos, societal disorder, resentments, and increased competition for a slice of a shrinking pie.

Irredentism:
MYTH: We have no right to secure U.S. borders, because U.S. borders are illegitimate to start with. The U.S. really belongs to the Indians and other neighboring nations, to start with.
TRUTH: This is another lame argument. If you want to use that logic, we should all give back all of our nations to the original inhabitants, or their ancestors. This lame argument is just one of many that demonstrate how weak all of the pro-illegal alien arguments are.

Cornucopianism:
MYTH: The free market and technology will save us. We are the land of plenty. Besides, we need illegal aliens to grow out of our massive debt problems. They will become new tax payers, and we can grow our way out of debt.
TRUTH: Even if that were true, does it justify using an under-paid underclass to remedy our debt problems? This simply does not make sense, since illegal aliens are costing U.S. taxpayers net losses of over $70 billion per year.

Globalism:
MYTH: We live in a global economy now, requiring new global solutions. Securing the U.S. borders is futile, since it is inadequate to deal with globalization.
TRUTH: With increasing competition abroad, growing corporatism and corpocrisy, an increasingly irresponsible, bought-and-paid-for, elitist government, we can not grow, tax, or immigrate enough to eliminate our fiscal problems.

Practicality:
MYTH: It is not possible to deport 12+ million illegal aliens.
TRUTH: There is no need to deport illegal aliens. We can help deport those that volunteer to be deported, but once the magnets are eliminated, illegal aliens will leave voluntarily

The proposals to provide a Guest Worker Program is essentially a ruse. It is essentially an Amnesty Program, since illegal aliens will be allowed to stay, ridiculously complex rules associated with the Guest Worker Program will increase law enforcement duties and tracking requirements, many times over, and those laws will be not be enforced any more than current laws. And massive deportation is not necessary either.

If the magnets that attract illegal aliens here are eliminated, illegal aliens will stop coming here, and many will leave voluntarily. Especially if we offer to pre-pay their transportation to return to their homeland, and provide a reasonable amount of money to help make their return trip home.

Some may say that is unfair. However, U.S. citizens are justified to also have compassion for their own citizens, first. For those U.S. citizens supporting amnesty and a repeat of the 1986 amnesty . . .

Where is the compassion for the victims of increased crime rates (Source: GAO-05-646R, based on a study group of 55,322 illegal aliens over a 57 year period; 29% of all incarcerated are illegal aliens) ?
Where is the compassion for U.S. citizens that go without healthcare and access to E.R.s because ERs and hospitals are over-flowing with illegal aliens (of which many don't pay)? Is this fair to U.S. tax payers ?
Where is the compassion for the truly needy U.S. citizens that can not get help because of limited resources and 32% of illegal aliens receiving welfare instead ?
Where is the outrage of the greedy employers of illegal aliens ?
Where is the compassion for the U.S. victims and survivors of crimes perpetrated by illegal aliens (29% of all prisoners are illegal aliens), and the crime rates are rising.
Where is the compassion for U.S. citizens who's lives have been changed forever by illegal aliens that spread disease ? One illegal alien in Santa Barbara, California infected 56 other people with tuberculosis as reported on April 24, 2004, by the Santa Barbara Press-News, "Anatomy of an Outbreak". Because illegal alien migration into the USA continues unabated for the past 20 years, we now have 16,000 new cases of incurable MDR tuberculosis in the past five years. We suffer 7,000 new cases of leprosy. We tolerate 100,000 new cases of hepatitis "A" in our society. Chagas Disease, which affects 14 million South Americans and kills 50,000 annually, streams across our borders as unchecked thousands enter our society illegally. If your child goes to public school, they could be exposed, as thousands already have been.
Where is the compassion for the U.S. tax payers that experience a net loss of about $70 billion per year due to all the numerous problems stemming from illegal aliens?

2006-08-15 10:31:46 · 14 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government Immigration

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Those who insist that this issue doesn't deserve the attention that it receives are either illegal alien sympathizers or they have their heads stuck in a place that sees very little sunshine.

The information that you've quoted above is readily available on the internet from a variety of sources if someone cares enough to do a simple Google search.

However, I've deduced from many of the replies that I've read on this site, that research is not only an unknown quantity for many of these people, but reading anything beyond a "Peanuts" cartoon or two, completely taxes their little cerebrums.

I think that you've made many intelligent and irrefutable points. Nicely done.

2006-08-15 10:54:10 · answer #1 · answered by socalrogueling 2 · 1 2

That's a great article and I would like to say my part
I worked in a local(Nevada)hospital in the not so happy part of town because it is all turned in to illegal alien town and no one wants to live there when these people would come in for medical care 99% would not pay they would pre register to deliver there babies and get all the extra give aways for signing up early car seats, bottles etc than would never make a payment and would come in deliver and leave never to be seen again no ssn to track them no real address because no real id was obtained and of course you can't turn them away our hospitals are losing money and going into high debt so they can't afford good doc's, or better machine's or just make more room for all the new people because of people who do not pay America is falling apart because we let them get way w/this if someone anyone would just grow some balls and say hey you did do something wrong you need to go it would be the best thing to ever happen to America I am all for coming to the country to better yourself but we have laws and rules for a reason they should be upheld or taken away but if something is not done I seriously fear for my child's future

2006-08-15 10:50:01 · answer #2 · answered by barbie89032 3 · 2 0

There is a lot of truth in that.

It could probably be split up between a number of questions.

I find that a lot of people here don't want to read much.

2006-08-15 10:42:11 · answer #3 · answered by DAR 7 · 2 0

I think illegal aliens should be rounded up and thrown out of our country, if they want in so bad they should try in become a citizen legaly.

2006-08-15 10:43:51 · answer #4 · answered by hell_raiser2021 2 · 2 0

It is a much more complex issue than people are willing to admit to

2006-08-15 10:38:49 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

You are 100% right.

2006-08-15 10:38:45 · answer #6 · answered by Kris B 5 · 2 0

i'm not for or against it

i just don't give a crap. let them come. i don't care.

its not like i'm dying from it.

this issie gets WAY more attention than it needs. there are more than five times the ammount of crime done by citizens than by illegals. but yet here we are so concerned over a few mexicans tha happened to stumble on in.

in a way, this is racist. why does this issue get more attention than american criminals?

next real "problem" please!

2006-08-15 10:36:12 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 4

How about providing some sources for your 'truths'? Plagiarism makes Baby Jesus cry.

2006-08-15 10:36:59 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 3

you're right, back then there were a lot of immigrants who some came legally.... but do you know how much easier it was for them? wouldn't you think the hispanic community would come legally if they could??... There's no other way... if there is, please tell me..

2006-08-15 11:05:11 · answer #9 · answered by sly 4 · 0 2

perfect, it tells all the truths about the plague that they are. one one in their right mind can argue these facts. of course none them are of right mind................

2006-08-15 10:41:07 · answer #10 · answered by 1hunglo 3 · 2 0

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