Jacob or Helli?
2006-08-15 08:32:43 · 11 answers · asked by PicassoInActions 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
According to Jewish law, tribal identification comes from the father's side, being Jewish, from the mother's side. According to Matthew 1, Joseph was descended from David (Although there are many contradictions between his genealogy there and that listed in Luke, however according to the same text, Joseph did not have sexual relations with Mary, therefore Jesus was not related to Joseph, and not a descendant of King David.
Three answers to this problem are given in classic Christian sources:
1. The genealogy is that of Mary - This is inadequate, since if he is claimed to be the Jewish messiah, and according to Jewish tradition he must be descended on his father's side, Mary's genealogy is irrelevant.
2. He was adopted by Joseph -According to Jewish law, adoption does not change the status of the child. If an Israelite is adopted by a Cohen, (A descendant of Aaron the High Priest), the child does not become a Cohen, likewise if a descendant of David, adopts someone who is not, he does not become of the tribe of Judah and a descendant of David.
3. It doesn't matter, he was a spiritual inheritor of King David - If it doesn't matter, why do Christian scriptures spend time establishing his genealogical pedigree? And if he is claimed to be the Jewish messiah, then according to Jewish tradition it does matter!
2006-08-15 08:38:32 · answer #1 · answered by Quantrill 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Jacob and Helli are the same. Matthew 1:16 and Luke 3:23.
2006-08-15 15:45:34 · answer #2 · answered by 4me2no&u2findout 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Which Joseph?
Jacob had two sons with Rachel: Joseph & Benjamin
2006-08-15 15:40:26 · answer #3 · answered by SAHM2_1B_1G 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Jacob is Joseph's father.
Heli, translated Eli is Mary's father.
2006-08-15 15:44:02 · answer #4 · answered by brokentogether 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Joseph that was sold into egypt?
Jacob, but he was also named Isreal.
2006-08-15 15:37:33 · answer #5 · answered by daisyk 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Which Joseph?
2006-08-15 15:37:04 · answer #6 · answered by Linn E 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
iDo you mean Joseph (coat of many colors) son of Jacob and Rachel
2006-08-15 15:38:08 · answer #7 · answered by Grandma Susie 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I understand that Heli was Joseph's father-in-law, Mary's father. (I don't know what happened to Joachim) It was customary to do it that way in those days.
It was necessary to have Mary's lineage, since Jewishness is passed down through the mother's line.
2006-08-15 15:41:09 · answer #8 · answered by freelancenut 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
jacob.
2006-08-15 15:36:40 · answer #9 · answered by kittens 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Pick your biblical reference, and you can choose either: both are cited.
2006-08-15 15:38:13 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋