I have it! The definition of an infidel according to Islamic Theology! Are you in the category?

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I recently got a post from one marissa of this very site. Breathe a sigh of relief!

marissa said:
WHO IS AN INFIDEL?

who are not kind and compassionate to entire humankind
infidels are people who torture others,
who dont help needy ,
who commit adultary, who lie, steal and kill
those who bear false witness against brothers
those who dont serve their parents and community
those who take taxes
those who associate false Gods
those who do not give chrity
those who opress the orphans
those who burn widows alive with their dead hubbies(sati)
those who shave widow women bald (christianity)
those who considered woman was a slave and 3rd class citizen
those who say that a woman cannot give witness
those wgo play with a woman's reputation
those who say that woman cannot be educated or give sermons
those who let their women and men commit fornication
those who do not desire what they deisre for them selves
those who are not kind
those who are not patient and enduring
those who are arrogant

u need proof i ll give u
surah AL-MAIDAH FROM Quran

12 Allah made a covenant of old with the Children of Israel and We raised among them twelve chieftains, and Allah said: Lo! I am with you. If ye establish worship and pay the poor-due, and believe in My messengers and support them, and lend unto Allah a kindly loan, surely I shall remit your sins, and surely I shall bring you into Gardens underneath which rivers flow. Whoso among you disbelieveth after this will go astray from a plain road.

13 And because of their breaking their covenant, We have cursed them and made hard their hearts. They change words from their context and forget a part of that whereof they were admonished. Thou wilt not cease to discover treachery from all save a few of them. But bear with them and pardon them. Lo! Allah loveth the kindly.

14 And with those who say: "Lo! we are Christians," We made a covenant, but they forgot a part of that whereof they were admonished. Therefor We have stirred up enmity and h

So now we can relax and let them take over the World! We should feel safer!

bregweidd,
That was a really funny thing to say, but look at our future, Islam is definitely our enemy, at least the part we can see.

hayaa_bi_taqwa,
You didn't make anything better with that post. You seem well educated, but clinically insane.

You are excusing being put to death for a reason in the Quaran. "We never punish until we have sent a messenger " magnifies my distrust with you and your kind.

You certainly didn't help your cause.

Answer 1

sounds like the whole world is in deep sh*t

Answer 2

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RE:
I have it! The definition of an infidel according to Islamic Theology! Are you in the category?
I recently got a post from one marissa of this very site. Breathe a sigh of relief!

marissa said:
WHO IS AN INFIDEL?

who are not kind and compassionate to entire humankind
infidels are people who torture others,
who dont help needy ,
who commit adultary, who lie, steal and kill
those who...

Answer 3

Nope to all, am I still an infidel? I am not Muslim.
Oh what the hell difference this makes, they gonna blow me away anyway.

Answer 4

Good info but instead of those who take taxes, it is those who take interest. Intrest is money that is not earned, and is basically equivalent to stealing (though many would agree the same for taxes, lol). Here is another defined article on what an "infidel" (which is wrongly translated) really is:


"I want to know the concept of infidels/kafirs in Islam. Does it refer to all non-Muslims including People of the Book? Is it okay to call them kafirs/infidels.

Also, in Surat Al-Kafirun, who are the kafirun who are being addressed?

Jazakum Allah khairan.
AnswerSalam, Muslimah.

Thank you for your question, which I think is an important one.

First of all, the word "kafir" does not necessarily mean "infidel" as you mentioned in your question. The word "kafir" (and variations of it) is mentioned in the Qur'an in five different senses:

1. Kufr al-tawheed: to reject the belief in the Oneness of God. The Qur'an says what means:
*{As to those who reject faith (kafaru), it is the same to them whether you warn them or do not warn them; they will not believe }* (Al-Baqarah
2:6)
2. Kufr al-ni`mah: to lack gratefulness to God or to people. The Qur'an says what means:
*{Therefore remember Me, I will remember you, and be thankful to Me, and do not be ungrateful to Me (la takfurun)}* (Al-Baqarah 2:152)

*{[Pharaoh] said [to Moses]: And you did [that] deed of yours which you did, and you are one of the ungrateful (kafireen)}* (Ash-Shu`araa' 26:18-19)
3. Kufr at-tabarri: to disown/clear oneself from. The Qur'an says what means:
*{Indeed, there is for you a good example in Ibrahim and those with him when they said to their people: "Surely we are clear of you (kafarna bekom)."}* (Al-Mumtahanah 60:4)
4. Kufr al-juhud: to deny. The Qur'an says what means: *{When there comes to them that which they [should] have recognized, they deny (kafaru) it.}* (Al-Baqarah 2:89)
5. Kufr at-taghtiyah: to hide/bury something, like planting a seed in the ground. The Qur'an says what means:
*{The likeness of vegetation after rain, whereof the growth is pleasing to the husbandmen/tillers (kuffar.}* (Al-Hadid 57:20)
Exegesis (tafseer) scholars decide as to which meaning of the word "kufr/kafir" is meant in a specific verse based on the context. Therefore, not every use of the root "ka fa ra" means the rejection of faith. For example, when the Prophet (peace be upon him) warned some of his companions from becoming "kuffar" after his death, he did not mean that they would become disbelievers but rather that they would become ungrateful to Allah, for the blessing of unity, when they fight each other after his death.

Regarding whether to call non-Muslims "kuffar" or not, the answer is that we should call people the names that the Qur'an gave them. In the Qur'an, you will not find a single "O disbelievers" ("Ya Kuffar", "Ya ayuhalathina kafaru", or "Ya ayuhal-kafirun") other than in the following two places:

1. In Hellfire, we seek refuge in Allah from it. The Qur'an says what means:
*{[Then it will be said]: "O ye who disbelieve (Ya ayuhalathina kafaru)! Make no excuses for yourselves this day.}* (At-Tahrim 66:7)
So, it is something that is said to them by Allah Almighty or by the angels, not by us.

2. In Surat Al-Kafirun (109) that you mentioned in your question. It says what means:
*{Say [O Muhammad]: "O ye that reject faith (al-Kafirun)! I worship not that which ye worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship."}*
But this surah is addressing Prophet Muhammad and therefore must be understood in its historical context. Allah is asking Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) to address a group of leaders from Makkah who offered him the following deal: That they all including Muhammad worship God for one year and then they all worship the idols for the next year, and so on. That is why Allah asked him to address them in this term "rejecters of faith" and to refuse to accept this kind of deal.

In the rest of the Qur'an, however, the Qur'anic style followed two principals:

1. To label certain sayings or actions to be sayings or actions of kufr (disbelief or rejection of faith), without labeling any specific group of people with that name and calling them with it. For example, the Qur'an says what means:
*{Certainly they disbelieve who say: Surely God is the third [person] of the three. And there is no god but One God, and if they desist not from what they say, a painful chastisement shall befall those among them who disbelieve [reject]. Will they not then turn to Allah and ask His forgiveness? And Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. The Messiah, son of Mary is but a messenger; messengers before him have indeed passed away; and his mother was a truthful woman.}* (Al-Ma'idah 5:73-75)
2. To distinguish clearly between idol-worshippers, on one hand, and believers in God and a Script that went through a phase of corruption, on the other hand. Allah called the later group only by the name "People of the Book." For example, the Qur'an says what means:
*{Quite a number of the People of the Book wish they could turn you [people] back to infidelity after ye have believed, from selfish envy, after the truth hath become manifest unto them. But, forgive and overlook, till Allah accomplish His purpose; for Allah Hath power over all things.}* (Al-Baqarah 2:109)

*{It is He Who got out the Unbelievers among the People of the Book from their homes at the first gathering [of the forces]. Little did ye think that they would get out: And they thought that their fortresses would defend them from Allah! But the [wrath of] Allah came to them from quarters from which they little expected [it], and cast terror into their hearts, so that they destroyed their dwellings by their own hands and the hands of the Believers, take warning, then, O ye with eyes [to see]!}* (Al-Hashr 59:2)
In today's world, we should use the same term "People of the Book" with Christians and Jews, or call them Christians and Jews, if they wish to be called so, or simply call them "non-Muslims".

As for dealing with non-Muslims, the general rule is mentioned in the verse that says what means:
*{Allah does not forbid you respecting those who have not made war against you on account of [your] religion, and have not driven you forth from your homes, that you show them kindness (birr) and deal with them justly; surely Allah loves the doers of justice. Allah only forbids you respecting those who made war upon you on account of [your] religion, and drove you forth from your homes and backed up [others] in your expulsion, that you make friends with them, and whoever makes friends with them, these are the unjust.}* (Al-Mumtahanah 60:8-9) And notice that the word "birr" (translated as kindness) that Allah used in this context is the same word that is used for the type of kindness that a Muslim should show his/her parents as in birr al-walidain )kindness to parents)!!

Finally, it is fair enough before labeling any person as a "rejecter of faith" to make sure that he/she is clearly aware of that faith and what it entails. In my view, most people in today's world did not reject the message because simply they are not aware of what Islam is. This is largely due to the biased international media and to Muslims themselves falling short to present their religion properly to the world. These uninformed people, again in my view, could only fall under the verse that says what means:
*{No laden soul can bear another's load, We never punish until we have sent a messenger.}* (Al-Israa' 17:15)
And Allah knows best."