Oh Jim_Darwin's adversary-
You are so cute.
Lucky, Lucky slaves.
Apprentices?
Hmmm.
Let’s apply this to practical modern life. I received my education and did an internship. I still have student loans out and pay them religiously (no pun intended) by your token I should then work for free until my debt is repaid? Then how do I ever escape being a slave? But, you say these slaves probably wouldn’t be in debt unless they made money, or that they were thrown out when they were worthless?
Lucky, lucky slaves of God.
2006-08-15 06:18:49
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answered by Katy_Kat 5
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Mr Darwin, FYI, Christianity is not communism. If I get slapped on one cheek, I'm ordered to show the other cheek too... not raise red banners and protest. This is the fundamental principle by which Chirsitians anywhere in all circumstances should behave.
In the first century AD, when Christian slaves obeyed their masters unlike their unchristian colleagues, the masters understood that it was more profitable to employ christian slaves. Thus Christian slaves started getting some religious freedom and over the course of the next 300 years Rome became a Christian nation. That is the transforming power of the word of God. God knows better than you or anyone else and when His word says 'Obey your masters' just do that and sit back and watch as your actions alter the course of human history. In this case Ceasar abolished Slavery.
Now back to Mr. Lunatic Darwin, who through the laws of the Jungle like "Survival of the fittest", brought back Slavery to Europe. Slave traders fought against any prick of conscience by consoling themselves that the weak exist for the strong to exploit.
Thus it is the wretch whose name you have, that brought Slavery back not Christianity. Hope your monkey brain has evolved enough to think.
Let All Glory be to God, who through His infinite wisdom abolished slavery among the worst slave traders - the Romans.
And cursed be Darwin, who through his madness brought it back only to be put out for ever by Bible believing Christians.
May your pig-**** filled head recieve a floppy disks worth of enlightenment to underastand that the Scriptures are against slavery. The Bible records God's marvellous plan to redeem man from the Slavery of Sin.
2006-08-15 06:21:34
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answered by jCube 2
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Why are you only using the scriptures from the servant-master angle and not using the scriptures from the master-servant angle?
Slavery as a we saw it in america was wrong.
1 Corinthians 12:13: "For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit."
Galatians 3:28: "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus."
Colossians 3:11: "Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all."
Ephesians 6:9-10 (New International Version)
masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him.
Colossians 4
1Masters, provide your slaves with what is right and fair, because you know that you also have a Master in heaven.
2006-08-15 06:03:42
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answered by williamzo 5
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Slavery is the symbol for sin. Sin enslaves us. I think slavery was allowed in OT times for that very purpose. Those who became "slaves" as a result of their nation being conquered by Israel, became part of the nation of Israel. Slaves were to be freed at certain intervals.
Slavery in that time was more about indebtedness than ownership. You'll notice the word servant is actually used in the verses you cite, not slaves.
As I've said before, the word for slave, servant, and child are often the same Hebrew word. I have serious doubts that slavery then was as slavery in the states.
Slavery in that sense is immoral. It assumes that one person can own another. We belong to God. No other can own us. We may in effect sell ourselves or become indebted to another, but in the end we belong to God.
The verses you cite remind servants that their ultimate service is to God Himself, not to an earthly master.
2006-08-15 09:26:19
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answered by Contemplative Chanteuse IDK TIRH 7
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slavery is immoral, there I said it.
Slavery is no cornerstone to faith, it's something that should be outdated but it was perfectly acceptable then so it was used often in metaphors in the bible.
You have to keep in mind that some of these men were certainly slave owners, and things were skewed from their vision, we have no way of knowing that they were inspired by anything holy.
If you take it 100% literally then you wind up with contradictions, the preaching of equality and love proves troublesome when you're focusing on slavery. take the lesser texts with a grain of salt, try to find a non-metaphor for slavery in the gospels.
and please don't make generalizations that just because you ask a morality question that every christian within shouting distance will respond.
2006-08-15 06:04:34
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answered by Michael J with wings 3
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Are you not a slave yourself, and willing to be a master of slaves had you the opportunity?
1 Cor 7:22
"For he who was a slave when he was called by the Lord is the Lord's freedman; similarly, he who was a free man when he was called is Christ's slave."
Therefore to be free of one bondage is to be subjected to another. In that fact then, we are each a slave no matter how free we perceive it. Yet we are each free, no matter how ensnared.
Christianity in no way promotes slavery, but in every way recognizes slavery as a permanent condition of all society.
What if a man chooses to be enslaved? Shall he be considered free to make that choice, or enslaved against it?
2006-08-15 06:07:15
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answered by Just David 5
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1. None of your scriptural references say that slavery is moral.
2. Jesus said you cannot serve two masters, that we should only serve him.
3. The churches of America started the Abolitionist movement here in the early 1800's, so obviously Christian opposition to slavery goes back a ways.
Learn some history then come back and try again.
2006-08-15 06:04:01
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answered by 1,1,2,3,3,4, 5,5,6,6,6, 8,8,8,10 6
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Gal 3:28 There is no Jew or Greek. There is no slave or free person. There is no male or female. Because you belong to Christ Jesus, you are all one.
The gospel taken in context led to the destruction of that culture of slavery. Part of that was the way slaves were taught to act.
2006-08-15 06:05:25
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answered by Anonymous
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Slavery the way we define it is Immoral and against God. This is different than being a servant.
We define Slavery as people being held against their will, whipped etc.
We are all Servants, if you have a Boss, you are his servant. If you are the Boss, you are a servant to all of your employees and to your Customers, and we are ALL servants to God.
Peace!
2006-08-15 05:59:19
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answered by C 7
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There is the dilemma now... if they come out and rail against slavery being immoral they are openly defying the cornerstone for their religious beliefs. To deny the basis for belief is a sin. Paradox 101.
2006-08-15 05:54:56
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answered by genaddt 7
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