Iran nukes Israel (hypothetical) world response would be?

Question

Okay the scenerio is

Iran gets 2-3 nukes smuggled into Israel and/or launched them from Lebenon or Syria. Israel is very very small 2-4 times the size of PEI or half the size of Nova Scotia .....2-3 nukes in would take out 100% of the country and if taken by surprise Israel would never have the chance to respond themselves.

Now who is going to nuke them (Iran ) first and will that be the end of the conflict right there ? If not who will respond to Iran's destruction? Russia ? China ? Absolutely no one?

How would it play out on the world stage after 2 nations were just no longer there?

Now the US launches missles across the Atlantic and a few misunderstandings could happen .....what do you think?

warscoob
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How about this my socially challenged friend - stop answering questions you don't like instead of tying to control the questions others ask?

Answer 1

Won't happen. We have had the technology to monitor moving nukes since at least 1978, when we detected them in a USSR submarine submerged in the Med Sea.

Another factor to consider: If USA launches Nuclear from USA, it will likely traverse Canada rather than the Atlantic. But USA has lots of nukes in lots of places, including land and sea based missiles.

You are correct that Israel is a small country, and three small nukes render it completely irrelevant. Where does the fallout and other contamination go? I guess their neighbors get to enjoy that. Damascus Syria, Beirut Lebanon, and Amman Jordan would all be uninhabitable. Iran would be a pariah in the Muslim world for the damage done to those countries and to Egypt and Saudi Arabia.

Prior models strongly indicate that ANY nuclear exchange involving an Islamic state will result in Islamic launched destruction of Riyadh, for having been sympathetic to the West, and for the House of Saud being too worldly, but mostly due to palace intrigue and family struggles for primacy. But it doesn't work, the capital is moved, and the Royal family is largely unscathed, except for some dissidents.

Who on earth would take credit for nuking any country, much less Israel, that due to the proximity effectively wipes out 5 or 6 countries.


Nevertheless, let's play with the idea that it was determined that Iran was responsible. Before we start: 1.3 b Chinese, 1.1 b Indians, 1.2 b Muslims That is more than half the world's population, and China and India have relatively small land masses. Muslims are scattered over a very large area of land.


HOLD ON A FEW MINUTES HERE! I AM RUNNING THE SIMULATIONS ON MY OTHER MACHINES OFFLINE AND WE APPEAR TO HAVE A JOKER HERE.

Preliminary simulations concluded and processed. Pakistan will Nuke Iran. China will provide the weapons to replace those that Pakistan launches with a few extra for profit to Pakistan. Meanwhile, China more than makes up on those few weapons by selling everything they can produce to other countries.

China tells Pakistan they can be the Premier Islamic State by devastating the Shia who are corrupting the religion. Pakistan further attempts to curry favor with the West by accepting responsibility for Iran having nukes, since Pakistan's A Q Khan is responsible for transferring this technology. Pakistan's intermediate goal would be a Tripartite World, with Pakistan, China and USA as the three players, until Pakistan finally led the conquest of the infidels.

China proposes to Pakistan that most of Northern Europe would be allied with the USA, All of Islam would be protected by Pakistan, and most of Asia would be China's, with the exception of the -Stan countries. Pakistan buys into this attractive fantasy, with hopes of securing the entire Indian territory with the assistance of the rest of the Islamic world and Chinese weapons.

Pakistan can offer the FSRs a gateway to the sea, without having to traverse the Bosporus. To do this, they nuke Iran from Kerman to Teheran, along the Zagros mountains, leaving eastern Iran as a corridor around Afghanistan. Looks like it will take between 6 to 7 medium sized nukes. This would further weaken Russia, and comparatively strengthen China.

Before Pakistan was carved out of India, the propaganda that came up with the name was an acronym for some of the ethnicities, that conveniently spelled out a word similar to "Land of the Pure" in Urdu and Fars.

USA is still in Iraq, with a strong force on Sea, Air and Land. And is by no means a neutral bystander. The Zagros protect the areas to the West of Iran from contamination. USA uses their strategic position to secure Saudi Arabia from the results of a low yield nuke detonated by muslim enemies of part of the House of Saud. USA offers sanctuary in Iraq to the remaining Shia, to the consternation but acceptance from the Sunnis.

USA is involved everywhere if this happens before January, but will be more reasoned in their response if the nuke doesn't happen before November elections. Well, reasoned is a strong word.

Mecca and Medina are partitioned, with International forces providing some protection far outside the cities. A coalition of Sunnis led by Saudis provide inner rings of protection for those two cities. Extreme limits will be placed on the Red Sea area near Mecca and Medina.

Now that Teheran is glowing, Russia moves to secure the Caspian, crushing Dagestan and Chechnya. The other Caucasus States strive for independence. The LDP (Vladimir Zhirinovsky's Russian Nazi Party, takes the name from Liberal Democratic Party and indirectly from the Napoleonic-era French LDP) becomes a major force, trebling their numbers from 6 percent to nearly 20 percent. Putin does not respond favorably to LDP. He tried to legislate them out of existence a few years ago because he knew that Hitler's Nazi Party only had 6 percent when Hitler took over Germany. Nevertheless, they effectively suppress Islam in much of European Russia, and develop a following. Putin is forced to use military power to keep their influence in check.

Continental Europe is burning from civil unrest. Cars are overturned, martial law is imposed on most of continental Europe. Neo-Nazis use the event to strengthen their own constituencies also in France, Belgium, and The Netherlands. Spain, Germany and Austria also have some trouble with Neo-Nazis, but the real player is a new party based on the old Habsburg Dynasty, with a nod to the Hohenzollerns. The new Habsburgs are not terribly tolerant of any Nazi group, and prefer a fascist state, which is able to bring protection to Italy.

The Balkans are largely Islamic and spend most of their energies settling old grudges amongst themselves.

Libya wakes up. Khadaffi needs to make a name for himself, and actually offers his services to negotiate a peace. At one moment, one billion people say "WHAT?"

Greeks and Turks do the same thing they have always done in war, make a fortune on facilitating the supply and transport of materials. They are not allied with each other. Both Macedonias are very exciting places.

Neither Pakistan nor India have moved on each other yet. India has 1.1 billion people and nuclear capability, sandwiched between two temporary allies bent on global domination. And India has no intention of being anyone's colony or province ever again.

India is perfectly capable of interdicting any land launched missile from China, or even from the new rail line. They do have sea vulnerabilities, but French and USA do have submarines off the coast of India, and would protect India from China, even though they are there for other reasons.


There it is, but it is later in the simulation. FOR SOME REASON, Pakistan launches on India, with the Chinese replacement weapons, but the weapons fail to leave Pakistan. Pakistan blames China. China says weapons were good, Pakistan didn't launch them correctly. Pakistan complains that they have used their own resources on Iran, and now the Chinese weapons are defective. USA says nothing, but just tries to look innocent.(cue theme from star wars).

India secures Kashmir, and the Oceania Muslims begin to mass in Pakistan. The home of Khan becomes a Shrine, and many make a hajj to venerate the birthplace of the New Islam. This also provides a convenient recruiting station. The School of the Americas, I mean The School of the Muslims, has been conveniently located and operational in nearby Afghanistan since 1996.

With the Nuclear arsenal of Pakistan temporarily out of stock, and the Chinese weapons unreliable, India makes a conventional move into the rest of Pakistan. This is a very bloody conventional war, but even with all the imported warriors, Pakistan is unable to marshal the resources to prevent the Indian Army from retaking the former Indian provinces. India proposes that Pakistan be a protectorate of India. Pakistan declines.

India further warns Burma/Myanmar that China will be taking them over if they ally with China.

China facilitates the aggression by Burma/Myanmar(give me a break, if they can't settle on a name, i certainly can't) on India's eastern border to support their estwhile allies in Pakistan. Burma accepts the aid, but doesn't act, because they would prefer India to survive so that China remains focussed on India.

This predicts a very long term conflict. And large scale nuclear power plants in the USA, built very quickly, mostly in Utah, Arizona and Pennsylvania. Many smaller nuclear power plants in almost every state.

I have left out much due to time constraints, most noticeably, the three segments of Africa and Latin America. They are in the scenario but they wouldn't have a great impact.


This is but one war gaming simulation. Ordinarily, I would work with my resources and a team. We would run dozens of scenarios around the clock, and establish contingency plans for each, simply to understand how to best protect our assets. We would then run Monte Carlo simulations to determine our course in action.

My initial response was something along the following lines.

Setting aside that reality, France would be the most probable country to nuke Iran. Really. France has an undeserved reputation, but much of the "Israeli actions" are in fact conducted by the French, who simply have no need to take credit for it when they can receive the monetary rewards.

Spain and Russia are the next two candidates to launch on Iran in your scenario. The French would be motivated by profit motive, Spanish and Russians more on motives of principle, and a long-lived disdain for Islam.

USA uses its presence in Iraq, Afghanistan and other locations to attempt to facilitate global stability, ie., USA remaining the dominant force in the world, presuming USA effectively uses its resources.

China launches on India, India intercepts and retaliates vigorously. Pakistan attempts to launch on India, but the missiles don't leave Pakistani territory. India does not respond with nukes, and uses conventional forces to subdue Pakistan.


What happens, is the worlds major powers decide to divide up the former Islamic lands.


The first scenario was constructed with war gaming simulation software. The second was intuitive based on prior research.



This finally concludes my portion of this exercise.

It's been interesting, challenging and invigorating.

Answer 2

if Israel knows that a nuke is about to hit them then they will nuke back. Israel has one of the best radar system in the world. I think Iran has nukes already because Iran officals were there on July 5 in North KOrea to watch the missile test. Russia and China will not nuke anyone. The US does not need to launch across the Atlantic they have ships that are equiped with nukes. Watch for AUgust 22 IRan is going to give an answer about their nuclear program so they could nuke Israel on this day. I really do not think any country would be dumb enough to nuke.

Answer 3

Nuclear proliferation followed by an attack upon any other nation is something the world would never tolerate.

I doubt Russia would stand by after such a devastating attack. What would stop Iran from becoming a feared nation throughout the world..?

The question is not who would attack Iran after launching such an attack against Israel. The question would be, who would stand by, thinking they may be next.

A joint military operation would be in order by all nations against any nation who would launch a nuclear attack against any other nation.

Iran is a major player in the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. It is Iran who is supplying the insurgents. It is Iran who is funding the insurgents with manpower and training camps for the insurgents.

A showdown with Iran may be inevitable between Iran and neighboring Arab states/Russia. And, the sooner the better.

Answer 4

Chaos

the end of the world

More news at 1:00 to night.

Answer 5

But wait... What if Canada suprised us all & launched a full scale attack on the Maldive Islands. Do you think that any surviving Maldivians would retaliate and form a strong coalition force with Kenya & Uganda. I heard that they have Super nukes with 100 times more Uranium than we have. Maybe they would form the new world council and call it ... Kenandaives...

All of us who survived the fallout we then be called Kenandavians...

What about that scenario???

What about this Idea!!!

I think you should stop thinking of this kinda stupid stuff and write movies for a living...

Answer 6

Well the US could respond with submarine launched Polaris missiles and render The entire Iranian countryside uninhabitable for the next 3000 years in about 20 minutes. And I think Iran is aware of this, or at least they should be.
And I wouldn't be surprised if Israel has more retaliatory capability than we think. The towel heads had better think long and hard about the consequences of their actions before they try something so rash.

Answer 7

and that's why Muslims are not terrorist, because Iran can so easily wipe out Israel off the map and WW III will most likely begin.

...and also Iran doesn't need nukes to destroy Israel, to hit Israel where nukes are produced is enough.

Answer 8

If Iran decides to attack Israel from the rear, I think Greece might help.




pun intended

Answer 9

israel has contingency plans in case something like this happens

but if it ever does, which it won't, you can expect everyone in the world digging out their own nukes, from george bush to my irritating neighbours chirrping parrot, to send them down the iranian's throats

Answer 10

I think it's better to forget these rumors, and stop making scenario for the thing that never will happen!!!!! We want peace in the world and Iran is not a country who tries to make people
worried, it a rumor made by governments who have such strange imagines in their mind! We can not accept Israel, since they are just savages, and they just know how to kill or annoy Muslims. But we never do such stupid thing!!!!!!!!

Answer 11

Iran would not do that, but hypothetically, I guess America would then not nuke Iran, they need the oil. So they would use it as an excuse to invade as they did in Iraq.