whereas he himself prayed to God, neither is he his son cause God is not human form....i guess christians think this way cause they have been mordenazing bible as par need...???....or maybe jews really messed around with em big time since beginning. they really killed him too..
2006-08-14 08:29:08 · 13 answers · asked by Anonymous in Arts & Humanities ➔ History
Pick up "Misquoting Jesus" by Bart D. Ehrman. Or google it and read the synopsis.
2006-08-14 08:57:52 · answer #1 · answered by Sick Puppy 7 · 0⤊ 2⤋
You are correct that he prayed to God, his Father. How do we know this? From the very same Bible texts that do things like the following:
1) Use divine names for him, including:
"God" (John 1:1, Col 1, for example)
"Lord" (in passages quoted directly from the Old Testament in reference to the God of Israel!)
"The First and the Last" (in Isaiah of the Lord God, in Revelation of Jesus)
2) Unite his name as "Son" with "Father" and "Spirit" as ONE name -- in benedictions and blessings
3) Show him doing things Scripture has only God doing (including creating ['without him nothing was made that has been made'], forgiving sins, "rebuking the wind and waves")
4) Tell of people WORSHIPING him, and his accepting it (esp. in the book of Revelation where the hosts of heaven and earth give all "glory, honor....." to "him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb that was slain", and the Father's command in Hebrews 1 -- "let all the angels worship him")
No, this is NOT a "modern" idea. In fact the modernists in the churches are the ones who try to say that Jesus is NOT God. Historic Christianity follows the New Testament texts like those mentioned above (and we have copies from the second century so these are NOT 'modernizing' changes!) in teaching that he is fully God as well as fully man.
By the way, the last part --his becoming incarnate as a man-- explains why he prays to the Father.
You don't need to agree with it, but let's at least be clear that this IS what the New Testament teaches.
(By the way, I see that EFW has bought into Dan Brown's teaching. Unfortunately, Brown is no scholar and is history is all wrong. The councils he mentions did NOT choose a divine Jesus over a mortal one. Rather, ALL the participants already agreed that he was divine. There was just some debate about best to understand and describe this fact. And these councils did not even discuss "which gospels" to use. That too was already settled. And Brown & co. don't even have straight what the Gnostics taught!)
2006-08-16 06:51:41 · answer #2 · answered by bruhaha 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
In christian dogma there is the Holly Trinity. 3 persons that although different from one another are part of the unity of God.
They are :
-The Father
- The Son
- The Holly Spirit
This is not polytheism because the 3 persons are part of only one God. Christians are not wrong to call Jesus God, as long as they do not deny the other 2 persons of God.
2006-08-14 08:43:55 · answer #3 · answered by Lumas 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
What you mean is why do some Christians believe in 'The Trinity'. That is what you're referencing....the teaching that Jesus is The Father, The Son and The Holy spirit unified in ONE body.
Not all Christians believe this teaching. There are still many who believe that Jesus and God are not a unified body but instead God is The One and Only God and Jesus is God's son in a different entity.
2006-08-14 08:37:48 · answer #4 · answered by The First Lady 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Wha? Well, I don't think he was "literally" the Son of God...indeed, I find the notion silly even as a Christian. He was just a brilliant man who got lucky and reached the right people with his message. And naturally he would pray...he believed he was fated to die brutally at the hands of Romans...wouldn't you beg to be spared being crucified too? Though it should be said the Gnostics believed it a favor(and thus glorified Judas) because it freed the divine from the mortal confines of the flesh. Eh...I'm not even sure what I'm saying...
2006-08-14 09:49:06 · answer #5 · answered by Elminster 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
God is God, and Jesus is the route to get to God. Jesus is the mortal embodiment of the Archangel Michael. It was Michael's final bestowel (or trial) to live on Earth as a man in order to gain the status of Creator Son. In human form, Michael was called Y'shua (or, Joshua) ben Joseph. The Romans called him Jesus.
2006-08-14 14:43:19 · answer #6 · answered by brainzrgood4u 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Read the bible! He is God's son! how else would we have God-like powers on this non-supernatural earth? plus, how was he born of a VIRGIN woman? explain that!!! Just remember Jesus didn't really "pray" to God he was actually conversing with his father of the happenings of the day. PS how else did Jeesus raise from the dead after he was beaten, starved, and bled to death? Can you resurrect if you went through that? plus, REMEBER THE TRINITY!!!!!!!!
2006-08-14 08:38:16 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
Just because Jesus prayed to God, doesn't mean he isn't part of the trinity. And God can take whatever form he wants to......He's God.
2006-08-14 08:35:19 · answer #8 · answered by Lilah 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Because of the 1st or 2nd Ecunemical Council said so, they tossed the gnostic gospels that described jesus as mortal and kept the supernatural ones....it's been handed down in that tradition ever since.
2006-08-14 09:33:36 · answer #9 · answered by Its not me Its u 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Huh? You are rambling. And it's modernizing. No God, it's all made-up nonsense. Christians are a pain, and so are all religious people.
2006-08-14 08:34:11 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋