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because they diss homos, i lost a LOT of respect for catholic church. and they are supposed to love everyone. they want peace and happiness but yet they cant marry same sex couples, how can they maintain this "peace and happiness" if they wont allow people to marry whom they choose, whom they love in a church?

2006-08-13 14:24:57 · 113 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

wen i said christians and catholics i didnt mean the WHOLE christian community im srry if i offended sum of u. i do no many catholics who support gays or they may not support it but they dont care what other people do with their lives

2006-08-13 14:35:21 · update #1

also most homos dont choose this particular lifestyle they are born with it. in their eyes they see much differently than str8 people do. str8 people will never understand how it is to be a homosexual because they will never go through it. i no this for a fact because i for one am gay. i also went to catholic school for 10 years so im pretty aware of what the bible states.

2006-08-13 15:00:11 · update #2

113 answers

Hateful people will always find someone to hate, and will always seek to use religion to justify it.

2006-08-13 14:27:23 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 9 2

I am Catholic and I think many people misunderstand what we believe. You should hate the sin. Love the sinner.

The Catholic faith is very out front and to the point. We do not believe in homosexuality because it is a sin. That is what we believe - no ifs ands or buts. The reason the church does not allow for this is NOT because we "hate" homosexuals, it's because the actions of gay people is a sin.

I think as humans, if we are passionate about something we believe in, we tend to get defensive if someone disagrees with our opinions. Maybe that is why you get so much static when talking with people who strongly believe that marriage is an institution and a sacrament who is only to be shared between a man and a women.

2006-08-21 14:16:55 · answer #2 · answered by LNZ 3 · 0 0

Whoa, I don't get in on the gay argument much. It is one thing to "dis" or disrespect a human being, and that is wrong, and yes people who call themselves Christians sometimes do it. That is a sin. But it is also a sin to not live truth, and when the Bible calls homosexuality a sin, if a church were to marry them, that would not be a Bible-believing church. That would be a different type of church -- a pagan church.

I believe homosexuals are worthy of my respect and love, regardless of the decision they make. However, I would never, EVER condone a "marriage" between two of them performed by my pastor in my church, because that would be my church (the body of Christ) taking part in something that is evil (the Bible calls it an abomination).

We're not trying to gain the respect of non-Christians or maintain some sort of peace and happiness. We (I'm Christian, not Catholic) are in the business of spreading the gospel of truth. We would no more have a homosexual wedding in our church than we'd have a sex sacrifice to a false god. If they want governmental rights, take it up with the government. It's a free country. Use the ballot box. But pastors of God's truth will not be taking part in this sin.

2006-08-13 14:32:36 · answer #3 · answered by ©2007 answers by missy 4 · 2 1

It is not the plan of God Almighty for anyone to live as a homosexual acting out sexual acts between the same genders. Yet many people have this affliction, be it they think they was born this way or they have chosen this way of life. Homosexuality is a sin, and all sin is not in the plan of God Almighty. Yes it is a sin to not love your neighbor as you love your self. This is also very high on the list of things that is not in the plan of God Almighty because many people do not practice loving their neighbor as them selves rather they believe they were born this way or they chose to be this way.

We say that it is good to love your neighbor as you love yourself, and if you do not love homosexuality then you would not love the homosexuality in the neighbor. This does not mean you do not love the person, but the act. So the question you may ask then could be "What is it one should do if they have a neighbor that practices homosexuality?"

We should say we do not love the homosexuality, but if you are my neighbor I shall love you, and if I have offended you by telling you this then I am sorry for doing the will of God Almighty, which is not the case. Because I love doing the will of God Almighty and His will is the will I want for me, and you as well.

Now if the person responds by saying," God Almighty loves sinners as well as those that have no sin." You could say , "Yes that is true, and that would mean that you are trying to change in the way all sinners do." They may look at you and suggest that they feel they do not need a change. You could then say," By the blood of Jesus Christ we all shall be changed once we have Him as our Saviour. This will be the way one changes, it may seem that it is a slow process, it may even seem it could never happen, but believe me, a person saved by the grace of God Almighty through the blood of Jesus Christ will be changed. Changed so that person will do the will of God Almighty as they would want to do the will of God Almighty."

One may change faster than another. It is like the parable of when a man offered a job for a certain amount of money. Some were upset after the end of the day when those that started in the beginning got payed the same as those that got payed same for only working some of the day. The man paid them all the same.

2006-08-20 08:16:41 · answer #4 · answered by ishelp4 3 · 0 0

In you question and description you state you lost a lot of respect for the Catholic church. Then in you additional information you say you don't mean all Catholics. There certainly is a difference between the church hierarchy and the Catholic people. I was raised a Catholic and finally, after 32 years, left the church because I could no longer swallow the hypocrisies of the leaders of the church.

As for homosexuals. I try to love everyone. I don't always succeed. Please remember that we are all sinners and fall short of what God wants us to be.

Marriage was instituted by God to be between a man and a woman, for the purpose of having children and forming a basis for a family. 2 men or 2 women cannot be married. They cannot procreate (have children). If states want to recognize the relationship and give them certain rights (ex: inheritance, health insurance) that's fine, but they cannot be married. Doesn't mean we don't love them. God will judge them, as He will judge us all, for our sins.

2006-08-13 15:15:14 · answer #5 · answered by celticwoman777 6 · 0 0

Jesus said love they neighbor. Remember in the old testament it talks about the jealous, vengeful God. New testament was trying to make Christians be good to one and other, unfortunately, people like to use what ever part of the bible fit their need for that time. And many misinterpretations have and are taking place. Some times you have to make yourself happy by being the better person and over looking others shortcomings. Be patient, remember the Catholic Church burnt a monk at the stake for saying the Earth revolved around the sun.

2006-08-13 14:35:06 · answer #6 · answered by PK 1 · 0 0

There are a number of ways to answer this question. Not one is totally correct because there are many reasons for what you see.

Let me start by stating that I am not Catholic. I am Christian but don't claim any specific denomination. The theological response to your question would go something like this:

First, we must define what is meant by "love". The New Testament (the part of the Bible that states "love your enemies") was written in Koine Greek. This language was very precise. In the New Testament, there are two different words that were translated as love. The problem is that "love" doesn't accurately convey the intending meanings based upon the actual words used.

One word that is translated "love" is the word "phileo". The other word is "agape". Both words do mean love, but they speak of a different quality of love, not quantity.

Phileo speaks of a love that is based on familiarity. It is a love that grows hot and grows cold based upon how a person feels toward the one loved. It is more a feeling than anything else.

Agape, on the other hand, is not a feeling. It is not based on familiarity. It is a choice. It is a decision to do what is best for the one loved reguardless of how it will affect you. It is completely selfless. This love is always other-focused.

The word used in the verse you mentioned is agape. Why, then, do some Christians and Catholics "diss homosexuals"? This is a very good question!

On one level, it is because of immatureity of the Christian. On another level, it is out of agape for the homosexual. The immature Christian has trouble "seperating the sin from the sinner". We attack the sinner when we should be attacking the sin. We don't like to admit it, but the sin of homosexuality is no greater than the sin of lying, adultery, speeding, murder, gosipping or any other sin that, yes, we Christians, are involved in. We like to think that we are, somehow, better. But, we aren't. There might even be some fear that, if we acknowlede this, we will look bad. (We fail to realize that we already look bad!)

The other reason that Christains might appear to "diss" homosexuals is out of agape. The Bible does clearly teach that homosexuality is a sin. It seems to be most clear in the Geneva Bible. 1Co 6:9,10 says, "Knowe yee not that the vnrighteous shall not inherite the kingdome of God? Be not deceiued: neither fornicatours, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor wantons, nor buggerers, Nor theeues, nor couetous, nor drunkards, nor railers, nor extortioners shall inherite the kingdome of God." The word "buggerers" is an old word for homosexual. In the King James, the same verses say, "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God." Here, we have a gentler way of expressing it, "abusers of themselves with mankind." Remember, however, that I have already pointed out that this sin is not special. It is not worse than any other sin.

So, how can a Christian "diss" a homosexual out of agape? How can a pastor refuse to marry same-sex couples out of agape? The Bible tells us that every Christian has the responsibility to show the world its need for Jesus. This is supposed to be done out of agape. To appear to endorse an act of sin (no matter what that act is) would not be an act of agape. It might be an act of phileo, but we are called to love our neighbors with the greater love, agape. To do this, we are willing to risk ridicule and hatred.

We, humans, have a difficult time understanding how to "seperate the sin from the sinner". It is hard to live a life that is accepting of the person but not condoning of the lifestyle. I am sure that many who read this will immediately think, "hypocrites". And, in some cases, that would be a correct assessment. However, in most cases (I hope) the truth of the matter is that we simply do not have the mind of Jesus. We simply cannot comprehend how to appropriately love these people and yet not condone their lifestyle.

2006-08-13 15:29:00 · answer #7 · answered by Terry K 3 · 0 0

Catholics do not diss homosexuals. Where did you get that from? They are treated the same as anyone else, with respect and love due a human being. Catholics just do not agree with their lifestyle. It's a simple as that. Catholics believe that a practicing homosexual is living in sin. A heterosexual can also be living in sin based on their life style.

2006-08-21 07:37:19 · answer #8 · answered by John S 1 · 0 0

It's not only the Catholics but other religions as well. I've seen some where the wife is a raging alcoholic and the husband is abusive, yet they go to church every Sunday and put on a good show. She can be in a bar Saturday night and in church on Sunday. I call them all hypocrites. No matter what religion they are. The Christian religion refused to baptize a friend of mine since she was gay. Like that's not against the word of God.

2006-08-13 14:34:58 · answer #9 · answered by windandwater 6 · 1 1

I am a Christian, and I don't "dis" homosexuals. I do however "dis"agree with homosexuality. We are suppose to love the sinner, not condone the sin. The Bible says that God abhors homosexuality. One verse that says it is a sin is 1 Corinthians 6:9-11. I won't quote it all. "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulters...nor homosexual offenders .... nor drunkards nor slanderers...will inherit the kingdom of God." (It goes on to say that he is talking about not continuing on in the sin. Some had been, but had been forgiven.)
I agree with you on one thing though, a lot of "Christians" don't even try to "walk as Jesus walked" (1 John ) which was with compassion and forgiveness for the sinner. (However, He did say to them, "Now, go and sin no more..." But then, there are those who do try, and still screw up...Forgive??

2006-08-13 14:45:12 · answer #10 · answered by savannah 3 · 0 0

Haven't figured that one out yet myself! Keep asking too!

A lot of Christains will probalby say the do love them, but the are still an abomination. Of course Fornicators (heteros having sex) are an abomination as are people who keep the company of Fornicators. So are people who get divorced for reasons other than adultery. All of them are supposed to be taken to the gates of the city and stoned.

As for Churches, they can choose not to marry anyone for any reason. A protestant generally can't marry a Catholic in a Catholic Church, at least not a formal Priest wedding.

2006-08-13 14:31:11 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

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