Harsh lessons that could save lives?

Question

I remeber an episode of old cop series Cagney and Lacey were one once walked in to find her teenage son had found her gun and pointed at a mate thinking it was unloaded...

After geting him to put it down gently, at the end of the show you see her get a call and she takes her son to the hospit to see a gunshot victem broaght in possibly an accidence like he could have caused... it did not say. A nasty one with the doctors trying to patch him up and made him watch, the kids turns around horrified but the mum turns his head around to make him watch...

I presume such a thing would cause nightmares but would make sure the kid understood what guns were about and never to play with them or see them as cool again. But an ugly horrible thing that does really horrible damage to someone and only to be used if necessary to protect others or say put someone down in a burning car.

Far more effective then grounding, caning, etc

How many of you would do things like that... more comming

Say bring them in to a hospital where a rape victem has been broght in who took a dodgy cab,

Burns wards ideally when some pretty girl come sin screaming horrically burned.

Victems of horrific road accidents or better still get them to the accident to make them see the mangled car with the person dead or alive trapped inside.

To prevent dodgy , drink driving or joyriding

Make them see someone going through cold turkey and the street hookers.

Watch the series human traffic at a young age...

Make them do first aid on a dumy covered in puke which is exactley what they would ahve to do if mates were siffing tippex and collapsed choking on own vomit...

In fact CPR is often not on a nice clean body but bloody one and often when you drown you yack in the mouth of the one giving you cpr...

None of these are simply to abuse but with love to prevent hopefully you kid being the one being observed and to help them handle accidents and do first aid on others...

How many parents would adopt that policy as opposed to grounding, detentions, hitting the kid etc...

As said it can't be video with the exception of the 'Human Trafficing' series were nieve girls going to a modelling contest going abroad ending up rape slaves...

ie real world lessons... harsh but to crystal clear teach why certain things should not be done and the gravity on the consequences of doing them?

should this be policy?

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You can't protect kids from these horrors they are likely to come accross them...

How does fine upstanding upbringing enable kids to handle first aid that innreality is likly to be horrific.

Likewise much of these thing ie playing with a gun or matches is not meant to cause harm its accidents that happen...

As for too much dope... dope heads often end up doing nothing with their lives... show the alterntive plus off the effects of smoking anything, ie lung tranplants

Answer 1

Reality is a better teacher. I gave, not exactly as you have described, both my sons reality checks. The oldest wanted to consider himself a little thug at one point, around age 15. A group of his friends stole property from a man's yard. He was not with them, but found out about it within a few hours and did nothing. I had a close family member with the Sheriff's department pretend to arrest him with the other little thugs. He was placed in a cell with a hand picked very large and scary looking man who would not hurt a fly. My son spent a few hours very worried and spoke of Mr. Eight Chins for months. He was no further trouble and avoided those friends. He is now grown with his own family, reality worked for him.
The youngest wanted to complain about what he wanted rather than be grateful for the things he had. He became very obnoxious about the whole matter. He spent a summer, around age 16, volunteering three days a week at a soup kitchen and homeless shelter. Before that summer was half over, he had a whole new outlook on gratefulness. Worked better than taking his car keys had ever worked.

Answer 2

What happened to St johns ambulance?

The weekly clubs that kids to enrol onto to learn first aid training was a 'cool' thing back in the 80's. The under 10s used to be called 'badgers'. You would get a certificate if you passed things like cpr and recovery positions.

Children army camps used to offer these type of skills too. Just like scouts and brownies.

My community used to be filled with these types of clubs for the kids and now i'm older the nearest one is 15 miles away in the city. Pathetic.

DIB DIB DIB.

Answer 3

You really need to join a chat room, or keep a journal. Too long - too too long and gad you have something to say about everything.
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No, I don't believe that the original scenario you stated would be good for a young child. As parents it is our job to be sure guns are locked away, matches are in safe places and a parent or care-giver is home at all times to guide and support kids once they come home from school.

Answer 4

i don't think you would have to show kids that nowadays there's too much of it on tv anyway. if you raise your child to respect you then they will accept it when you tell them right from wrong. my mum always discussed things like smoking and violence and so i was made aware of all the facts, and could make my own mind up, but at the same time i didn't have to witness such horrors. childrens minds should be kept sweet and innocent for as long as possible!

Answer 5

Yes it may help but also in the process damage a child's mind we need not to go to such extremes to get them to understand. Kids these days are smarter then we give them credit. That can cause them to replay that over and over in there minds and Hate you forever. Cause you have caused them to see something so horrid. You need to watch how and what we do to them.Because they are so impressionable. Need to think whats better for them in the long run. Rather talk it out with them . Then torture them with very bad memories.

Answer 6

As a parent, I wouldn't subject my children to such morbidity. Yes, the things that you've described are part of reality but I choose to protect and show my children the brighter side of life than to force them see such brutality.

If you were to let a young child see such horrors and see the brutality of what mindless people had done, our children will think that evil has taken over and that we are merely 'victims' and have no power to make life our lives better. NO matter how hard you explain whilst showing them such brutality so that they will 'learn', the things that they're seeing are very graphic and it will play in their minds for a long, long time. This will cause our kids to have nightmares and will somehow affect them emotinally and psychologically.

Let us also draw the line here. As I said, I wouldn't subject my children to see such 'brutality' (referring to crimes and other violence) but would rather let my children see the hardships or misery of what other people are experiencing (minus the blood & the horror) like- impoverished families in the third world, homeless people, aging folks, abandoned children, malnourished children, etc. If we take that step further up to educate and teach our children that they can 'do' something to help alleviate poverty & misery, then that is the right thing to do so they'll learn to be compassionate towards other people who are not as fortunate as they are and would somehow create in them that there is hope for these people.

When it comes to teaching and disciplining our children, 'love' should always be there. We are in no position as parents to subject our kids to see such morbidity or brutality- that will only send a different message to them. As parents, we are teaching our kids to be upright and to create 'fear' in them is not part of it. Children in the end should still have their confidence and their birght perception towards the world. To purposedly let them see such graphic display of violent events is just too much for them to bear.

Answer 7

hi these are harsh lesson maybe if they were old enough and mentally mature enough. you have to be very careful when you are a parent. Do you have children? My mum and dad made me smoke a packet of fags when i was about 10 and i tried it and got caught anyway since than i haven't smoked a ***. But both of my sisters do and parents. So hopefully my children won't want to as my hubby doesn't smoke either. It all depends on the situation.

Answer 8

Well you also must think of the victims you are taking them to see. If your child was killed for instance by a drunk driver would you want random people (not hospital staff) looking at her/his dead body?

My dad was killed by a drunk driver and I most defiantly would not want that. A friend of mines daughter died as a result of drunk driving and she fought in court to make it so there must be family approval to show pictures in trainings etc...

I speak at victim impact panels about drunk driving telling my story about my dad and I think it is very affective as well with out all the gore. Then they are meeting a person who has actually experienced tragedy and seeing it thru their eyes.

Answer 9

No. Absolutely not. We need to protect our children from such horrors, not subject them to them.

I've seen enough horror in my life to know not to inflict it on others. If we're raised in a morally upstanding way, there's no need for the freak show.

Answer 10

depends on the child - could end up muttering in a corner for the rest of its life.