Should we fight back against being a nanny state?

Question

Are there too many do-gooders in our society. Are they contributing indirectly to the social problems we face?

Answer 1

Yes we should fight back but you know what - we never will. We are all just pawns in the system and the system teaches us to comply with what it says is right for us.

We live in a nanny state no doubt about it and our human values have been grossly affected by it. The PC crowd decree this and that but it is shallow beyond belief.

We live in a paranoid society not helped by other problems from outside and yes big brother is watching you but only so that you will comply with what the system decrees not necessarily what is right for you as a person in the end. And this applies to all systems - you either fit in or or bog off.

As for arguments about professional healthcare and the great systems in place - try getting your GP to treat you for anything these days and you will find you are referred to specialist treatment with a waiting list - and thats to get on the waiting list.

Why? Because the system says thats the way to do it these days and if thats a problem to you too bad.

Society has been hardened to professionalism which in itself may be intellectually correct but allows no flexibility for caring within the diverse context of a human being.

Get a degree for this or that and then practice as the expert. Ultimate goal - make money and dont get sued.

So PAH for the nanny state and its systems. Human beings need leeway to make their own mistakes and systems that allow for this - not chip and pin sewn into their foreheads or do gooders who are so inflexible and self righteous to see that in their drive to catagorise everyone they are washing away our individuality hence ultimately destroying the society they claim to protect in the first place.

How do I get to that Island?

Answer 2

Not really, them problem is our government !

The Elite manipulate all of us ...

They are the Illuminatis, and they own you,
This is the New World Order, and it is your future if the world don't wake up :

And this is what Bush’s minions had to say in 2000;-
"Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor"
Project for the New American Century (2000)

“Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”
Hermann Göring(Nazi) 1946 Nuremberg Trials

"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order."
David Rockefeller: Statement to the Untied Nations Business Council in September 1994

"For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with other around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that is the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." David Rockefellers memoirs (2002)

Answer 3

The do-gooders have removed all authority from parents and teachers - the main sources of discipline in our children. It has become cruel to smack an unruly child who refuses to do what they are told. They tell us that bullies really have low self esteem - oh my god! Pupils can run riot if that is what they want to do and teachers are completely powerless to appropriately punish them. The police were always a bit hard, but a clip round the ear and dragged home to your mother was a fate worse than death so most decent kids behaved themselves. Because of do-gooders, a child that gets a bolloking off a teacher runs home, tells mum, mum heads up to school and screams at teacher how dare they speak to my darling child who does no wrong.
Bring back the stocks, the belt and the cat o nine tails. That will sort it!

Answer 4

Seeing as though i think im the only Lefty answerign this...

Their is no 'Nanny State' folks, get over it. The idea of Spongers is largely played up by the right-wing media, many of the people on benefit need it to survive until they can find a job. Yes, i agree, somethings have gone to far, but to say we live under a nanny state is laughable friend.

Do you believe that a health service, made up of professionals who have been trained for many years, tell you what to do is against your interest?

Do you believe an educational board, versed in the management of Schools and Educational attributes in their area, is wrong to not let parents choose their own schools?



Frankly people, the public has neither the time nor expertise to make the right decisions in every aspect of life. I would personally rather have a nation of people who care for each other, rather then a Thatcherite Hell of Dog eat Dog competition.

Our country has never been 'Great'. Our wealth is born from the spoils of Empire, our corporations run roughshod over third world countries and London dictates to the rest of the nation.

I believe in Scottish and Welsh devolution, an English Parliament and full reigonal devolution to the counties.

Answer 5

I think there are three main issues with the nanny state firstly yes if a person is incapable of looking after themselves the state should step in and take care of that person providing it is shown that this person is truly in need i.e the benefits system and on that count I think most people would agree.
Secondly there is the massive injustice of the no win no fee culture causing nightmares for people in all walks of life. We know that the smallest mistake by anyone causing the slightest inconvenience to a third party can end up costing thousands of pounds giving the dishonest among us free reign to line their pockets.
Thirdly there is the army of little Hitlers with clipboards bringing everything to a halt with their new regulations for everything we do. If I decide to fit a new light in my bathroom or a new window in my kitchen I should be the one who decides whether or not I am capable of the task as has always been the case in past years. I understand that in theory these rules are designed to stop incompetents being a danger to themselves and others but in fact it puts the cost of a relatively inexpensive job so high that you cannot afford to do it meaning you end up living with possibly something more dangerous or inefficient.
Its time we all stood up to these demons in our society and push them back to where they came from, that is doing the jobs they were trained to do and not so called policing the rest of us.

Answer 6

I agree,
Yes they are adding to our social problems, and for the life of me I can't think of a solution. As a family that work, pay our taxes, don't receive or expect state handouts and try to raise our kids as decent human beings, we're being screwed at every turn
So in the words of a great song "it's time to sacrifice tradition and save your family"
Which means in my case means leaving this country as soon as possible.
By the time they realise a "one size fits all"society model doesn't work it will be way to late.

Answer 7

I hate the thought of the authoraties having information on me. It violates privacy.
They also say that Mother Theresa, although saint-like, indirectly contributed to social problems, because the authoraties wouldn't buck their ideas up and sort out the problem of homelessness and famine. They left it to her..

Answer 8

I would say so. There are a great many in the population who feel they are entitled. That is not what the programs are for, they should be only for those in need. I liken it to creating a new generation of slaves, only the master is the government. Not a good thing.

Answer 9

You cant hide and you cant run.
The goverment is full of discourage and too many do-gooders (nannycrats)
I suggest you join me on an island in the pacific.Thats what i am honestly doing to escape the UK socity will have on me and my future family.

Answer 10

I think that we will always need entitlement programs for those that are incapable for caring for themselves. Charitable acts serve to enrich. It is up to the recipients of the charitable acts to behave with integrity and do their best not to require charity, for example, as a means of support.