Murderers or hero's?

Question

Were the people who killed Jesus murderers or hero's? They said he so-called gave his life so that through him you may enter heaven. I really don't understand that terminology because he did hide for a certain amount of years because they were trying to kill him. God Bless.

Answer 1

Jesus never died, since he will hav a 2nd return. two he was hiding so that he could preach enough to spread the words of God, not for selfish purposes.....

Answer 2

Christ did not "hide" but was carrying on "very important work that had to be carried out BEFORE he could die." That is, his preaching work of starting his new religion and replacing the Jews and Israelites with "Spiritual Jews and Spiritual Israelites." This started happening at Pentecost, (Acts, Ch. 5) with the speaking of NEW LANGUAGES so that the Good News of the Kingdom could now be spread to the Gentile Nations and Jews and Gentiles could both be brought into his fold. Before Pentecost, only Jews made up "Christianity," however, with not enough Jews to fill out the ROLL so to speak, all mankind now benefited by Christs sacrifice as intended. The world was now "saved" or at least "could be, if it chose."

The prophecy where Judas had betrayed Jesus had come true and those Jewish leaders that betrayed Christ paid that night when the Most Holy of the Temple in Jerusalem was RIPPED OPEN and the Ark of the Covenant disappeared. So, no longer was God's presence in the Most Holy, a place that ONLY ONE MAN COULD ENTER and then only ONCE A YEAR. The Ark of the Covenant, his symbol with Israel was also gone, showing he had abandoned them.

Forty something years later, Rome tore the entire Temple down in around 76 A.D., block by block as Christ predicted, leaving only the Wailing Wall. This destroyed ALL genealogies of the Jews, no longer would anyone know what tribe they were from. Even to this day, no Jew knows which tribe he is from originally, as Christ did.

Answer 3

The people were neither hero's or murderers really. He got away from his would be killers before, because he said his time was not right. Everything has a time and purpose that Jesus did.

Answer 4

Abhi, you're so totally wrong. A person is only a murderer if they ILLEGALLY kill someone. So the slayers of Jesus were not murderers, and may not have been heroes either. They were executioners, which is a job that society has picked out for them, and is perfectly legitimate.

Answer 5

I don't know who gave you the idea that Jesus hid for a certain number of years because people were trying to kill him. That idea does not square with his ministry on earth. He began his ministry at about the age of 30 and carried on that ministry for about three years before he was put to death on the cross.

I think your confusion about murderers and heroes comes because you have to look at his death from two points of view.

The pharisees would not believe that Jesus was the Saviour, and they condemned him under their Jewish law for his saying that he, Jesus, was the Son of God, and therefore was God.
They took him to the Romans and demanded of the governor,
Pontius Pilate, that he be crucified. Pilate could find no fault in him and tried to free him, but the Pharisaical leaders insisted that Jesus had called himself "King of the Jews", which put Pilate in the position of not being able to let him go. The reason for this is that Caesar was Emperor of the whole area and if Pilate had let him go the Pharisees would have made sure the version Caesar heard would have meant punishment for Pilate.
So, Christ was crucified, an innocent man, guilty of no sin, crucified by the Roman government, who alone had that power, and crucified at the instigation of the Jewish religious leaders, who had to manipulate the power of Rome to accomplish what they wanted. So from this standpoint of human history, Jesus was murdered by these men---both Roman and Jewish leaders.

Were there plenty of Jewish people unhappy about it and many of the Romans and peoples of other nations unhappy about it?
You betya. So I am trying to say here that this is not in any way shape or form a justification for hating Jews, which has happened throughout history.

But the story has another standpoint. And that standpoint is God's. Because all men are sinners and because sin required punishment--the life of the sinner--Jesus, God, and the Son of God, came to earth as a man in order to die on the cross to pay the penalty for the sin of the world. The hero in the story is God: Jesus was both man and God. That this was God's purpose, to save sinners from their sin through his own death does not absolve or make heroes of those who precipitated and carried out his death. But it does mean that through His Son, Jesus Christ, God calls sinners to repentance to serve the living God.

After his death, he rose on the third day, and was seen by many people (hundreds says the record). He stayed on earth awhile to teach his disciples more and then he ascended into heaven.
His resurrection and his ascension proved the power of his act of grace in dying for our sins. And the good book says that He will come again...and until then the work of His Spirit is to convince the world of sin and of godly righteousness of the eternal judgment to come. Christ is more than a hero--he is Saviour and King.

Answer 6

Jesus never hid, he travelled spreading His Word, when the Romans came for Him, Jesus went willingly, and even healed one of the centaurions who's ear got cut off by one of Jesus's apostles. No one murdered Jesus, God sacrificed His only Son.

Answer 7

They were not murderers - that is an illegal act. The soldiers at the time were acting within the law. Crucifixion was the punishment for many crimes; though it was not always taken to the point of death.

He didn't "give" his life - he made it clear before he died that he believed this was god's plan for him - so he would have viewed it that god took it.

The concept of him 'giving' his life is born of modern theology, which sought to simplify concepts for church-goers.

Answer 8

anyone who kills anyone is a murderer, regardless of teh result, may that be hitler or the pope.


re: tomu

yah technically the romans that executed jesus and the deciples were executioners, but monniker asked a opinion based question and my defination of a murderer is when a human bieng directly/indirectly kills another, for any reason what so ever.

Answer 9

They sould be considered murderer's even though the church/religion doesn't agree, but what's worth it? Getting made to look like an A**, or an Immoral ******? I don't know....

Answer 10

It is morally reprehensible for anyone to claim to die 'for' you or to do anything to accept responsibility for your wrongs. You, and you alone are responsible for what you do that is wrong, and for keeping those lines of responsibility clear.

If Jesus died, he died because it was his time to go, or because he pissed off the wrong people, or for whatever reason, he died. But it has nothing to do with you. Millions of people have died already, and everyone who is alive today, I can confidently state, will die someday. None of them can lay a guilt trip on anyone over why they're going to or did die.

Dying is an inescapable part of life.