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2006-08-11 17:10:27 · 21 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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This is debatable. Those who disapprove of homosexuality say that Jonathan and David were the best of friends. Those who are proponents of homosexuality say that they were. Based upon the language the Bible is written in, it is a tricky issue.

2006-08-11 17:14:48 · answer #1 · answered by E Y 3 · 0 0

Yes.

King Saul's son Jonathan was clearly David's lover when they were young. Modern translations are trying to soften that, but the few copies of the originals we have are unforgiving. "And they embraced together until they exceeded" is one verse that I recall. Another one has David saying that he loved Jonathan with a love greater than that that he felt for women. Again, when Saul invites David (who later is King David, God's "chosen") to marry his daughter, he suggests that he now has two calls on David -- all but the most rabidly fundamentalist scholars believe that the first call was David's relationship with Jonathan.

This is likely not the only "homosexual" relationship that David had -- it is likely that the "eunuch" was also his lover at another time in his life.

I've included a link below that will take you to a page that will lead you through the love story -- enjoy it, and visit the other links if you want.

Oh, and ignore the raving lunatics that I am sure are rushing around insisting that it can't be true -- and so forth. They are just biblio-idolators -- you can't take fundamentalists seriously, they are just silly, and as we know from the Oklahoma City Bombing (Christian fundamentalists) and 9/11 (Muslim fundamentalists) sometimes scary and dangerous. Just pity them and after you read the whole story for yourself - -ask yourself, if something similar was written about two men in modern language -- would you think they were gay? I frankly don't know of anyone who wouldn't -- including the people who will, I'm sure, insist that they were just "good manly friends" or some such nonsense.

Kind regards,

Reynolds Jones
http://www.rebuff.org
believeinyou24@yahoo.com

2006-08-11 17:23:24 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Some people have looked at the friendship between David (as in king David in the Old Testament) and his friend Jonathan, was just a little tooooo close. The story is in 1 Samuel, I believe.
I don't think the text points toward that kind of relationship, it's possible I suppose, but in the story, David is actually married to Jonathan's sister (or engaged to or in love with, but something like that).

It's a good question though, and one that legitimate biblical scholars have been asking. I'm sure people might get upset by the question, but that's because they're just scared of the implications.

2006-08-11 17:19:24 · answer #3 · answered by squirellywrath 4 · 0 0

I know this is about 1 Samuel 18:1-4.
The scripture records the intense love David and Jonathan had for each other. Some see this as indication that they were homosexual. They infer this from the fact that Jonathan "loved" David (18:3); that Jonathan stripped in David's precence (18:4); that they "kissed" each other with emotion ( 1 Sam 20:41) they point also to David's lack of successful relationships with women as and indication of his homosexual tendencies. But that is not a valid conclusion.

There is not indication in scripture that David and Jonathan were homosexual. On the contruary, there is strong evidence that they were not. First of all, David's attraction to Bathsheba (2 Sam. 11) reveals that his sexual orientation was heterosexual, not homosexual. In fact, judging by the number of wives he had, David seemed to have too much heterosexuality. Second, David's ''love'' for Jonathan was not sexual (erotic) but a friendship love. It is common in eastern cultures for heterosexual men to express love and affection toward another. Third. Jonathan did not strip himself of all his clothes in David's presence. He only stripped himself of his armor and royal robe as a symbol of his deep respect for David and commitment to him. Fourth, the ''kiss'' was a common cultural greeting for men in that day. Furthermore, it did not occur until two and a half chapters after Jonathan gave David his clothes (1 Sam.20:41) Finally, the emotion they expressed was weeping, not orgasm. The text says, ''they kissed each other and wept together-but David wept the most'' (1 Sam.20:41,NIV)

2006-08-11 17:35:30 · answer #4 · answered by SeeTheLight 7 · 0 0

Jonathan was the son of the king. He and David were best friends, much like guys are today. There was no homosexuality mentioned about the two young men.

2006-08-11 17:15:30 · answer #5 · answered by The Nana of Nana's 7 · 0 0

David was a man of God's own heart and that is a bad interpretation. You can love someone without sex involved. I have had friends i loved. A pervert would interpret it as homosexuality though. God burned Sodom and Gomarrah for the massive homosexuality.

2006-08-11 17:16:31 · answer #6 · answered by Ned B 1 · 0 0

Nope. That's putting a 20th-21st century spin on a BC relationship. Once upon a time, two men could be friends, even close friends, without sexual overtones. This is just an indication of the perversity of our generation.

2006-08-11 17:18:56 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

No, they were just very good friends who had a friendship type of love between them. There is no indication in the Scriptures to suggest otherwise.

2006-08-11 17:13:58 · answer #8 · answered by BrotherMichael 6 · 0 0

No, there is no reason to beleive this at all. They were great friends. But of course because of the many lies spread by various gorups that wish to make it appear that way I can understand your confusion.

2006-08-11 17:16:43 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Absolutely not. God used this story to show how two friends could love one another, but He never would have used the story if it went against His word.

2006-08-11 17:14:20 · answer #10 · answered by ? 7 · 0 0

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