Jehovah's Witnesses practice the Scriptural practice of disfellowshipping for unrepentance of such serious sins as fornication, drug abuse, stealing, and apostasy. Baptized Witnesses who join the military or publicly engage in worship with another religion are considered to have disassociated themselves from Jehovah's Witnesses.
Contrary to the misinformation of anti-Witnesses, it is quite possible to become inactive in the JW religion without becoming disfellowshipped. As long as one's lifestyle does not bring reproach upon the congregation, and as long as one does not advocate one's disagreements with the religion, the congregation has no interest in "investigating", exposing, and disfellowshipping an inactive former Jehovah's Witness.
For those who are disfellowshipped or disassociated, a primarly goal is to shock the person into recognizing the serious of their wrong so that they rejoin the congregation in pure worship. Since the primary bonds that are broken involve friendship and spiritual fellowship, it is well understood that family bonds remain intact. Parents, siblings, and grown children of disfellowshipped and disassociated ones sometimes choose to limit what they may feel is discouraging or "bad association" but that is a personal decision and is not required by their religion.
Former Witnesses who are disfellowshipped or disassociated are typically treated in accord with the Scriptural pattern explained in these Scriptures:
(1 Corinthians 5:11-13) Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man. ...Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.
(Titus 3:10) As for a man that promotes a sect, reject him after a first and a second admonition
(Romans 16:17) Now I exhort you, brothers, to keep your eye on those who cause divisions and occasions for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them.
(2 Thessalonians 3:6) Now we are giving you orders, brothers, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, to withdraw from every brother walking disorderly and not according to the tradition you received from us.
(2 Thessalonians 3:14) But if anyone is not obedient to our word through this letter, keep this one marked, stop associating with him, that he may become ashamed.
(2 John 10) If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, never receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him.
(Matthew 18:17) If he does not listen to them, speak to the congregation. If he does not listen even to the congregation, let him be to you just as a man of the nations
Becoming baptized as a Jehovah's Witnesses is not a trivial step. At a minimum, a student must demonstrate months of regular meeting attendance and public ministry, then must himself express the desire to be baptized. The candidate then spends hours answering hundreds of bible questions wherein he expresses both a clear understanding and personal conviction regarding Jehovah's Witness teachings in at least three separate interviews with three different elders. The candidate must vocally agree to be baptized in front of hundreds or thousands of eyewitnesses, and must be publicly immersed in water. This is not a momentary emotional decision by an unreasoning child. Dedication as a Witness required hard work and determination at the time.
Learn more:
http://www.watchtower.org/library/w/1988/4/15/article_01.htm
http://www.watchtower.org/library/w/1997/1/1/article_01.htm
2006-08-14 02:52:40
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answered by achtung_heiss 7
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That's a simplistic generalization. But the apostle Paul gave that advice to the early Christian chruch and they are following the bible's example. And if you don't like talking to them say so politely, that's all you need to do. I hardly think they are pushing religion down your throat. They are out sharing the good news BROTHER!!!
I actually like talking to them when they come by, I play stump the Jehovah's Witnesses. One good topic is about blood transfusions and why a loving God would let people die rather than have a blood transfusion, which wasn't even a possibility when that part of the Old Testament was written. Isn't it limiting when you base a doctrine on a couple of texts about food preparation and sanitary practices.
2006-08-18 23:30:57
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answered by doc_jhholliday 4
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Not positively sure..(not a J.W.) But I do know the Kingdom Leaders/Counsil have some really messed up ways of promoting people & punishing people & dealing with criminal actions w/in the "church" ....
Just tell them you are a born again CHRISTIAN! & TO LEAVE YOU ALONE!
That should do it. They don't like Christians.. believe it or not & they will try to tell you that their "cult" & Christianity is the same thing & it IS NOT!
I do hope & pray that you are a Believer in Jesus Christ.
Yea, I have a funny story...about them (J.W.) coming to my door at 9AM.
I just go home from working a double shift (got called in early cuz someone called off)... I worked from 3pm to 7 am!! I was dead to the world for about an hour when someone came beating down my door. .. Well I wasn't going to answer it cuz everyone who knew me knew I worked midnight & would be sleeping. But figured it might be some sort of emergency??? So I got up.. looked like hell & to someone who didn't know better I probably looked like I was out all night & was on serious with drawl from something cuz of the rings & bags under my eyes!!!!.. I had a old ratty looking Harley Davidson Tshirt on & cut off ratty jean shorts & my hair resembled a crows nest!!! Well since I just woke up my voice was all raspy & grumpy sounding...
Lets just say that with the way I sounded & looked & acted since I was sooooooo tired.. I think I scared them away.. THEY NEVER came back! All I did was take their pamphlet & told them I was already saved by Jesus Christ & to have a good day & firmly shut the door.
I didn't use nasty language, or anything...
Worked for me.. even though I was not trying??!!!!
GOD BLESS You.
2006-08-18 22:31:30
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answered by Joeysol'lady 3
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You ask a ??? pertaining to Jehovah's Witnesses, unless a Witness answers your ???, all you receive is a bunch of utter nonsense, lies, they know very little about JW's, they just like to toot their horn.
Who are most of these people? Some just hate the teaching of JW's, but many are disfellowshipped, apostates, a disloyal person who betrays or deserts his cause or religion. Why did they leave or were disfellowshipped, here are some reasons:
Some of the offenses that could merit disfellowshipping from the Christian congregation are fornication, adultery, homosexuality, greed, extortion, thievery, lying, drunkenness, reviling, spiritism, murder, idolatry, apostasy, and the causing of divisions in the congregation.
Christians do not hold themselves aloof from people. We have normal contacts with neighbors, workmates, schoolmates, and others, and witness to them even if some are ‘fornicators, greedy persons, extortioners, or idolaters.’ Paul wrote that we cannot avoid them completely, ‘otherwise we would have to get out of the world.’ He directed that it was to be different, though, with “a brother” who lived like that: “Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that [has returned to such ways], not even eating with such a man.” 1Â Corinthians 5:9-11; Mark 2:13-17.
In the apostle John’s writings, we find similar counsel that emphasizes how thoroughly Christians are to avoid such ones: “Everyone that pushes ahead and does not remain in the teaching of the Christ does not have God, If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, never receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For he that says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works.” 2Â John 9-11.
We can be just as sure that God’s arrangement that Christians refuse to fellowship with someone who has been expelled for unrepentant sin is a wise protection for us. “Clear away the old leaven, that you may be a new lump, according as you are free from ferment.” (1 Corinthians 5:7) By also avoiding persons who have deliberately disassociated themselves, Christians are protected from possible critical, unappreciative, or even apostate views. Hebrews 12:15, 16.
Now you and any others can accept or reject what the Bible says, it's your decision.
2006-08-11 23:28:38
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answered by BJ 7
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Yes, it's true.
In response to Bill who says that an apostate is a disloyal person who betrays or deserts his religion, I would like to remind him that many Jehovah's Witnesses were formerly members of other religions who then became "disloyal" and "betrayed" their religion to join up with the JW's. Also, one of the main purposes of his life is to encourage others to be "disloyal" to their present religion and become a JW. And let's don't forget that when Charles Russell started this religion, it was all about apostacy or "standing off" from the organized religions of Christianity.
I would also like to say that I myself am disfellowshipped for NO other reason except that I was honest enough to say that I don't think we should blindly follow a few fallible men who sometimes speak lies - whether intentionally or unintentionally - but instead we should stand up for truth. That is considered apostacy because loyalty to the 'faithful and discreet slave' of the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society is apparently more important than upholding the truth. Who says so? They do.
And finally, he says that unless a Jehovah's Witness answers your question, "all you receive is bunch of utter nonsense, lies, they know very little about JW's." While it's true that much of what people say on this board fits into that category, I assure you that my answers contain no lies and I probably know more about Jehovah's Witnesses than he does. My answers are objectionable to Witnesses, however, because they are the "plain truth" and not the whitewashed variety that Witnesses will offer.
2006-08-14 12:39:01
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answered by Anonymous
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We follow the Bibles admonition to keep the congregation clean and a person is disfellowshipped only if they willfully and repeatedly practice a sin that God hates. We follow the Scripture found at 1 Corinthians 5:11:-13 " But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person."
So, we are told to put the wrongdoer out of the congregation, not to keep company with a brother or sister who insists on commiting gross sins, and not to have meals with them.
We will lovingly welcome the person back if they show true repentance and no longer practice what is bad in God's eyes.
2006-08-11 23:04:22
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answered by Micah 6
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I knew a congregation of witnesses when I lived in Lubbock. They were nice individuals but could be adamant in seeking you out. Their group requires that they place you on a do not visit list if you ask them to.
No need to lie or be rude. It is a simple thing to contact their main congregation and ask to be placed on the list if the people visiting your area do not do as you ask.
I was able to maintain a friendship with the nice lady that camne to my house without talking about their beliefs during informal meetings. ( Gro. store, bakers etc.)
2006-08-19 21:58:00
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answered by Makingwishes 2
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Why the hell would you join a cult, unless you need mental Help...and if they kicked you out, be grateful. I hear that there is another comet coming soon..Go ahead and drink some cool aid with them, so that you could fly with them behind the comet.
2006-08-19 19:15:47
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answered by yahoooo reject 3
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Yes.
When you do commit acts like smoking, gay sex, drugs, commit crimes, share a close friendship with a disfellowshipped person, and sometimes adultry, you yourself can be disfellowshipped. My crime was asking questions, which is under the tag line "apostacy"--the worst crime for a JW, yet I was never "officially" disfellowshipped becuase I never consented.
So yes, shunning is part of the dogma.
Just say you were disfellowshipped for smoking or for apostacy. That should work.
2006-08-12 09:33:55
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answered by The Garden of Fragile Egos 3
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Yes, they will in general not speak to you unless they're trying to get you back in the "fold".
Beware though, they will try to quiz you on many JW buzzwords if you say you quit the religion.
And BTW, heads up on all the JW's here who are going to post long winded, senseless copy and pastes from their websites onto this site.
A simple sign that says "All religious proselytizers that come to this house will be charged with trespassing!" will suffice. And if they don't listen to the sign, you can legally do to them whatever you want.
2006-08-11 22:45:10
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answered by enigma_frozen 4
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