The bible... for christians?

Question

have you ever researched your self about the origins of the bible, I mean read a christian view as well as other views? you know, a real in depth search, 360 degrees, as to where the books came from and why only the ones in the bible were chosen?
Now I would like that you not respond "I believe what I believe and I believe in the bible" cause it's like saying "I believe that the sky will fall" and I'd prefer that you don;t tell me about you having faith in whats written, because that is not a correct response to my question.
have you ever researched the origins of the bible? or have you just blindly accepted what is written in it?

Answer 1

The Bible is divided into 2 parts the Old and New Testaments. A 'testiment' (or covenant) is a solemn and binding agreement. These two covenants show in two distinctive, but not contradictory, ways God's determination to bring men and women into a right relationship with Himself. Grasping this will avoid the mistake of thinking that the Old Testament is out of date or that the New Testament is 'Plan B. There is certainly a division in time between the two, (a gap of 400 years) between them, but not a divison in theme.Both covenants are in complete agreement about the attributes and character of God, the nature of man and by which we can experience the reality of God's presence and power in our lives. The Old and New Testaments are like the two halves of a sentence, both are necessary before we can grasp the whole meaning. We can begin to clear some of the misconceptions about the Bible by listing some fundamental facts that most of its critics have never grasped.
The 66 documents (books of the Bible) are not arranged in chronological order. eg. In the Bible as we now have it, Hosea comes four books later than Jerimaih, but it was written about 150 years earlier. However the first and last books are definately in their right places because the first begins with a description of how everything except God came into existence-including time, space and matter while the last (Revelation) takes us beyond all future time and into eternity.

Secondly, they were not all written in the same language, Most were in Hebrew, many in Greek and a few verses in Aramaic.

Thirdly, all the books are not all of the same kind. Some are pure history, others concentrate on civil or criminal law; there are sections laying down rules and regs to poetry, teaching, prophecy's prayers, hymns etc. God's Word the Bible is the Inspired Word of God. Governments have tried to stamp it out, man has tried to take it apart, but the Word of God endures forever. It is as relevant today as it has always been. It is an ethical and moral handbook for us today, and speaks about abortion, killing, marriage, divorce, greed, selfishness, obscenity. It addresses animal welfare and care for the environment, it also points the ways to love joy peace patience kindness long-suffering, faithfulness gentleness and self-control. In fact, no other book ever written has sold more copies, or come close to the way in which the it speaks to life in the 21st century.

Answer 2

The Bible we know to day and the Bible known by Jesus and countless other important figures today are not one and the same.

The Bible we know today is quite honestly, one of the most rewritten, altered and censored pieces known.
This is not censoring because the content was innappropriate or immoral, but because it dissagreed with the agenda and directions of the current church, not God.

Today's Bible is a work of Man, not of God. The passage "thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" was created by Puritans to fit their own ideas.

The real and original Bible is actually humongous. There are countless Gospels actually torn out from the old Bible.

The Gospel according to Mary, the Gospel according to Peter, and so forth.
Many of these works contained information which celebrated the connection and freedom to an eternally forgiving and wise being, but threatened the system of government which the Church held supreme, and could govern even kings by.

Content such as Mary Magdalene being not just a former sinner but a forgiven convert and favored, yes, even empowered Woman disciple was highly frowned upon (See Gospel According to Mary. It still exists).
The Gospel according to Peter, actually contains a passage which laughably was called "blasphemous." Who is deciding what is the blasphemy? The church who came AFTER the authoring of the work, or the original founders and guides of the religion?
The part most famous is when Peter, plagued by confusion, remorse and suffering knowing that there is an Eternal Hell, spoke with Jesus. His words follow like (not in English of course. Didn't exist then), "..I cannot take this, that if we are of an eternally forgiving God, how can it, how is it, that these people, those condemned to be punished for their sins, will stay so, forever?" And Jesus smiled and replied quietly, "Well, it's a secret, so don't tell anybody, but they're going to get out. They're going to get out, eventually. But don't tell anyone because then they'll just sin a whole lot more."

Perhaps, Dearest Son, but when you live knowing that each sin can extend time in a place of unimaginable suffering, is it not better to live a good life?

I for one will not and can not ever accept the Bible thrown about today and held high with closed covers or with the hand open to a page so that people know the book is open, but they are never close enough to read it, and the man hold it, holds it away from his eyes.

The Bible I read, is the one written upon the parchments we find in ancient clay pots, in the sands, the words written by the original authors.

It is a far more vast, wondrous, and truly loving book of wisdom and joy as well as pain, sorrow and teachings.

Does eschewing the words of today's man for the sake of what was originally written make me a Christian, a Sinner, etc.?

For me, it is faith in Divinity, in People (a part of Divinity), and in Life and the sacred hope of discovery of beyond death, and first hand teachings which are most important.

After all, in honesty, do you listen to the words of a relative over the words of the actual person you respect?

I give no sin nor perversion here. Only blatant honesty. And that is true faith enough.

Answer 3

And you blindly accept what your "research" tells you? You actualy went through every existing copy of a copy of all the fragments that were put togeather and did "your own research"??? You know all of these obscure dialects most of the fragments are written in??? Wow! how long did it take you to learn all of that so that you could then begin to undertake such a assive undertaking????
Wow you must be rich and have lots of time on your hands... or could it be you just took the word of someone else who told you or wrote some book or quoted someone elses research that was an extension of someone else's... Do you trust all of these people?

I did not come to God through "The Bible" I heard God's call and I answered... it was just God and me one-onpone and personal...it is not necessary to "know" all about The Bible to know God. I did not even own one on the day I recieved my salvation... and I did not have anyone sitting there Quoting to me from one... one moment I would have been speaking just as you do in ignorance... the next moment I was one of God's promise... no real Bible knowledge needed... now I study to conferm...and all that I read conferms what God gave to me at the moment of my Salvation...

There are no inerrant tests of The Bible in existance. All of the original texts were lost well over 1500 yrs ago... and man has been mcking about with the copies of copies of translations of fragments of copies ever since...

There is no way any understanding of God's will can be understoodfrom "The Bible" with out the Leading of The Holy Spirit. For one who dose not even believe there is a god there is no hope of any understanding of The Christians Faith in God's promise... you can read and "study" all you want.... unless you come to God in The Way He proscribes you will never have any understanding of The Truth of God's Word or Will.

And yes, I have "researched" some... not from just "the church stuff" but from even the blatently ani Christian orginization The National Geographic Society... and from Jewish and other secular sources... I was, over a period of many years, before becoming of The Christian Faith, recruted by the mormons. Ilooked into that and did my own study... even as one who at the time was very anti bible thumper I could tell that those christian nuts had much more to offer that the mormons... I spent a summer in Israel and seriously concidered converting...

But when God calls it is an offer you should not refuse... you an ofcourse...and I did for a long time... but I highly recomend if you do hear God calling that you accept His offer... It is The Way, The Truth, and The Life...and it is your life...your emmortal life you are deciding when you heed or refuse God.

Answer 4

Yes, I have research the origins of the books of the bible, old and new. I can only hope that God has a hand in the choice of the books which were accepted and rejected in some supernatural way. It is interesting that the dead sea scrolls back up a lot of accepted scripture. It's a bit of a complicated question to try to answer in a paragraph or two, but yes, I have.

Answer 5

The Bible is really just a fake story, perhaps a bit like the Loch Ness monster tales.

When we pass on information to another (example: story, joke, description of something etc) by the time these details are passed on by word of mouth, interpreted by others, and then written down, the final details are typically quite different than the original information.

Since the Bible is just a man-made story passed down over many years in various forms, the chance of it being accurate in any shape or form is remote.

There are people who swear blind that the Loch Ness monster exists regardless of all the evidence to the contrary, but a fence post bobbing up and down in the Loch does the trick. Similarly there are people who swear blind that God exists and the Bible is fact, yet there isn’t one blind bit of evidence to support such theories.

Biblical tales are really no different than Loch Ness monster tales, just the era is different. Here’s even more proof that all Religions and the Bible are just man-made nonsense.

The universe has been around for billions of years. Many religious people are wakening up to the fact that all religions are just man-made bunkum developed by simplistic human intelligence.

On a universal scale, human intellect does not have the ability to understand much of what is happening, why it happened, and what will happen in the future, so to fill the gaps in their minds they substitute artificial reasoning commonly referred to as religion.

Religion is an escape from the inability to reason intellectually, and because it’s easy to play make believe, further subsets are created like the Bible, Jesus, Adam, Eve etc, in order to justify the mental illusion.

Stephen Hawking suggested that if the universe was created then it is reasonable to assume it had a creator. Since human intellect is unable to determine whether the universe was created, religion takes over and assumes it was and calls the creator God. That’s nothing more than speculative conjecture and more bunkum.

Answer 6

The Bible is true,no lie about it(John 17:17)

Answer 7

no one agrees on the origens of the bible since most writings were copies of copies, not originals. they do however pretty much accept the known sources as accurate, regardless of whether they belong or don't belong. catholics accept some thatprotestants don't. cathars are also historical, but are called heretical works etc. blind acceptance is just that, blind.

Answer 8

There are hundreds of documents from that point in time that disproove what the bible says, they just arnt advertised by people with billions of dollars....

Answer 9

of course as a non believer i was very skeptical but researched the origins. i cant tell you about it on here not enough room. it made me believe.

Answer 10

the Bible is real