Muhammad Ali vs. Rocky Marciano who wins?

Question

Smitty easy bro easy......

MichaelG, Chuvalo lost to Ali twice and went the distance both times.

Answer 1

To michealg: the fight that you are talking about was between Ali and Bonavena.

To toughguy - Check ring magazine Louis was the greatest puncher of all-time, Marciano is only the 14th greatest puncher. Plus on most of your answers your conservative politics are showing.

Marciano - W 49 (KO's 43) TF 49 - W pct 100% - KO pct 88% - wins over Louis, Walcott{2}, Moore and Charles{2} - KO'ed by none - #14 ranked puncher - #12 ranked fighter

Ali - W 50 (KO's 43) TF 61 - W pct 92% - KO pct 57% - wins over Frazier[2], Liston{2}, Foreman and Patterson[2] - KO'ed by Holmes (Ali should have stayed retired like Marciano) - #3 ranked fighter
Greatest chin ever (he survived fights with 4 great punchers [Foreman, Moore, Liston and Foster])
What would Ali's record had looked like if he hadn't been stripped of his title (by conservative people like toughguy) for refusing to go to Vietnam.

The fight: Ali cuts Marciano to shreds and his corner man (Goldman) refuses to let him answer the bell for the 15th rd just Futch did for Frazier.

Answer 2

Everybody loves the Marciano story, even Ali. But Ali would have beat him, but with a lot of work. Remember the Ali fight with Canadian George Chavalo. Not nearly as talented as Marciano but Chuvalo could take a punch just as well. That fight went the full 15 rounds before Ali won on a TKO, and Ali was in his prime.

Answer 3

Although I was able to view the "computer" generated match between Marciano and Ali, its version of what would've been doesn't affect my view had these two really met. I believe Ali would win a UD. Given both fighters at their prime, Marciano was 29 yo when he won the Heavyweight Title from Joe Walcott. The victory came on a 13th round KO, however up to the point of the stoppage, Walcott was ahead on the cards. He even put Rocky on the canvas in the first round. All this at the age of 39.

Ali's speed, jab, and ability to avoid being hit (Ali before being stripped of title) would make it a long night for Rocky. But I have tons of respect for Marciano, he fought his entire career at around 187 pounds.

Answer 4

Career stats have nothing to do with the fighters and neither does a made up computer fight - these two points I agree with you on. The real issue is this - styles make fights. Ali was a great fighter - one of the greatest of all time and one of my favorite fighters as well. The problem in this fight is that Rocky Marciano is exactly the kind of opponent and the kind of style that gave Ali fits. Like any boxer, Ali had difficulty in dealing with brawlers who had crowding styles and fought out of a crouch. Boxers like to fight on the outside and keep their opponents on the end of their jabs. This is not what Ali would be able to do with Marciano. Marciano's style was very similar to Joe Frazier's except that Marciano was better at it and could blast an opponent out of there with either hand whereas Joe Frazier really only had the left hook. It has been mentioned that Ali was able to take George Foreman's best shots and come back to win - actually that's inaccurate. Ali, due to Foremans long looping punches, used the rope a dope against him causing Foreman to use up his best shots on Ali's arms as he leaned away. Ali wouldn't be able to do this against Marciano because he came in low and like to fight on the inside so Rope-a-Doping wouldn't work either. Basically, Marciano would spend most of the fight walking down Ali who would try to move and flick his jab as Marciano dished out body punishment until Ali started to tire out By around round 10 or 11 Ali would start to be more in range for Marciano's power shots and by round 14 Ali would be staring up at the ring lights wondering why the person above him insisted on counting out numbers one through ten.

Answer 5

I can't believe people still ask this idiotic question. Muhammad Ali is the greatest fighter ever, pound for pound. Rocky Marciano is the most overrated boxer in the history of the sport.
On size alone, could you imagine a 5ft 10in.185 pound Marciano having a semblance of a chance against a 6ft 3 in. 225 pound Ali?

Answer 6

Finally the big one! The undefeated Marciano with the hardest punch in boxing history, the best killer instinct, the most determined, toughest with the most stamina and endurance versus the fastest heavyweight withe best jab and footwork in history! I always have ranked Marciano #1 Louis #2 and Ali#3 as the greatest fighters of all time. Rocky was a fighter that was always looking for that devastating shot and once he got it in there, his opponent was done. I definetly have a great deal of respect for both. I believe that Ali would win the early rounds with Marciano getting in some good body shots and good punches to the head. In the middle rounds I see Marciano getting Ali on the ropes and punishing him and slowing him down with body shots to the ribs and arms taking away some of Ali's speed. In a fight that Ali is winning, Marciano comes on strong and lands Suzie Q on Ali's jaw in the 14th round and though he beats the count, the referee stops the fight with a bruised and battered Marciano the winner of a great fight.

Answer 7

Yeah but George Chuvalo ain't no Rocky Marciano. I go for Ali but just, he'll have to work for it and I know he will. Rocky was a tough one but Ali has the goods.

Answer 8

There was a bout between them years ago done with a computer. Someone filmed various sequences, and someone edited them to match what the computer said. It picked Marciano as winner. The bout was much like Marciano versus Ezzard Charles. Rocky could take whatever his opponent threw at him and stay on his feet to win eventually. I read a poll of experts who rated the Marquess of Queensberry boxers. Their consensus was that Jim Jeffries was best, Jack Johnson 2nd and Cassius Clay 10th. Among the other boxers ahead of Clay were Rocky Marciano, Jack Dempsey (the most killer instinct) and John L. Sullivan. I'll go along with the experts.

Answer 9

Rocky Marciano.

He can take a punch. It would go about 14 rounds, Ali winning each, when in the 15th round, Rocky knocks him out.

Answer 10

Ali