Mark 15:34
And at the ninth hour Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?"—which means, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"
There are several religions that belive that God and Jesus are one in the same, but if this is true then who was Christ talking to?
2006-08-11 07:40:56 · 47 answers · asked by buford_bargain_hunter 2 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
The Trinity is not Bible doctrine. It was rounded out in the year 325.
Jesus, the Son of God was praying to his Father, the same God he wants us to pray to.
Joh 20:17 Jesus said to her, "Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brothers and say to them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'"
2006-08-11 07:43:20 · answer #1 · answered by rangedog 7 · 3⤊ 2⤋
In order to understand what is going on in this passage and many others in the Synoptic Gospels, you have to understand Christology (the study of Christ). In the Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church, and other Christian faiths it is accepted as divine revelation that Christ is both Divine and Human. However, let us not make the mistake of thinking that His Divine and Human nature are mixed or synthesized. They are unified, but with no admixture. This was accepted among the Catholic
Church in 325 AD at the Council of Nicea. The humanity of Christ even had the same natural limitations as we do. Note in the Gospels where Jesus experienced pain, suffering, fear, He was thirsty, He was hungry, He had to sleep, etc. etc. just like all of us.
This is important to know because when you read the words in the Synoptic Gospels, "Eloi, Eloi lema sabachthani" you understand that it is Christ's humanity (Jesus) who is praying.
May the Lord bless and keep you. May He let the light of His face shine upon you.
God's and your beast of burden
Fr. john
2006-08-11 08:02:23 · answer #2 · answered by som 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Hi Buford,
Jesus was quoting Scripture to fulfill an OT prophecy. Jesus at that moment felt the pain of being separated from His Father- remember, the 3 have always been one (The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit). Jesus humbled himself in the form of a man to understand our pain and to pay the price for our sins.
Jesus shows us the perfect relationship between an obedient son and His Heavenly Father. When believers receive Jesus they come into the family of Christ (that's why they are brothers and sisters) and God is their heavenly Father. Jesus most certainly could have taken Himself off the cross, but he demonstrated that His will was to do the Father's will, just like believers are to live for the Father's will.
From your other question regarding Genesis- it sounds like you are struggling to understand the doctrine of the Trinity. I would suggest a systematic theology book (they cover that topic very well) and i think it helps... It's too hard to explain and would be quite lengthy... i've done my fair share of personal study and it was a doctrine that was not learned over-night- so i encourage you to study and discern for yourself...
Blessings- hope that helps,
Nickster
2006-08-11 07:55:52 · answer #3 · answered by Nickster 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
God has three distinct & separate aspects, or personalities. The Irish liken it to a 3 leaf clover...3 leaves, one plant. Jesus was talking to God the Father, as in John 3:16 where it says "And God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son (Jesus)..." Jesus is God incarnate, the Son of Man, so that we might have a living example of the Father. The Holy Spirit was sent to believers after Jesus ascended, to dwell within to testify of Jesus, but again they are all God. God in One, 3 in One.
2006-08-11 07:47:13 · answer #4 · answered by YedidNefesh 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Okay first of all I dont want to offend anyone but this is what i believe, There is a Trinity: God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
I beleive that Jesus and God are not the same Person. What I believe is Jesus is God's Son, and when Jesus was on the cross, when he said those things he was talking to his Heavenly father. So in a sort of Sense they are but...... as in the trinity.......... I do not believe they are the same person.
sincerely,
Chicky Bbay
2006-08-11 07:55:19 · answer #5 · answered by ♥ Katie is head over heels ♥ 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Jesus is God (manifested) in the flesh-- God is a Spirit-- Jesus walking down on earth was doing the work of God for 33 1/2 years! God created man- and yet it was (man) who in turn crusified Jesus Christ-- Jesus was talking to his father
2006-08-11 07:47:43 · answer #6 · answered by kids 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
He was not talking to God. Jesus never called God "God", he always called God "Father".
Jesus was teaching Psalm 22. This Psalm talks about the Crucifixion a thousand years before the fact. Jesus was teaching.
2006-08-11 07:45:32 · answer #7 · answered by LP S 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
This is a tricky subject and i dont really know how to explain it but i believe it... Its the trinity, although they are the same there is God the Father, God the Son (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit... Jesus was talking to God the Father on the cross....the best way i know to explain it is think of water, it comes in three forms(ice, water, and steam) but no matter what form its all still water just like the trinity is all still God
2006-08-11 07:44:12 · answer #8 · answered by Crys 1 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Well Jesus and God are one its like an apple; you have the skin, the fruit, and then the core. 3 parts in one. Jesus was the son of God, when they say that they were one Jesus and God were never seperated they were allways together and when He was crucified he said My Gog my God why have you forsaken me because it was the first time that God turned away from Him because He had our sins on Him and it was so inpure that God had to look away. He was talking to God the one that made Him whole
2006-08-11 07:49:17 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
God ISN'T Jesus ... Jesus is God's son.
In what you quoted, Jesus was speaking to God, his Father.
Also, I haven't done an exhaustive search, but the major Christian religions DON'T view God and Jesus as the same. You may be confusing the description of the Trinity (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) as meaning they are the same. This refer's to the Heavenly Son, not the earthly apparition of Jesus. Jesus is God's Son, made of flesh, while the Son of the Trinity is the Heavenly Son.
2006-08-11 07:46:02 · answer #10 · answered by Carl S 4 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Jesus and God are the same but he also said "Father" so he must be referring to God the Father. Yes, this seems to be contradictory but it is not because of the Holy Trinity there is three persons in one and true God.
2006-08-11 07:50:05 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋