Fact or fiction: Christian churches in America have and do marry gays.?

Question

Does the first amendment protect the rights of those Christian churches to marry people of the same gender?

Does this fact alone coupled with the first amendment completely decimiate the anti-gay marriage movement in America?

I ask again, has the sky falled in any nation or state where there is same sex marriage (or civil union)?

If the sky hasn't fallen, why hasn't it fallen?

In Genesis chapter 18 the sky reigned with fire from the God because of the wickedness of Sodom.
Did that really happen, or is that just a made up lie to try and control people?

Is this really about love of God and love of the Bible and love of a passage that says homosexuals won't get into heaven (lev 18:22, romans 1:24-27, 1 corinthians 6:9, rev 15:22); or is it about bigotry?

Does anything embarras the religious right more than this? Do they feel any shame?

Answer 1

I never thought about it that way. If my church wants to marry two men in the eyes of their "god", then the government is infringing on religious freedom to interfere with that.


.... ahhh... it's all about christians trying to shove one religion, THEIR religion, down the throat of the nation. They completely disrespect the fact that this country was founded on religious freedom.

But I doubt that they feel any shame or embarassment about it.






Christians have declared themselves the judge over all other people and religions, so they don't realize the stupidity inherent in telling a Wiccan that they can't marry two people because of something that the christian bible says.

Answer 2

There are many churches, both Christian and Jewish, and non-denominational that will marry same-sex couples.

Marriage should be considered a religious, or faith-based choice, and churches must retain the right to control their own policies.

However, FEDERAL marriage is actually a civil contract, not a religious rite. The concept of federal marriage, which determines how a couple are treated by the state (a secular organization) should be open to all couples. It is not up to the dominant religion (Christianity) to determine how the state deals with couples in a civil contract. This is what separation of church and state is all about.

Unfortunately, these two different concepts have been confused by the current controversy. The correct approach would be to delete the term MARRIAGE from all state and federal law, and substitute CIVIL UNION. All citizens would then be allowed to enter into a state/federally recognized union, but the term marriage would be reserved to religious organizations, and they would continue to determine the rules for who could be married in their organization.

Answer 3

I always figure that a church or other house of worship doesn't have to marry any couple, for any reason. But my mom's a lapsed Pentecostal engaged to a lapsed Catholic; neither church will marry them because of it being a "mixed" marriage. Their marriage will be legal. My brother and his wife are "apatheists." Their marriage is legal. I'm a Pagan married to an atheist; if one of us was male, our marriage would be legal. There are many marriages that are not at all what the Christian Nationalists would call "godly" and would not be officiated at any church. Why are same-gender ones so different? And if we're hell-bound, why can't we just go to hell in peace, and not have the Christian Nationalists try to make hell on earth for us, too?

Answer 4

The Church can deny to marry any couple.

Your line of questioning is repetitive in nature and self conflicting.

Political careers have been destroyed or lost due to the fact of pro gay marriage.
That could be deemed as the sky falling in on them.
When you lose all credibility on one issue, yes.
The passages you quote here are the rules God set forth.
How can that be bigotry? It says they themselves made that choice, just like you can. however you will be judged on your decisions by God.

Answer 5

I am sure they feel no shame. Although they should, the sky is not falling and will not fall. Homosexuality is no sin. Live and let live. Everyone has the right to marry the person they love.

Answer 6

False so false the government made sure that the only people marry are man and woman. Not gays. And if a homosexual repents and becomes straight then they go to Heaven got that?

Answer 7

This is true. there are many misguided pastors. There are pastors who follow the money trail. This pastor is neither misguided nor does he follow the money trail.

Answer 8

Its called the JIM DARWIN SOCIETY CHURCH --fanny bay Australia

Answer 9

The only opinion that matter at all id God's and he called all an abomination. That settles it no matter how many amendments you make to change the constitution.


Luke 16:15 - And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.

Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; 19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. 20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. 24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

1 Corinthians 6

1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? 2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? 4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church. 5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren? 6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers. 7 Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded? 8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren. 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. 12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any. 13 Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body. 14 And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power. 15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid. 16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh. 17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit. 18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. 19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.




Revelation 17:4 - And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

Revelation 17:5 - And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

Revelation 21:27 - And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.