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I am wanting to know about ALL his treatments... medical and psychiatric. After all he was the founder of a major religion or at least a religion that has had a major effect on the world. So as he suffered from Bursitis and yet discovered the "Engram", it leaves more questions to come....

2006-08-10 23:18:34 · 3 answers · asked by diarbe 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Despite Theta's post, here are all the official documents concerning Hubbard including his letters asking for pyschiatric help and his death certificate which proves he was on pyschiatric medicine when he died:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink/cos/LRH-bio/
http://www.clambake.org/archive/hubbardcoroner/

I also dug this out,
"10 September 1945, Report of Medical Survey, duodenal ulcer, not physically fit"
http://www.lermanet.com/L_Ron_Hubbard/mr029.htm

I got it from here:
http://www.lermanet.com/LRonHubbard.htm

Here is an excellent and thorough look at Ron's life and the creation of dianetics and scientology:
http://www.clambake.org/archive/books/bfm/bfmconte.htm

Here's another:
http://www.clambake.org/archive/books/apobs/

So yes he told his members not to go to 'psychs' because they where evil and just trying to enslave the population for millions of years (yes he said that), but secretly got help himself and actually pleaded for it at points in his life.

Hubbard lied about his life to his members from start to finish.

I'm afraid that once you learn the truth of Hubbard's life and why he created scientology you start to realise it wasn't just his life he lied about but a great deal of scientology too...

This article looks at where Hubbard got his ideas from:
http://www.clambake.org/archive/lrhbare/

http://www.clambake.org
http://www.xenutv.com
http://www.lermanet.com
http://www.whyaretheydead.net

And Theta, I know you love conspiracy stories but maybe just maybe this person just wants to know about Hubbard and his life, the creator of the multi-million dollar organisation the Church of Scientology...

"Knowing L. Ron Hubbard's and Scientology's viewpoint regarding psychiatry, you'd have to be , to buy the idea that he was ever "treated" by one of these people."

Yes knowing that why did Ron get pyschiatric help? Puzzling isn't it? The answer is that Hubbard was a fraud, a conman, and thus didn't follow his own teachings, as his son is very quick to tell.

"Ron Jr. also recalls a hard-drinking, drug-abusing father who would mistreat his mother and other women, but who, when, under the influence, would delight in telling his son all of his exploits. Finally, Ron Jr. remembers his father as a "broke science-fiction writer" who espoused that the road to riches and glory lay in selling religion to the masses."
L Ron Hubbard Jnr
http://www.lermanet2.com/scientologynews/penthouse-LRonHubbardJr-interview-1983.htm

2006-08-11 02:27:00 · answer #1 · answered by Xenu.net 5 · 0 0

Not sure where you are trying to get to with this question.

The discovery of the "Engram" preceded the religion of Scientology. The existence of the Reactive Mind and the mechanics and effects of engrams , or mental image pictures, on the individual were originally the subject of Dianetics first published in 1950.
It was only after further research into who or what was "looking" at these mental image pictures that Hubbard more fully isolated, and was able to measure and demonstrate the properties of the human spirit . At which point he founded the religion of Scientology. The first book he published covering these discoveries was in 1951 "Scientology the Fundementals of Thought".

Are you trying to "disprove" over 30 years of research and investigation, countless books , articles, recorded lectures etc
not to mention the documented evidence and millions of personal testimonies, regarding the workability of the technology he developed..... with this man's medical records?

Are you nuts ???? Have YOU had psychiatric treatment ?

Knowing L. Ron Hubbard's and Scientology's viewpoint regarding psychiatry, you'd have to be , to buy the idea that he was ever "treated" by one of these people.

2006-08-11 02:02:31 · answer #2 · answered by thetaalways 6 · 0 1

he was a meglomaniac and a sci fi writer, how in the hell he managed to start a religion i dont know, some people are truly empty headed to follow that.

2006-08-10 23:23:08 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

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