Has the London terror intelligence been manipulated to help justify the wars in Iraq and Lebanon?

Question

Bush and Blair have both, in the past, exaggerated or distorted intelligence for their own benefit.

The current terror alert in London could be another example where flimsy facts have been exaggerated out of all proportion for polical ends.

It has certainly taken Iraq and Lebanon off the front pages and created another round of anti-muslim feelings around the world.

The whole event could have been stage managed to increase home support for Bush/Blair's unpopular wars and give Israel a cover increase military activity in Lebanon.

The nervousness created in the world by the London reports, provides Israel with a golden opportunity to sunstantially raise the stakes in Lebanon with little chance of cricism from the rest of the world.

This opportunity is unlikely to be missed and we could see a major incursion into sourthen Lebanon including a massive ground attack, possibly this weekend.

Could intelligence have been exaggerated and manipluated like this in todays world?

Magpie - first time I have ever been called a Lideral.

I just like to look at every angle.

Sorry Magpie - I meant Liberal.

Too much Coopers on Friday night..........

Answer 1

God, it must miserable to walk around so paranoid all the time.

Answer 2

I deeply think they are Illuminatis, and they are forging the "right major crisis" they need to make the Nations accept their New World Order, and the Martial Law !

Blair is known as Knight of Maltha,
Bush is known as Knight of Eulogia,

They are Illuminatis, and 33rd degree Free-Masons. They forged many History events like the Holocaust, Hitler was a British spy, and that was the first attempt toward this New World Order.

They are the Illuminatis, and they own you,
This is the New World Order, and it is your future if the world don't wake up :

And this is what Bush’s minions had to say in 2000;-
"Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor"
Project for the New American Century (2000)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century

“Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”
Hermann Göring(Nazi) 1946 Nuremberg Trials

"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order."
David Rockefeller: Statement to the Untied Nations Business Council in September 1994

"For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with other around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that is the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." David Rockefellers memoirs (2002)

Answer 3

I do not believe the intelligence has been exaggerated or manipulated. For some reason there is almost always a conspiracy theory. Terrorism is a real threat and one should heed the warnings. I would not suggest to anyone to let their guard down or disregard the warnings. If you do not believe the terrorist will try to strike again just ask the family's of the 2,976 people that were murdered on 9-11. They know the terror threat is real because they have lost a mom or dad, son or daughter aunt or uncle or a close friend.

Answer 4

If this was a plot they would not have used so many people. It would be very hard to falsely accuse and get 20 odd people to cooperate in serving time. Lets wait and see what the evidence and courts show. The Iraq war would be over tomorrow if the Iraq people would step up and take charge of their own country and stop their civil war. Not really possible to leave a country that is regularly killing over 100 people in a week.

Answer 5

well... its a bit extreme innit, to stage this i mean.. its effected the stock markets, oil prices, disrupted millions of peoples day to day lives and cost individuals, corporations and goverments gloabally billions. So think about it, why would you stage such a thing, we are already waging war in most of the middleeast either directly or indirectly and the fanatical muslim extremists are doing more to help the western world hate all muslims than any stunt like this could do.

Answer 6

Although I hate Bush and Blair, I am ready to believe anything they say when it comes to foiling bomb plots, until proven wrong. If the police had not uncavered this plot, then we would be looking at lost ones being blown up cos some people refused to believe that there was such a plot. You do realise that 9 planes packed with holiday makers from round the world were in danger, don't you?

Answer 7

I highly doubt it. These issues are only slightly related. By that idea though, what about the July 7th attack in England?

This is a war of ideas. Ideology is more dangerous than any weapon. And those who use these extreme ideologies to advance their agenda are evil. Pure evil. Bush and Blair may not be good leaders, But I think they are doing the best they can. It is hard to anticipate what is going to happen and their is alot of uncertainty, so I doubt they are going to make more of this than what it is.

Answer 8

there have been more than a number of excellent causes to eliminate Saddam. with the exception of the allegation of links to Sep 11. more than a number of different good causes. so as that they "offered" the warfare. So what. The warfare in Iraq is a noble reason. we try to end international terrorism. a good reason. And we try to unlock the tens of millions of Iraqis. a good reason. did you comprehend a extra effective thanks to end international terrorism? ought to you want Saddam become nevertheless in ability?

Answer 9

as information that British Muslims have been arrested means that there will be wave of rasism and hate to muslims in UK , no politican would make such move if it was not true.

and intelligence can not be manupulated as their job is inteligance what means that all info that Blair and Bush have is from them;)

what means that if, but i dont think so that they did, did all this coz B and B wanted it, they would rather cooperate than being manipulated;)

i would advice you to talk to some specialist or read more about politics, it might give you better vision how things works in the world;)

Answer 10

Stop and think for just a second. Focus your mind. Concentrate. think really, really hard. You may suck a lollipop if that helps.
How could the terror alert possibly justify the war in Iraq?
How could the terror alert possibly justify the UK's complicity in the war in Lebanon? How? How?
Is it not more likely that the war in Iraq and our involvement in Lebanon actually CAUSED the terror alert?
Therefore, if the reports of the alleged plot have been exaggerated (and I make no comment on that) it's not for the reasons you suggest.

Answer 11

Yeah that happens all the time. Governments in westren democracies have a habit of endangering 1000s of lives for a publicity sunt.
What would of happened if the alleged bombers hadn't been caught in time!!!