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so if the word was made flesh and not a spirit who was in that flesh/tabernacle?

2006-08-10 18:41:30 · 6 answers · asked by smncoll 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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the fullness of God dwelt in Christ Jesus, He was the living word

2006-08-10 18:47:38 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

It is not meant that he took a body without a soul. We know that Christ, as he dwelt among us, had not only a body, but a soul: John 12.27, "Now is my soul troubled..." (There are a bunch of other verses that support this point.)

That is a great verse, because it uses simple terms to make it clear that Jesus was a divine and sinless spirit, poured into a body that was subject to the temptations and laws of Earth. I don't think we need to read anything more into it than that.

The gospel of John may have been written later than the other New Testament gospels, but at least it does not seem to be another edited version of "Mark". (The gospel of John has a different sequence of events, does not contain parables about the kingdom of God, and has Jesus crucified on Passover rather than after eating the Passover meal with his disciples.)

In addition, unlike the gospels of Matthew and Luke, the gospel of John does not tell a birth story about the baby Jesus, but begins by affirming that Jesus is "the Word made flesh" who, as the Word, gave birth to all creation. "In the beginning," the fourth gospel begins, "was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." The Greek noun being translated as "Word" is "logos", which might be rendered just as correctly in English as teaching, law, rule, or order. I prefer the translation "truth".

Clearly, the reference here is to Genesis 1, which begins: "In the beginning when God created the heavens and the earth…God said, ‘Let there be light.’" In Genesis, creation is caused by the words of God. The gospel of John identifies this verbal act of creation with the "logos". The gospel then asserts that this Logos "became flesh and lived among us, and we have seen his glory, the glory as of a father’s only son, full of grace and truth."

We are so familiar with these words that we may not appreciate how strange they were at the time. Jesus was born of a Jewish woman in the backwaters of the Roman Empire, but claimed to be the manifestation of the truth that was at the beginning of all creation. Not surprisingly, we hear in the gospel of John that there is opposition to this point of view. In the first three gospels the adversaries of Jesus are generally identified as Jewish leaders, who are accused of being hypocrites for not practicing what they preach. The fourth gospel, as well as certain well known Hollywood types, identified the opponents of Jesus as "the Jews."

Some of "the Jews" rejecting the claims of the fourth gospel are disciples of Jesus. In John 6:53 Jesus is reported as saying, "Unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you." Seven verses later we read that when "many of his disciples" heard this, they said: "This teaching is difficult; who can accept it?" (Jn. 6:60) After Jesus tells the disciples, "The words I have spoken to you are spirit and life," we hear that "Because of this many of his disciples turned back and no longer went about with him." (Jn. 6:63, 66)

I can imagine: "What? You want us to drink your blood? So this is a vampire cult now?"

This division among the disciples of Jesus is not mentioned in the other New Testament gospels, but the fourth gospel reflects a conflict over the teaching that the Word made flesh and must be eaten instead of the Passover lamb. In short, the gospel of John says that Jesus Christ has replaced the Jewish Passover with the Christian Eucharist.

Needless to say, this passage and a few other like it were the source of a great deal of Jewish persecution over the last 2000 years or so. The singers change, but the tune remains the same: People read a verse here and a verse there, and then twist the Bible to suit their own narrow agenda.

Fair is fair. Read the Bible and understand the verses to mean whatever you feel them to mean. But read with your heart. Your mind will sometimes steer you wrong, but your heart will not.

2006-08-11 08:58:53 · answer #2 · answered by pretzelert 2 · 0 0

It is Jesus Christ...

if you read 1st John... 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

The Word is referring to Jesus Christ.

2006-08-11 01:49:46 · answer #3 · answered by ♥Tom♥ 6 · 0 0

Who is young and why is he using King James Version, for God's sake? You can't trust the translations of that bible for anything.

2006-08-11 01:48:47 · answer #4 · answered by ERIC G 3 · 0 0

Jesus was made flesh and
stayed with us.

What is so difficult with that.

2006-08-11 01:46:00 · answer #5 · answered by whynotaskdon 7 · 1 0

personally, i've always considered it like this:
god's energy focused on a human animal body.
does that help?

2006-08-11 11:05:29 · answer #6 · answered by Stuie 6 · 0 0

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