If so, are you aware of the following?
As a member of Congress, Thomas Jefferson, at 33, drafted the Declaration of Independence. In years following he labored to make its words a reality in Virginia. Most notably, he wrote a bill establishing religious freedom, enacted in 1786.
In his autobiography, he wrote: "Jesus as the source of religious liberty was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection: the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and the Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination."
In fact, Jefferson himself was not Christian, he considered himself a Deist (which means that he believes in God but does not believe in Christs ressurrection).
Benjamin Franklin, who was also a signer of the Declaration of Independance was an agnostic who is on record as "strongly doubting the divinity of Jesus Christ." Franklin did, however promote that ALL religions express some morality and goodness.
2006-08-10
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It amazes me at how many folks on here are suggesting that I need to read the constitution and the declaration of Independance... I've read them both.
I fail to see how I am misled... Furthermore, I don't think that I am misleading anyone about Jefferson and Franklin... they were pretty important to the foundation of the US and this is all very well documented.
2006-08-10
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This person who thinks, "In God We Trust" says it all might be interested to learn that our founders motto was "of many, one." That's an American motto. That "In God...." was added during the evil McCarthy days and represents all that is bad about America.
I believe our country was not at all founded on christianity.
First, our constitution says there shall be no religious test to hold office, then it says the govt cannot establish a religion (tax you to support the church, as in prayer in public schools) nor prohibit the free exercise of religion.
Second, our founders themselves were involved in The Treaty of Tripoli, which states specifically and is signed by our senate of the time "the united states is in no wise a Christian nation."
John Adams, whom many think was Christian because of his advocacy of religion, actually wrote Jefferson that religion was for the little people. People like he and Jefferson didn't need it! He also said he hoped in 200 years, America would throw off the shackles of religion. And we're actually backsliding on that great mission!
2006-08-10 15:49:00
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answered by cassandra 6
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Well, uh, yeah that's all well and good, but the bottom line is that the majority of the founding fathers were indeed Christian. Jefferson simply includes every denomination under religious freedom because so many of the Christian founders had suffered religious persecution.
Most of the founding fathers were Masons and Masons also express a belief in God. Most western Masonic lodges take oaths on the holy Bible (including the new testament) because that is what has meaning in this society--just as a masonic lodge in say...Saudi Arabia...would take the oath on the Qur'an.
To take only two of the bunch, who obviously had their own beliefs which differed from the majority, and ignore the obvious connection to the Bible and to Freemasonry within the constitution is...well...dishonest and sort of ridiculous.
And although Jefferson was a deist, he had a deep respect for Christ (rewriting the gospels to remove what he wrongly
believed could not be accurate, leaving only Christ's teachings
which he absolutely did believe in, and which are far more
important imho than believing in Christ's divinity, which
even the Catholic Church describes as a "mystery.") So, yeah, the U.S. then had a Christian majority. The U.S. now has a
Christian majority. The U.S. is primarily a Christian nation
that exercises tolerance of all religions because it is the most
forward-thinking nation on earth. Even Israel won't allow new
testaments to be passed out because the religious leadership is terrified of Christianity.
So to answer your questions: No, I don't believe the U.S. was founded on Christianity because that would mean it was
a theocratic nation, but instead I know that the U.S. was
founded on, for the most part, the highest principals of
Judeo-Christianity. And yes, most public shools teach
that Jefferson was indeed a deist and what that is...
in fact the school I went to taught that Franklin leaned
toward deism as well. Funny how Jefferson the deist
couldn't deny the fundemental truth in the moralistic
teachings of Christ, huh?
2006-08-10 16:03:52
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answered by keats27 4
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Yes. The English colonies that separated from English were founded on a Protestant, tolerant of Catholics, religion. This common based religion is called the American Civil Religion which has no denominations.
Obviously the writing of the Declaration of Independent had several drafts and language was changed. Have you read the these earlier drafts to see what Jefferson wrote?
There is a difference between Jesus as the source of liberty and Jesus as a savior. What Jefferson was referring to was a political concept, and if you have studied the Gospels, you would see Jesus is not interested in any political outcome. Basically Jefferson is saying that freedom does not come from Christianity.
Agnostic means that someone does not know (believe) either way. It does not mean that he is excluded from a religion. Again see the American Civil Religion for details.
It is obvious that you do not know the difference between the Declaration on Independence and the US Constitution. Both documents acknowledge a Creator. And if you really want to understand what that term means, examine the American Civil Religion.
On last comment, where was Jefferson baptized?
2006-08-10 16:14:46
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answered by J. 7
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certain, it does set up separation of Church and State. There are 2 themes which try this. a million. the first change 2. Article VI of the style those 2 products interior the style enable for religious freedom, and deny that the authorities set up faith and religious checks be used for get admission to into place of work. Taken at the same time, this signifies that the Church holds no sway over the authorities, that the authorities can now no longer have a state faith, and that human beings of all religions are equivalent lower than the regulation. This sorts a barrier between the church and the state, because of actuality no remember what huge style adherents a church has, no remember how wealthy the church is, or how lengthy that is been there, it has no suitable to effect the affairs of the State.
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Jesus said that an apostasy in Christianity first before His second comming. That apostacy started shortly after the death of the last apostle. Acsually they stsrted comming in even before that . You can find this un the book of Jude. So buy the time that America was established true Christanity had already gone to the dogs. If you check history you will see that Constantine started the Catholic church. He was the first Pope and he was king at the same time.The Chirch was corrupt by this time and all other so called Christian faiths are off shoots of a bad seed.Therefore America could not have been based on the Christian fait because they were not praticing it correctly anyway.
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Well friend,I thought I would put my two cents in. Hope some good came out of this.
2006-08-10 16:02:24
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answered by wbyrnes2008 2
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You are wrong! The United States was founded on Christian principle, althought , Jefferson ,Frnklin and the others were masons , it was a Christian document ,as you can read in part , THAT ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL AND ARE ENDOWED BY THEIR CREATOR etc, I cant remember it all ,but is defenitly a Christian document. The first of its kind that stood the United States out from the other nations as one that had GOD written on its most important document. That the founding fathers words are being read and interpreted improperly in this lunatic era is understandable with people like you twisting the truth to fit your beliefs!
2006-08-10 16:10:25
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George Washington -Anglican Faith
The term Anglican (from medieval Latin ecclesia Anglicana meaning 'the English church') is used to describe the people, institutions, and churches as well as the liturgical traditions and theological concepts developed by the established Church of England, the Anglican Communion and the Continuing Anglican Churches (a loosely affiliated group of independent churches which have seceded from the Anglican Communion as a result of doctrinal and liturgical differences with its various provinces).
The Anglican Communion considers itself to be part of the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church and as being both Catholic and Reformed. For some adherents, it represents a non-papal Catholicism, for others a Protestantism without a dominant figure such as a Luther, Knox, Calvin, or Wesley.[1]. For many Anglicans, self-identity represents some combination of the two. The Communion is a theologically broad and often divergent affiliation of thirty-eight provinces that are in communion with the Archbishop of Canterbury. The Anglican Communion is one of the larger Christian denominations in the world, with approximately 73 million members[1].
The main reason the USA was settled was to have a place where you could worship God without fear of reprisal.Columbus was a man of
faith and learned from the Bible that the Roman Catholic Church was wrong about the earth being flat and earth being the center of the universe.
In Christ in Love,
TJ57
In Christ in Love,
TJ57
2006-08-10 16:26:05
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answered by TJ 57 4
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No, I don't think it matters what faith the founding anyones were, this country was built to be open to all (or is at least finally getting close to that...), so it does not matter, it was not founded on Christianity it was founded on the people and the freedom which should be more important.
2006-08-10 16:05:09
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answered by Indigo 7
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Yes.
Patrick Henry, the patriot the founding father of our country made this statement
"It cannot be emphasized too strongly and too often that this great nation was founded not by religionists but by Christians, not on religions but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. "
James Madison. the fourth president, known as " the father of our constitution" made the following statement;
"We have staked the whole of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God"
2006-08-10 16:02:23
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answered by SeeTheLight 7
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I know that the Supreme Court has, on every wall , 'written scripture' attesting to the belief in Jesus Christ. Our money has " In God We Trust", on it. We swear to God on a Holy Bible before giving testimony in our courts.
Would you rather there be NO belief in Christianity in our country? What a horrible world that would be...think about it!
JUST WHAT POINT ARE YOU TRYING TO MAKE WITH YOUR QUESTION? Would you rather the world be run by people with no morals? People who would not lend a helping hand to another? Just what do you find so wrong with believing in Jesus?
Christians are good people who would certainly help YOU if you needed help. Is that a bad thing?
2006-08-10 16:01:34
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answered by niki-niki-tembo 4
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