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Am I wrong for that? I am a citizen, but the USA makes me sick. Why do people feel the need to force their radical, brain-washed nationalism on me?

2006-08-10 12:18:04 · 24 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government Civic Participation

Um...to the person who can't read: I SAID I'm a citizen. I was born here, and this is the only place I've ever lived. Trust me, I'm trying hard to move somewhere else, don't you worry!
And to True Patriot - thank you for answering, but this is the definition of 'treason':
1. Violation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies.
2. A betrayal of trust or confidence.

Since 2 is a definition, I would allege that the US government has committed treason against me, a good, tax paying citizen, no criminal record and an asset to my community. Hum?

2006-08-10 12:31:28 · update #1

Again, your reasoning is askew, since I haven't been involved in some crazy plot to overthrow the government. If you consider me a traitor, whatever...I can live with that. This is the very essence of my question - attacked by mindless zombie citizens who believe everything and question nothing. I get this all of the time. So, you think it's right to judge?

2006-08-10 12:37:19 · update #2

George, I'm sorry dear... I don't understand your answer.

2006-08-10 12:38:57 · update #3

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Canada is accepting visitors that can become citizens. Very nice people and pretty nice weather in the southern portions. Nova Scotia is lovely. I felt welcome and plan on visiting there again. I wouldn't mind having a summer house along the shore near Halifax. I would wager you would be more comfortable there. Just head north!

2006-08-10 15:29:33 · answer #1 · answered by MotherNature 4 · 0 0

The answer to this question is quite simple, and I would sort of say you know the answer to it as well darling. I live in the UK and I have the same problem as you (not that I would not like it at all). I am from Spain and I have been all over the world. This has given me the chance to make contact with other people and cultures, so for me things are not just either black or white, but please do note the fact that other people have not been given this chance. When you show other people you do not care that much about what they are doing (and you put your money where your mouth is in this) they just get a bit scared. What if there is, after all, a better way to do things in life and you are so hooked on your life stile and personal traits that it is impossible for you to change? Is it not true old habits die hard? Just think about this.

PS. Very well done darling, I do not agree with True Patriot either.

PS. Let me put it this way then (I guess I must have got too deep in it, sorry for this, I am a philosopher). Many a people would say you get hooked on tobacco due nicotine, but they are wrong. What you get hooked on is behaviour, habits, and as I am saying, old habits dye hard. When you quit smoking you are not only kicking a habit out; you are also changing your life stile and this is the thing which is so difficult to leave behind. You can say the same thing about culture and the way people live. It is so difficult a task to try to get people around in this sense, for the way we would live is beyond reason. If you think about it you will probably realize True Patriot is an American fundamentalist, for you would not get him around in this (however hard you should try). If you could possibly show him there are other cultures and peoples who can be happier than those who live in America, he would still say the American way is the best way of living. True Patriot cannot simply leave everything he’s gone through behind and start all over again: he simply would stay put.

2006-08-10 19:34:54 · answer #2 · answered by george 3 · 0 1

Do you hate the country itself or the leadership and government. Speaking out against the leaders and complaining about the government is a freedom you have because many great men and women of this country have fought and died for you to have that freedom. Surely you do not hate the country itself as that makes you the worst type of American and it is considered treason. Hate the government all you want but please show some respect to this great nation from now on.

In law, treason is the crime of DISLOYALTY to one's nation or state. A person who betrays the nation of their citizenship and/or reneges on an oath of loyalty and in some way willfully COOPERATES with an enemy, is considered to be a traitor. Oran's Dictionary of the Law (1983) defines treason as: "...[a]...citizen's actions to help a foreign government overthrow, make war against, or seriously INJURE the [parent nation]." In many nations, it is also often considered treason to attempt or conspire to overthrow the government, even if no foreign country is aided or involved by such an endeavour.

Traitor may also mean a person who betrays (or is accused of betraying) their own political party, family, friends, ethnic group, religion, or other group to which they may belong. Often, such accusations are controversial and disputed, as the person may not identify with the group of which they are a member, or may otherwise disagree with the group leaders making the charge. See, for example, race traitor.

At times, the term "traitor" has been levelled as a political epithet, regardless of any verifiable treasonous action. In a civil war or insurrection, the winners may deem the losers to be traitors. Likewise the term "traitor" is used in heated political discussion – typically as a slur against political dissidents, or against officials in power who are perceived as failing to act in the best interest of their constituents. In certain cases, as with the German Dolchstoßlegende, the accusation of treason towards a large group of people can be a unifying political message.

Figures in history who are renowned for acts of treachery have subsequently had their names become synonymous with the word "traitor". Some examples are Judas, Benedict Arnold, Pétain and Quisling.

If you do emmigrate somewhere else, good luck to you. Hopefully you are resolved in your decision and can make a good life. Take care.

I do not necessarily think you are a traitor. I think the ideal of hating and speaking out against ones countries ideals, and thereby dishonoring the people who live and have lived in it treason. Good luck to you. I hope you live a good, fufilling life somewhere else if you cannot live it here. Just answer me this, what is the biggest reason you want to leave and go somwhere else? You will honor me if you answer it. Take care now.

2006-08-10 19:25:34 · answer #3 · answered by ? 4 · 2 0

Can you provide some specific examples of how you've had nationalism 'forced' on you? Have you been penalized on some way for expressing a certain view ? With the possible exception of being called names (which hardly constitutes a penalty), I'm doubtful. I think it's more likely that you simply disagree with other peoples expression of overt nationalism and prefer to express that in the form of denigration - probably because you have nothing else to offer. Though I do think the flag-waving can get a to be a little much at times, responding to it with your own type of name-calling isn't very productive.

2006-08-10 19:33:14 · answer #4 · answered by Will 6 · 0 0

No, I love the US and what it stands for and the wonderful history it was based on. If it makes you sick seek to improve and find ground that will open and free radical ideology. Nationalisim is a good thing to have just not the loss of self identity. Best wishes on the question.

Regards,
Another Satisfied Citizen =)

2006-08-11 00:34:52 · answer #5 · answered by ionsouljah 1 · 1 0

Girl... I think what are you thinking about is all about the citizen toward the goverment rather then you toward your country. Could you name any country in the earth which have everybody living in that country agreed with their leader? I don't think so. I've been to several country and in each country I always met people who compalining about their goverment. Beliefe me there is no such a thing as a perfect country for everybody in this world. It's all about politics...

2006-08-10 21:08:02 · answer #6 · answered by suprcalyfragylisticxpialidocious 2 · 1 0

You mean the way the Romans forced their way of life on thier conquests?
Or the spanish conquistadors?
Or the Maoist rebels?
Or the Russian Communists?
Or the Cuban Communists?

Just deal. Part of the reality of the world is oppression & propaganda. You can fight against it, but there's no use in pretending it's isolated to the USA.

2006-08-10 19:25:25 · answer #7 · answered by jack b 3 · 2 0

Fro those same reasons I don't like the US. I don't live there and it's not fair with so many that have contributed so significantly to the development of science, arts, sports, social change, revolutions... it's not fair that the right wing bigots take up all the space in the media to portray a country that militates against the same values that gave it its strength.

2006-08-10 19:27:23 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

Well gee... If I believed like that I would move to a much better country like Iran. So.. good by, have fun over there. I'm sure you will be treated just fine.

2006-08-10 19:30:47 · answer #9 · answered by lordkelvin 7 · 1 0

you can always move out...try living in another country for two year...you will beg to come back to america...
A fool gives full vent to his anger,
but a wise man keeps himself under control.

2006-08-10 19:38:25 · answer #10 · answered by turntable 6 · 1 0

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