floyd not guilty?

Question

ive lived in that world so heres how it goes with test 21 days on 10 days off do the cycle for 3 months to have any affect so how could someone that had 8 tests during the tdf and come up neg allof a sudden after the race which he won be pos this by the way from a lab which had 3 people busted in the past for tampering

Answer 1

Not Guilty!!!!!!!!!

Answer 2

Oh my! 21 days on, 10 days off?

I know what that means. That is the scheduling for taking steroids and other "enhancements."

However, an awfully abusive "trainer" bike, such as a largish time trial-ish model plus all you can eat protein will do the same job. A 1 size up Scott Speester plus tons of burgers and eggs will do far more than any drug, and work faster. Yet the drug is probably much less painful than driving yourself "to the wall" desperate and breathless for hours.

So, yes most cyclists do use drugs, and no, it is not a requirement to be competitive--just far less painful.

Is that true?
Well, the "big harsh trainer" (traditional) method plus eating such a volume that it becomes really annoying does not have the high toxic levels of chemicals. However, the chemicals aren't as embarassing or painful as repeatedly falling off the trainer bike, dizzy, shaking, and totally exhausted, nor do they require the high mental energy and fanatical drive--Easier, but not more effective.

It is most likely that the trainer/medic wasn't paying attention. However, once the chemical is inside your body, guilt is certain and fairness does not apply, unless you can prove that someone "poisoned" you. This is part of the sport, like it, or not.

And, it could have been a sloppy mistake. . .
There were many.

One can see some ineptitude in the TDF mechanic's work. Clearly, the bikes weren't using 650 wheels during the hill climbing and Rotor's Q-rings (or similar) were nowhere in sight. The quick uphill blast from these two items are allowed in the TDF. Where were they? Leveraging was present in bike frames (smaller size with a cross fit for a very quick sprint and faster averages), but leveraging of the drivetrains were not present with the exception that many were riding long cranks with "somewhat" compact "double" arrangements.

So if the mechanics can screw up so badly as to knock a whole bunch of riders out of the race in the hills, what about the trainers (medics)?

I mean, it is just plain stupid to put your boys up those kind of hills without the protection of the Ultegra Hill Climber 12-27 (or similar) and 650 wheels, and anything else you can think up. Well, such as combining those with a super-wide, non-indexed "double" (36 or 38 for up, 54 plus for down) and hard center, sticky side tires (cornering) so that your boys can make up any speed average difference on the downhill. Only 3 did anything similar, and the majority of bikes were not optimized for the stages. What the heck?!!! I think it a miracle that we did not see support staff spanked in public by angry riders.

Maybe there were a few spankings because the last stage did have mostly optimized bikes with a lot of front 26mm Panaracer (or similar) and high count, looser-strung front wheels (a specialty product from Zip) optimized to fly over cobblestones. In no way does this make up for nearly killing the boys on the hills in earlier stages.

Maybe the trainers (medics) were just as dumb and neglectful?

Considering the general ineptitude of the TDF support people, maybe Floyd Landis didn't know he took the chemicals?

Answer 3

Tampering can't be ruled out, but it may be hard to prove.

The use of testosterone is pretty common among cyclists. It can be taken in limited levels. This is because the so called synthetic form is generally found in the body after consuming food like soy products. Now you have to eat huge and huge amounts of soy products to get your level up, but because of that possibility it is accepted to have a higher level then you and I would have. The trick is not to take as much as to get above that accepted level.

Almost all cyclists have a testosterone level that is higher then that of the average person and I don't think it is because they eat that much soy products.

In a way you can also compare it with speeding your car in between two traffic control checkpoints, they have to make sure that their level is down at an acceptable level at the right time. So it could have been tampering, but I won't rule out that he did cheat. Then, if so, he is by no means the only one. He has done it in a more careless way though.

Answer 4

If i were you, I would consider rewording your question, because i cant understand it, but i will give you what i think of the situation.

The effort he used on Stage 17 is completely possible and heres why. If you watched stage 17, he was eating and drinking like crazy, and if i kept eating energy gels and bars and use 70 bottles of water, i dont think i would bonk. On top of that, cycling includes strategy, something which he used for the race. It was a predominantly mountain stage, which means it is totally individually powered, no peloton drafting you, except on the short flat before the final mountain where he did lose time. And he is one of the best downhillers in the peloton, whihch means if one of the guys in the front of the peloton arent also one of the best descenders, he is yet again putting time on them. The other contenders didnt want to put out an effort on other climbs besides the last, so they took it easier and went slower and yet again, Floyd lost a little more time on the last climb because he was weaker, but made it up on the decent because he decends better than Satsre. Also, long solo breakaways are exactlly how people won the tour from the beggining to the years of Bernard Hinault, so people were doing this before performance enhancing drugs were used. His coach even said that that is the way he trains, long and solo after stage 17 in the oln post race show.

Epitestosterone, like testosterone can be taken as a drug, which means that you can have high levels of testosterone but a normal ratio. He tested for a suspicous ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone. Now he would have to be so stupid that if he was doping, he forgot to take any epitestosterone the day he knew he was going to be under intesnse speculation because they do make their strategy before the race starts, and you would have to be really stupid to do that. So why wouldn't he, on the day he knew he would undergo intense criticism, forget to take epitestosterone to throw off the test. Most, if not all labs, only do ratio testing on Sample A, and if it is positive, then they do carbon testing on sample B, which tells you whether or not there is synthetic testosterone. I dont htink anyone, especially Floyd, would be that stupid, that if he was doping, forget to take epitestosterone with it, which would cause him to lose his carreer, dignity, place in history, and an inability to support his family, as far as cycling goes. Way too much pressure that if, you were doping, forget to do that.

All i have to say about the French is that cycling to the French and Europeans is like baseball and football in America. If a French baseball player or team came into America and won the World Series and got MVP, i think Americans would be very angry too. Even more so if they did it 7 or 8 times.

In conclusion, the feat he accomplished was absolutley possible, if he was doping, why wouldnt he be taking epitestosterone with it, and cycling is extremelly important to the French. I am not a complete beliver of the French conspiracy theory, but i do see it as a possibility. i have reason to belive Floyd didnt dope because of what i stated above.

Answer 5

No idea. And why don't they test any of the other samples. Perhaps the earlier one and the one after the one that came up positive. So how would just that one come up positive???

Go figure.

Answer 6

If there is a way to cheat in any pro sport, my guess is that at least 75% of them are.