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I presume that he fell before Adam and Eve as to why he appeared as a serpent to them or as I am told. However where everyone points me to in the bible where he fell it also says, when Satan fell he made the earth desolate and took prisoners.

So if he fell before tempting Eve, which prisoners did he take and was Eden protected from him making the earth desolate?

I take it that he must have fallen and was cast to earth on one of the six days of creation in order to be here to tempt Eve in time.

2006-08-10 07:09:30 · 20 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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If you read in Genesis, you will see that God says to them RE populate the earth. There were people there before Adam and Eve. I'm guessing those were who the devil took.

2006-08-10 07:15:42 · answer #1 · answered by redeye.treefrog 3 · 2 1

You are correct that he fell before Adam and Eve but you are reading something really wrong if you are reading he took prisoners. I don't know where you get that one but it does not say that in the NKV. Rev. 12:7-10 Nowhere does it say the earth was desolate or that he took any prisoners. It tells of him that is the one that deceives the whole earth but that is just telling it in the way that he is already here and doing his work. Better get another translation or read it again. God did not put him here to tempt Adam and Eve even though he did. They did have a choice to turn away from sin but they chose to sin instead. That is their own decision and responsibility, not God's and not Satans. Just like we have a choice when we are tempted to either follow God or go with Satan.

2006-08-10 07:40:30 · answer #2 · answered by ramall1to 5 · 0 0

There is much spiritual truth and symbolism in the Bible and one reads the Bible with Faith and with the help of the Holy Spirit, if you are a Christian, and only then can you comprehend much of it. Whether or not the days mentioned were literal 24 hour days or reflective of periods of time I can't or will not say at this time. The fact that Satan, a former powerful Angel, fell to earth is evidence of his rebellion and disobedience. As for taking captive and making desolate that doesn't have to be applied to complete earth or mean that there were areas that he was restricted from. As for who he took captive or other imagery I would not want to guess however I do have faith that Satan rebelled and was then cast down and that he retains much of the power he had as an Angel and does effect mankind as well as having taken other angels with him that since became demons. Remember that Satan, Angels, God etc are not human or physical beings but exist in a spiritual world that co-exist around the world we live in now. Also unlike humans they are eternal creatures just as the spirit within you is an eternal creation. The Bible, by necessity, cannot be a chronological record of every event from conception of time to now and in the future but we, through faith, accept what it tells us about certain things and persons. Faith fills in the voids where we have questions for sometimes we just have to accept that it is not humanly possible to comprehend everything that takes place or how it happens.

2006-08-10 07:21:28 · answer #3 · answered by alagk 3 · 0 0

I have never heard what you are speaking of.

Satan and his angels were cast out of heaven to earth. Yes, they are here, but no one was his human prisoner unil Adam fell from grace in the garden.

Once Adam fell, all mankind became a prisoner to Satan.

By God's grace...some are released.

As far as which day Satan was cast to earth....we don't know.

In fact, I believe there was time before the earth began. I believe the six days of creation were not the beginning of time as we know it. I believe the six days mentioned are for us to understand the earth...but perhaps God created Satan and his fallen angels prior to the earth being formless and void.

Adam and Eve may have live a very long time in the garden before Satan was there. We just don't know.

2006-08-10 07:24:52 · answer #4 · answered by Red-dog-luke 4 · 0 0

This is a good question. Satan was cast down from heaven because he wanted to exalt himself above the throne of God. This occured before Adam and Eve's existence. However, Satan was not only cast down by himself but with his followers. Him and his followers built cities while in the earth. There scriptures which support there were cities here in the earth before Adam and Eve. These scriptures also support the fact that God turned these cities upside down before setting up the garden of Eden. God told Adam and Eve to go and "replinish" the earth. Replinish means to "refill". So there was some kind of race of beings here before they were. As for Adam, he was a spiritual being in flesh. God had given him and Eve authority over all things including the devil. It was Adam's job to exercise authority over the devil and drive him out of the garden. Why he did not exercise that authority I do not know.

2006-08-10 07:33:02 · answer #5 · answered by super saiyan 3 6 · 0 0

The Bible is just a man-made play script, with several actors God, Devil, Jesus, Satan, Adam, Eve etc, and of course some intriguing imaginary places like Heaven, Hell, Purgatory and Limbo.

I certainly don’t believe in the Bible and I doubt any reasonably intelligent person would either. However, if you view the Bible as a man-made play script, with several actors God, Devil, Jesus, Satan, Adam, Eve, Noah, and so on, then you can certainly start to see a clever interwoven plot, that the audience is unaware of. It’s really just a drama thriller with clever twists.

You see, if you seriously think about it in an unbiased manner, then clearly the actor God in the Bible could really be the Devil, and the audience (religious believers) are being sucked into being the bad guys, who then use religion to get everyone fighting each other.

On the other hand, the more intelligent audience (Atheists) spot the plot and try their best to teach believers that this is just nonsense, stop getting sucked in. Some people have over time decided that the play is real. That's very sad.

God is just Satan in sheep’s clothing. For all you believers, sorry I’m not one of them, how do you know that the God you believe in, and the Bible you believe and follow wasn’t actually the work of Satan. How do you know that it wasn’t Satan that created the Earth, Adam, Eve and all that jazz?

How do you know that Satan didn’t conquer and defeat God, then came down pretending to be God, got millions believing in religion, fighting and killing each other, just because it’s fun for him? What evidence do you have to show that the God in the Bible wasn’t in fact Satan in disguise? The answer is straight forward. If there was any truth to the Bible at all, and the chance of that is totally remote, then God is the Devil, just think about it for a while.

2006-08-10 07:13:28 · answer #6 · answered by Brenda's World 4 · 0 3

In ancient Jewish tradition Satan is simply an angel doing the work that God assigned to Satan to do.

The word Satan means challenger. With the idea of Satan challenging us, or tempting if you will. This description sees Satan as the angel who is the embodiment of man's challenges. This idea of Satan works closely with God as an integral part of God plan for us. His job is to make choosing good over evil enough of a challenge so that it becomes clear to us that there can be only one meaningful or logical choice.

Contrast this to Christianity, which sees Satan as God's opponent. In Jewish thought, the idea that there exists anything capable of setting itself up as God's opponent would be considered polytheistic or setting up the devil to be an equally powerful polarity to god or a demigod.

Oddly, proof for The Christian satan/devil mythology is supposedly found in the ancient Jewish texts that were borrowed to create the bible. One can’t help but wonder how Christians came up with such a fantastically different interpretation of Gods assistant Satan in their theology.

Other hints about Satan’s role in human relations can be seen if you look at the name Lucifer. It meaning in the original tongue translates as Light bearer or light bringer. Essentially the bringer of enlightenment. The temptations of the Satan idea bring all of us eventually into Gods light. Hardly the Evil entity of Christian mythology.

Love and blessings
don

2006-08-10 15:06:59 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I think you are referring to Lucifer but I can not be sure since you did not list the verses. Anyway Lucifer was the King of Babylon and not any being called satan. Lucifer is identified in the narrative, but not with a rebel angel. It is explicitly stated: "Take up this proverb2 against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased!" (vs. 4). Satan is simply a word that mean adversary and is never any physical being. The tempting in the Garden of Eden was the serpent not a fallen angel any other argument is simply inferred.

2006-08-10 07:15:29 · answer #8 · answered by malisimo 3 · 0 2

Don't try to understand everything that it says in the Bible. I was like you before, trying to understand every detail. But God's work is way too great and complicated at times. So just have faith and believe. If you have a question that's bothering you, ask a priest or someone that is educated on these stuff. Don't listen to people that are trying to convince you that the Bible is just a story with different characters. See? this is why i say talk to someone that KNOWS the truth. GOD BLESS YOU :)

2006-08-10 07:16:21 · answer #9 · answered by Mizz Clever16 2 · 1 1

The call Lucifer takes position once contained in the Scriptures and in straightforward words in some variations of the Bible. for instance, the King James version renders Isaiah 14:12: “How paintings thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!” The Hebrew word translated “Lucifer” ability “shining one.” The Septuagint makes use of the Greek word meaning “bringer of break of day.” subsequently, some translations render the unique Hebrew “morning huge call” or “Daystar.” yet Jerome’s Latin Vulgate makes use of “Lucifer” (undemanding bearer), and this expenses for the creation of that element period in diverse variations of the Bible. who's that this Lucifer? The expression “shining one,” or “Lucifer,” is found in what Isaiah prophetically commanded the Israelites to pronounce as a “proverbial saying hostile to the king of Babylon.” as a effect, it truly is element of a saying by and massive directed on the Babylonian dynasty. That the outline “shining one” is given to a guy and under no circumstances to a spirit creature is further considered with the help of the fact: “all the way down to Sheol you'd be further.” Sheol is the easy grave of mankind—no longer an section occupied with the help of devil the devil. as well to, those seeing Lucifer further into this condition ask: “is this the guy that replaced into agitating the earth?” obviously, “Lucifer” refers to a human, now to not a spirit creature.—Isaiah 14:4, 15, 16.

2016-11-23 19:36:03 · answer #10 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

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