And how would you know what the devil's face looks like?
The face on shroud of Turin looks a heckava lot like Osama bin Laden, by the way.
2006-08-10 01:58:43
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answered by Sweetchild Danielle 7
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It's called coincidence... and allow me to point out that you are seeing pattern where none exists.
"We as humans are pattern seeking creatures" --Michael Shermer
When you see an elephant or a whale in a cloud do you pay any special attention to that shape? You have a vested emotional interest in the idea of Satan, so when you see something that reminds you of that idea you draw a very serious conclusion. What makes this cloud shape real and the elephant or whale just a shape?
Secondly, i believe that quote you cited is Nostradamus? Do you realize how vague that statement is? The reason the quatrains are taken so seriously is because they are vague enough to be applied to most anything. They don't prophesies anything at all. They are reverse prophecy, they only predict something after the fact. In applying the word "brothers" to the "buildings" you are making a stretch. It would be closer if it were "The twins of one nation shall fall" but this still wouldn't be a prophecy.
I'm sorry, you're mistaken.
2006-08-10 02:09:23
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answered by ChooseRealityPLEASE 6
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People can read too much into things that are not there. People *want* to believe in justification for events that are far too tragic to bear, events that impacted everyone on earth. It's easier to personify the combined emotion and horror from that global event than it is to actually deal with those emotions engendered. With the advent of computers, its easy to "render" photos digitally to *appear* as abnormal and subsequently to place some devillish figure in the images.
In experiments I did in "autosuggestive thought", I took several photographs of cloud formations over a mountain over the course of several days. Some were volcanic in appearance, where the setting sun gave the clouds a reddish-orange glow to it and some were of the same mountain during the day, where the clouds appeared dark and ominous. I then gave those photos to 10 people, who first studied the cloud formations without any prior information. Each of the 10 people *knew* that the photos were of cloud formations over a mountain. Added to the equation were "suggestions" that there was a face in the cloud formations and those same 10 people *looked* for those faces. Some actually found images that *could* have been face-formations. With a little more information and an indication as to *where* the face would be - in this case the face of a bearded man - 50% of the experimentees thought they *could* see the face formed in the clouds. They were then asked to take the photo that held the clearest impression of that face (to them) and show their friends and family, logging how many of them actually "saw" the face in the clouds. Around 75% of all of those that were shown the photos and where the face supposedly appeared were convinced that there *was* a face-formation of a bearded man there.
A member of my family, who was rather religious, took a trip on an airplane and took some photos from the window (this was before certain regulations were in effect). In the clouds, she was convinced that she could see the face of Jesus. Other family members *could* see the same face there, but *only* at her indication.
When you have such high emotions as those engendered by some particularly destructive natural disasters or events such as 9/11, it takes one person to believe, then others will start to see the same thing, and the conspiracy theories will begin as a means of vindication or justification, including searching for references in "prophetic" works, such as the Bible, the Quoran or Nostradamus's quatrains, which can apply to so many different things. Eventually, the images/references will start to fit.
The "two brothers of one nation" could refer to the Twin Towers in New York, but then again could refer to the twin towers in Tel Aviv. If you also consider that Nostradamus could have been writing about his own turbulent times, but needed to obfuscate the authorities since he couldn't write about it directly. The "two brothers of one nation" could apply to the leaders during the French Revolution, or it could imply the fighting between the "brother nations" (north vs south) during the American Civil War. See my point? Misrepresentation becomes misinterpretation and there is no way to corroborate the information, only to correlate *some* things to imagery or verses and passages and quatrains.
2006-08-10 02:37:35
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answered by Companion Wulf 4
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First off... you haven't referenced the source of that verse. Nostradamus? Hell... he could have been talking about Romulus and Remus... or the Owen Brothers...
Second... the image of the devil in the clouds has already been proven to be a hoax... it's a Photoshopped image...
But, lets say it WAS true... how do you know that it's the face of the devil? How do YOU know what the devil looks like? We don't... we don't know what Jesus looked like... but we have an artists rendering from 150 years ago, and we've all taken it as a standard.
Heck... the image we know as Santa Claus was invented by an artist for Coca-Cola...
Get a grip.
2006-08-10 02:00:30
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answered by Village Idiot 5
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The end of the age is coming soon. In Daniel, prophecy is given where the king of the north attacks Israel in the end times. Iran has said publicly it wants to wipe Israel 'off the face of the map'; Iran's biggest ally is Russia. Further, if you consider the parable of the fig tree in Matthew, the fig tree is a traditional symbol of Israel (even in Jesus' time on earth).
Jesus said that when you see the fig tree in full bloom, you will know the time is near, and that 'this generation' will not pass away until all things have been fulfilled. Israel became a sovereign nation in 1948, so anyone born since 1948 will likely see Jesus' Second Coming!
2006-08-10 02:07:59
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answered by Me in Canada eh 5
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the "face" may have been a hoax, I don't remember for sure. Prophecies have been marked as true time and again. Revelations is shown, fairly accurately, to be related to the rule of Nero in Rome, not an actual end times prophesy.
2006-08-10 02:01:27
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answered by John J 6
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It wasn't a face. Sometimes people see faces in very odd things, clouds and such. What Bruce said though, was very unkind and un-Christ like. Shame on you Bruce. You are the reason Christians get picked on. You say you are a Christian, yet your actions don't prove that.
2006-08-10 02:09:45
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answered by sunny 3
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Two brothers of one nation shall fall... And what makes you think that has anything to do with airplanes running into buildings? You're making too much stew out of one oyster.
2006-08-10 01:59:42
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answered by flyersbiblepreacher 4
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with this verse
" Two brothers of one nation shall fall"
this verse could also mean this:
well islam and christianity are like 2 brothers. they both came from common ancesstor abraham(pbuh) and furthermore adam and eve(pbuh)
and so jesus and muhammed (pbut) are also brothers in faith of God. they both preached the same thing, so as to, GOD IS ONE, do not associate partners with him.
both prophets have been blessed wif holy books of guidance. thus guess that they r one and together.
well islam and chritianity r 2 kid brothers who have had a snap during the arguement, and r fighting silly over the same candy and god willing this will get over soon.
may Allah bless us all and shower us with His mercy and guidance
2006-08-10 01:58:47
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answered by marissa 5
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I'm so glad I finally broke from all that superstition and ignorance.
Maybe it is talking about my losing two dollars playing the lottery.
There are no valid bible prophecies, as you so clearly demonstrate.
2006-08-10 02:02:27
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answered by Left the building 7
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