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1 & 2. u follow the ten commandments because they make you a better person, and the stronger your faith in jesus, the more u want to follow them, he died for those sins but he wants us to try to follow them,
and he sent jesus down to prove the miracles, and to die for our sins,
3 yea sum sins r worse than others but lying is very bad and its what causes all the curruption on this planet anyways,
4 my belief isnt sick and your lucky i idnt file abuse, so you like the belief better that we came from apes???? and once we die, thats it, oh yeah your belief is real great...
and if you except him, he'll forgive you, but most murders aren't christians anyways...does that tell u somethin, most murders dont believe in jesus,
5 i was raised to believe in jesus and i didnt turn out bad, we just say that everyone sins, and if they pray when they o sin or in the evening praying baout the sins they have committed, that helps them recognize the sins so they wont do it as much.
6 believing in after life takes away from this life???? wat?? the after life is eternity and i want to work on that sum and i believe in jesus and god, and i hav a very fulfilled life
7. but hasnt it??? yes, the world is getting worse and worse,
8. um .... yea. the money we give to church is used to tell others about jesus when we have bible schools at my church we spend alot of our money getting buses to pick up ppl so they can come to church and it also goes to help out ppl in the church that are having hard times and for missionaries..
2006-08-10 01:46:47
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answer #1
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answered by Anonymous
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Hi, I think you need serious help. You sound so bitter for all the wrong reasons. All the 8 points you laid out "cannot hold water" and have too much of flaws.
1. Jesus came not to break the law (the 10 commandment is one of them), but to fulfill the law.
2. God the Father is not the SkyDaddy and Jesus Christ is not a homo alrite. In order to "go to heaven" like what you've just said, you need to come to true repentance and not just say / feel sorry about what you've done. You need to have Christ in you, only then can you "go to heaven".
3. Since when is there such a thing - no sin is greater than the other? Show me the Scriptural references.
4. God will not forgive us for almost anything that we do. We first need to forgive others and then repent of your sins genuinely. We also cannot live in sin after that. Should we sin all the time? No!Then what's the point of having God the Father sending His Son to die for our sins?
5. We don't teach children that we're all born bad. We admonish them according to the Scriptures in the right way.
6 and 7. The life lived here on earth is equally as important as the afterlife. How we live our lives here determines our afterlife. What choices we make and what decisions we take affects what's going to happen in the afterlife.
8. It was never the intention for the church for the homeless to go on buying drugs.
2006-08-10 01:56:26
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answered by dt_aiying 2
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1. He didn't die for us to be able to break the 10 commandments. He died so that we might have eternal life through salvation and a sanctified life reverencing His sacrifice.
2. Jesus wasn't a "homo". He chose celibacy as another aspect of the perfection He had to attain and maintain so that He could qualify to be the "supreme sacrifice".
3. In God's eyes it's not! Consider Revelation 21:8. "And the fearful and unbelieveing and abominable, and sorcerers, whoremongers, idolaters, and all those who loveth and maketh a lie shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone which is the second death."
4. God can forgive almost anything, but as I said earlier when the sin is also a crime such as incest, that person still has to pay the penalty of the law. It's not as simple as saying "God forgive me".
5. We teach our children that we're born bad, but we ALSO teach them about salvation and the importance of embracing it as we grow older and understand more. Consider the Scripture that says, "Train up a child in the way it SHOULD go, when it grows old, it will not depart".
6. What evidence do you have to support this statement? We can still have a good life as Christians. We don't need to be "of the world" to have a good time and enjoy the beauty of this world. What you're saying here is similar to saying that just because I'm a Christian, I can't enjoy going fishing or something like that.
7. What evidence do you have of this statement? The Scripture clearly says that in the end times, "Evil men and seducers would wax worse and worse" meaning that there would be more temptations out there to make things worse and worse for the world in general. It doesn't mean that people that are truly striving to be better spiritually and physically are simply going to give up. If so, then Christ's sacrifice was truly a tragic mistake and there'd be no one left!
8. We can't force the homeless to change their ways; only God can do that! Don't pin the listlessness of the homeless on the Church! We're taught that we earn our living "by the sweat of our face" like God told Adam and Eve to do when he cursed the ground after having to kick them out of the Garden of Eden. We help people try to get back on their feet; we don't lend ourselves to their laziness. We try to discern the difference and extend a hand to those who want to help themselves. The Scripture says, "Go ye to the ant, sluggard (lazy person). Learn her ways and be wise". Bad things happen to good people. Not everyone that's homeless is lazy or misusing what little they do have....
2006-08-10 02:02:07
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answered by bigvol662004 6
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I have many problems with Christianity. But your outright hostility and negativity is painful and your logic is childish, immature, and hateful. Grow up and quit bashing other people's religions.
In response:
1) By your logic, just because your parents will love you even if you and forgive you even if you screw up and break the rules of their house, that means they shouldn't have rules?
2) I can tell you're very intolerant of criminals. They're people, too. People can and do change their lives and become better people. Have a problem with homosexuals, too? Christ wasn't supposedly a homosexual. And even if he was, why are you so intolerant? Afraid of them for some reason? Yeah, you're a real great judge of other people's morals.
3) According to Christian doctrine, that's right. Disobeying God is disobeying God. Period. Not saying that one doesn't have a greater effect than the other on earth, but it's all the same. It's about obedience to God's will, not about murder being just as okay as something simple.
4) God will only forgive if you are truly sorry and have changed your ways and honestly repented. If someone who's raped their children has actually done this... well, there you go. They deserve it. Just because their mistake was worse than most people's doesn't mean they're excluded from ever being forgiven. You're incredibly intolerant to think that a person should be forever hated into eternity simply because they screwed up once in a mortal life. God doesn't just wipe away your sins automagically. You have to earn it by honest repentence.
5) Not all Christians believe that we're "born bad". Some believe that we're born pure and innocent and good. Depends on the denomonation. And even those that do follow "we're all born bad" typically don't turn out to be bad because they believe it. Sorry. Most either turn into normal people who don't have fanatical beliefs, or else turn fanatical about "being good" to make up for that innate flaw.
6) Only if you choose to think that way. That's up to the individual.
7) Wrong again. Most Christians try very hard to change the world, because that's what their God instructs them to do. Maybe it'd just make /you/ not even try, but you seem the lazy, "I don't give a rat's ***" type anyway.
8) Bashing on the homeless now? You're more intolerant than most Christians, and that's hard to do. Not all homeless people are homeless because they're druggies. Believe it or not, most are homeless because LIFE IS FREAKING EXPENSIVE. Many have medical conditions that prevent them from holding a steady job. Our welfare system is inadequate and overrun.
I'm not a Christian. I don't believe any of their theology. But this post of yours is nothing but hatred and viciousness to people of ALL walks of life. Grow up.
2006-08-10 02:17:09
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answered by Katia 3
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Your hostility is overwhelming, but I refuse to respond in kind.
1) Christ simplified the ten commandments to two: love the lord with all you are, and love your neighbor as yourself. this was done for two reasons. The first is so that we cannot play games as to which sin is worse (your issue 3).
2) Christ taught us to love as He loved, which was without condemanation. Yes, those crimes are evil, but they shall pay for them on earth. Ask yourself this: do you want to pay for each of your sins in the eteranl?
4) Yes God will forgive anything as long as we have a repenteant heart and except the consequences. Most are willing to a but not b.
5) When I teach i do not emphasize the "born bad" but the simple fact that we are forgiven. That there is a better way. That by putting your life in the hands of Christ, you can avoid the sinful life in favor of a good life. Just imagine how much better your life would be if you never had to worry abou tgetting caught in a lie.
6) believing in the afterlife PROMOTES real life. see above.
7) sounds like the perfect reason to make things better.
8)Lay off the homeless.
2006-08-10 01:47:29
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answered by jayjesusfreak 2
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If someone wants to believe in God or a greater power what is so wrong with that? Just because Christians can be forgiven doesn't mean that they have an excuse to do horrific crimes. They will pay a price for all their sins when they stand in front of God. I fully believe in God and I still want to improve life here on earth for whatever time I spend here. I don't just sit idly by wait for Jesus to return. I don't teach my children that they were born bad either. I teach them right from wrong just the same as other parents do. They do go to church with my husband and I but they are free to decide for themselves if the want to believe in God. The ten commandments are still to be followed today. It doesn't matter that Jesus dies for us and we can be forgiven we are to try to not sin. If you have a relationship with God you won't want to rape children or even look at them in anyway other than love. Our church doesn't just give food away to homeless. They will try to help them in all area's of there lives. If they are involved in drugs they will help them get off the drugs by going to a rehab or if they don't want to change then they are told when you are ready for change come back then.
2006-08-10 01:48:18
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answered by firefly 3
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Ok...so whats your fracking problem then...you trying to get us to be Muslim or Atheist or whatever???your no fracking better than Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell (and comparing you to these fu*ckers should be insult enough)!!!
I aint asking you to convert or anything...but nonetheless your question begs a response.
1 & 2 - Humans break commandments...thats true enough. That doesnt mean we should do away with them altogether (would you deal away with laws just because people break em???). And I agree with the other guy who said God is no dupe. We have to work for our forgiveness and our reward of heaven (you were probably listening to Falwell...he says bullsh*t like this all the time).
3 & 4 - Related to 1 & 2...He does forgive...but that doesnt mean that your gonna get away scot free: There is such a thing as Hell and the End of Days remember. And again the rapist has to repent to earn his forgivness. All sins are horrible but there are degrees of evilness to sins (some Christians again cant seem to get this part)
5 - This is probably more stupid than the others...you immediately assume that these people are so stupid and moronic that they cant tell the diff between good and bad. Even so thats why Teachers and Parents exist...to guide them to the right path.
6 - One of three things that I remotely agree with...some Christians are so self-absorbed with the idea of an Afterlife but they just laze around like idiots. Again...to get the reward of Heaven...you have to do good in your REAL life NOW!!!. Lazing around or doing evil wont promise you a good afterlife. And when your real life is up...what then eh???
7 - Another thing I seem to agree with, related to 6...some people are plain stupid...but again Christ does not reward lazy people.
8 - The last thing I agree with (duh its the last)...giving food away isnt necessarily bad...but not helping these people get jobs and other really important stuff is worse...makes them lazy and useless (again related to 7 and 6).
2006-08-10 02:21:35
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answered by betterdeadthansorry 5
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BIBLE: KJV according to sourses:
What does God call them? Preach love to them? Lets see what God says, to do with them.
You have unbeliever's, Chaff, Scoffers.
An Atheist is a "scoffer". The WORD of God, clearly tells, ATHEISTS are filhty rags they are, and to stay away from them, and avoid them. We are NOT to plant seeds. God knows it is useless and that is why he tells us, "You stand firm against them" ( Jer.17:8 14:1 Iah 44:4) You disassociate them completely. Any Believer that does not abide in God's own Word, does not know God, according to God Himself.
Atheists are "chaff" A simile of the wretchedness of the wicked. Chaff is carried away by the lightest wind, and it's removal brings about cleansing by extracting what is utterly useless. (Ruth 1:22). They will NOT stand in the judgment. They will NOT be able to withstand God's wrath when He judges.( Pslams 76:7 Exra 9:15). This is not my opinion, this is God's very own Words, in the Bible. You know, the BIble? The same Bible atheist scholars quote. There is a reason God, said this. Psalms.1.1-3 Jer. 17:8 14:1 12. 1-2 18:9-10 Prov1.10-19 (vs 5) scoffers:(atheists) those who ridicule God and definatley reject His Law. Prov 1.:22 Ruth 1:22 Jer 18:7 (pull down-destroy) 1:10 (evil-calamity) 18:11
Pslams 1:
godly wisdom here, declare the final outcome of the two "ways". The paths of "sinners" (unbelievers) and the "way of the righteous. he speaks progressively of assoociation with the ungodly and participation in they're ungodly ways.
God said it. End of Story. Jesus Himself said "Let the dead bury they're dead".
Use all the Internet and Dictionaries they want to and call themselves anything they wish. God "defined" what they are by His own Holy Word.
They can hang a dog tag* around they're neck in the pits if hell itself and separate each other by name categorically.
God's Word said it. By God's definition. They are nothing but filthy rags. There is NO opinion.
Hate? Where do you get hate? If God's TRUTH is hate too you, then, so be it. You and God, can and will discuss the means of your scriptural interpretation, consisting with a man-made defacto on a motion of plea bargin I guess. I dunno.
I W I L L . P R A Y . F O R . A L L . A T H E I S T S. :)
2006-08-12 05:07:50
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answered by Anonymous
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You sound like a very lonely person.
You have alot of pain in your comments.
Most of it isnt coherent or intelligent enough to answer.
1.If Jesus is imaginary, then why are your panties in a bunch about him? Which parts of the 10 commandments do you want to rewrite or reject? They have compliments in most societies in matters concerning property, marriage, and killing.
6. Jesus preached the kingdom is here. The fact that it continues is a bonus. Mature Christians dont sit back and wait for death.
2006-08-10 01:33:47
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answered by Anonymous
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I once knew a guy who replaced right into a Christian after having been an atheist for various years. besides the undeniable fact that, he later became back to atheism. I wasn't residing interior an similar city as he replaced into at the same time as he did this and it replaced into in the previous I grew to change into an atheist, so i am going to't say what his reasoning replaced into.
2016-11-23 19:06:28
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answered by vogt 4
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