Atheists don't you need to learn some real logic?

Question

You based your conclusion on reasoning and you claim that reasoning is based on logic. What is your so-called logic based on by which you deny Jesus? It's dependant on some axioms and hypothesis. You are actually blindly believing those hypothesis. But did you ever consider
those secular hypothesis? They can't be proved. For example:
hypothesis no-1:
A cannot be equal to B and not equal to B simultanously.
But this hypothesis is faulty bcoz--A just not only change in space
but in time also. So it can even not be identified with itself in changing space-time, but it might be B in some instant--if B is actually a space-time state of A. So, ur hypotheses are incomplete.
example of Biblical Hypothesis:
(1)True word of God. Proved by all it's miracles, winesses and predictions.(2) God can be in three states simultanously and it is proved.

Answer 1

What are you babbling about?

Answer 2

1. I have never seen a miracle, and the so called miracles of the Bible happened so long ago and were recorded 30-150 years after the fact that they cannot be trusted.

2. How is it proven that God can be in three states simultaneously? I've never seen this, and have only heard of this in the Bible. Faith is not fact.

And hypotheses are there to be proven either correct or wrong. A hypothesis is not automatically correct.

From Merriam-Webster's Dictionary:

1 a : an assumption or concession made for the sake of argument b : an interpretation of a practical situation or condition taken as the ground for action
2 : a tentative assumption made in order to draw out and test its logical or empirical consequences
3 : the antecedent clause of a conditional statement


Having no "God" (no Creator of the world and all life) makes sense to me just as having a God (the Creator) does to you, so lay off.

Answer 3

Hey Babbleman,

Did you know that excrement can be in all three states simultaneously?

By the way, have you ever looked up the word "simultaneously"? I suppose not, since it is not in the only book you have ever read. It means "at the same time". So all your babble about space-time is meaningless. The hypothesis takes time into account.

Answer 4

i have no love for christians who think they are smart when they are not bright at all. atheist like most non-christians have "read" the bible and find no truth in it once so ever and the sad fact is most of the bible is written "after" the facts that have already come to pass just like most of the world history has already passed. the jesus stories in the NT where written 150 to 200 years "after" the life of jesus. why do you think that we as non christians deny your god and jesus? we do it because there is no valid history that proves the life and times of anyone written in the bible. christianity will fall some day and all you christians wont be around anymore and i will be the one laughing at all the people who believed in the lie for so long

Answer 5

ok bibleman riddle me this with your logic... how does a creator create a person with original sin make that person want sin all its life and at the end of its life punish it for the sin it was created to want and then call himself perfect and unconditionally loving? hmmm faulty logic somewhere in that idiotic mix. go scare some other little children with your boogyman/satan (hell) tactics some of us seem to be a little more mature to fall for that clap trap!!!!

i think it interesting that a man would be jealous to allow any other beliefs a woman would not so i am glad our creator the goddess our mother nature will allow sheep idiots to think that jesus, holy spirit and god created it all and answer your prayers when its her the whole time. especially since absolutely every aspect of the christian religion is plagerized from a pagan source! the holidays, the ritual mass, the stories and beliefs were ALL originally pagan from another source only a few names changed. anyone sheep stupid enough to believe in the english version without reading the hebrew original would fall for the bullshit lies that your god has seemed to tell you in that book

Answer 6

If you think the law of identity is invalid, you need to study logic more before you go criticizing.

For what it's worth, it goes without saying that when you say A=A, it means at a given moment. No logician would argue that A(now)=A(30 years ago).

Try studying actual logic, not just the mind games your religious books give you to play with the heads of the credulous.

Answer 7

ok, i'm attempting to keep a immediately face the following, yet the following is going: you're saying: A won't be able to be equivalent to B and under no circumstances equivalent to B simultanously. then you definately say: yet this hypothesis is defective bcoz--A merely no longer in straightforward words substitute in area yet in time also. yet you're incorrect--the hypothesis isn't defective because it states obviously that it's not a probability for A to equivalent/no longer equivalent B concurrently. because concurrently ability fantastically "at the same time" it PRECLUDES a substitute of A over the years. A will be equivalent to, or no longer equivalent to, B yet no longer both on the time--no matter if A differences from one state to a special so quickly it won't be able to be percieved, it remains no longer concurrently both. religious followers could end attempting to pervert/distort technology to prop up their shaky agendas--you merely finally end up searching stupid.

Answer 8

What sickens me the most is that you atheist can't get it into you thick skull, there is GOD. You fools keep saying there is no physical evidence. If you call the bible superstitious, then you are 20 years late.There are lot of physical proof. The trees , The Sun , the MOON. we can't just come to earth just like that. Just like someone created the CARS, the airplanes we move in.May be you should go to Israel one day. Oh it's true there is GOD. Lots of famous scientist are atheist Albert Einstein, Steven jay Gould, James Watson. to mention a few. it's a pity they would wind up in HELL. It's only fools who don't believe in God.
However, the existence of God cannot be proven or disproved. The Bible even says that we must accept by faith the fact that God exists, “And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to Him must believe that He exists and that He rewards those who earnestly seek Him” (Hebrews 11:6). If God so desired, He could simply appear and prove to the whole world that He exists. But if He did that, there would be no need for faith. "Then Jesus told him, 'Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed'” (John 20:29).



That does not mean, however, that there is not evidence of God’s existence. The Bible declares, “The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of His hands. Day after day they pour forth speech; night after night they display knowledge. There is no speech or language where their voice is not heard. Their voice goes out into all the earth, their words to the ends of the world” (Psalm 19:1-4). Looking at the stars, understanding the vastness of the universe, observing the wonders of nature, seeing the beauty of a sunset – all of these things point to a Creator God. If these were not enough, there is also evidence of God in our own hearts. Ecclesiastes 3:11 tells us, “…He has also set eternity in the hearts of men…” There is something deep down in our beings that recognizes that there is something beyond this life and someone beyond this world. We can deny this knowledge intellectually, but God’s presence in us and through us is still there. Despite all of this, the Bible warns us that some will still deny God’s existence, “The fool says in his heart, ‘There is no God.’” (Psalm 14:1). Since over 98% of people throughout history, in all cultures, in all civilizations, on all continents believe in the existence of some kind of God – there must be something (or someone) causing this belief.



In addition to the Biblical arguments for God’s existence, there are logical arguments. First, there is the ontological argument. The most popular form of the ontological argument basically uses the concept of God to prove God’s existence. It begins with the definition of God as “that than which no greater can be conceived.” It is then argued that to exist is greater than to not exist, and therefore the greatest conceivable being must exist. If God did not exist then God would not be the greatest conceivable being - but that would contradict God's very definition. A second is the teleological argument. The teleological argument is that since the universe displays such an amazing design, there must have been a Divine designer. For example, if earth were even a few hundred miles closer or further away from the sun, it would not be capable of supporting much of the life it currently does. If the elements in our atmosphere were even a few percentage points different, every living thing on earth would die. The odds of a single protein molecule forming by chance is 1 in 10243 (that is a 10 followed by 243 0’s). A single cell is comprised of millions of protein molecules.



A third logical argument for God’s existence is called the cosmological argument. Every effect must have a cause. This universe and everything in it is an effect. There must be something that caused everything to come into existence. Ultimately, there must be something “un-caused” in order to cause everything else to come into existence. That “un-caused” something is God. A fourth argument is known as the moral argument. Every culture throughout history has had some form of law. Everyone has a sense of right and wrong. Murder, lying, stealing, and immorality are almost universally rejected. Where did this sense of right and wrong come from if not from a holy God?



Despite all of this, the Bible tells us that people will reject the clear and undeniable knowledge of God and instead believe a lie. Romans 1:25 declares, “They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator - who is forever praised. Amen.” The Bible also proclaims that people are without excuse for not believing in God, “For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities - His eternal power and divine nature - have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse” (Romans 1:20).



People claim to not believe in God because it is “not scientific” or “because there is no proof.” The true reason is that once people admit that there is a God, they also must realize that they are responsible to God and in need of forgiveness from God (Romans 3:23; 6:23). If God exists, then we are accountable for our actions to Him. If God does not exist, then we can do whatever we want without having to worry about God judging us. I believe that is why evolution is so strongly clung to by many in our society - to give people an alternative to believing in a Creator God. God exists and ultimately everyone knows that He exists. The very fact that some attempt so aggressively to disprove His existence is in fact an argument for His existence.

Answer 9

hahahahahahaha

lol

thanks for the laugh!

Let (A) = yes
Let (B)= no
START:
A <> B
therfore A = B
Unless B <> A
then MyAnswer = 2B
Unless A is larger than a tree
then A <> B
Goto START

Answer 10

If you want see some good arguments regarding why YOU should be skeptical of religious claims, just click on my name.

Namaste

Answer 11

Too bad that your logic isn't the type which helps to develop medical cures.