Why is it that when an American loses a contest because of failing a dope test he has been framed ?

Question

I ask this as a conscerned Barbadian. We have a top world rated cyclist that has tested positive for the same thing as Landis. He was stripped of his medals, he had tested negative before and after that failed test. No one shouted frame then ???? The world governing bodies are not French, they include Americans and other non French nationals on their boards. These bodies include the drug testing agencies such as WADA which by the way have the majority of their labs in "where" America. Ever wonder why positive tests such as Gatlins come out way after the fact ? Maybe you guys should think about that before you go thinking conspiracy !!!

Answer 1

Because French people Suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Answer 2

Actually... USADA (America's WADA) tests more athletes than any other country...and more than WADA. The reason why the results take so long to come out, as in Gatlin's case, is because it first takes in general about 8 weeks before they even get around to testing the sample (they have lots to test) and secondly becuase once there has been a positive test, they have a legal process that they go through.
As for it being the American's, there were sure a lot of athletes protesting right before the Tour when they were kicked out due to the Spanish Doping Scandal (which interestingly did not involve any actual drug tests...as in no urine or blood samples were used to implicate the people on the list...but just evidence that they were doping).
Also, it would not be surprising if Landis was drugged by someone. Testosterone is a very weird thing for a Tour athlete to test postive for because it is an endurance event and testosterone is usually used to improve a person's sprinting ability, not their endurance hill climbing ability. Seeing as how Lance Armstrong's room was broken into during the Tour in previous years, it really wouldn't be surprising.

Answer 3

True WADA is not French, but the labs that the testing had been done in are.
The effort he used on Stage 17 is completely possible and heres why. If you watched stage 17, he was eating and drinking like crazy, and if i kept eating energy gels and bars and use 70 bottles of water, i dont think i would bonk. On top of that, cycling includes strategy, something which he used for the race. It was a predominantly mountain stage, which means it is totally individually powered, no peloton drafting you, except on the short flat before the final mountain where he did lose time. And he is one of the best downhillers in the peloton, whihch means if one of the guys in the front of the peloton arent also one of the best descenders, he is yet again putting time on them. The other contenders didnt want to put out an effort on other climbs besides the last, so they took it easier and went slower and yet again, Floyd lost a little more time on the last climb because he was weaker, but made it up on the decent because he decends better than Satsre. Also, long solo breakaways are exactlly how people won the tour from the beggining to the years of Bernard Hinault, so people were doing this before performance enhancing drugs were used. His coach even said that that is the way he trains, long and solo after stage 17 in the oln post race show.
Now, epitestosterone, like testosterone can be taken as a drug, which means that you can have high levels of testosterone but a normal ratio. He tested for a suspicous ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone. Now he would have to be so stupid that if he was doping, he forgot to take any epitestosterone the day he knew he was going to be under intesnse speculation because they do make their strategy before the race starts, and you would have to be really stupid to do that.
Now, cycling to the French and Europeans is like baseball and football in America. If a French baseball player or team came into America and won the World Series and got MVP, i think Americans would be very angry too.
In conclusion, the feat he accomplished was absolutley possible, if he was doping, why wouldnt he be taking epitestosterone with it, and cycling is extremelly important to the French. I am not a complete beliver of the French conspiracy theory either, but i do see it as a possibility. i have reason to belive Floyd didnt dope because of what i stated above. I hope you look at my answer with an open mind, and dont shun me because i might contradict what you belive.

Answer 4

I don't say Landis was framed, but the situation is not as simple as you may think.

The use of testosterone is pretty common among cyclists. It can be taken in limited levels. This is because the so called synthetic form is generally found in the body after consuming food like soy products. Now you have to eat huge and huge amounts of soy products to get your level up, but because of that possibility it is accepted to have a higher level then you and I would have. The trick is not to take as much as to get above that accepted level.

Almost all cyclists have a testosterone level that is higher then that of the average person and I don't think it is because they eat that much soy products.

In a way you can also compare it with speeding your car in between two traffic control checkpoints, they have to make sure that their level is down at an acceptable level at the right time. So yes, Landis cheated, but he is by no means the only one. He has done it in a more careless way though.

Answer 5

Maybe not conspiracy...(however, didn't Lance Armstrong always suspect that someone during the tour was trying to get him in trouble, he had his room broken into, etc. the French hate us anyway...) Maybe science is the anwer. We're not talking about an absolute yes or no answer here..were talking about a pretty complex ratio of hormones. Landis has reported health problems. He has permission to take Cortisone. Can't Cortisone screw up levels of estrogen (which men have small quantities), which in turn would further skew ratios of other hormones or natural steriods like testosterone? Plus, they aren't novices...they know how doping affects performance, and they all know that there is no evidence to suggest that steroids has an immediate effect. It takes time...he tested clean for 16 rounds. He knows that doping on one round isn't going to affect his performance. Steroids don't work that way. It doesn't make sense that he would dope. The numbers, so to speak, don't add up. I honestly don't think he did it, whether it's due to science or conspiracy...

Answer 6

It's a fact that the French have a disdain for Americans. It's a fact that the French really dislike being beaten by culture-less Americans for eight years in a row. Whether merit-less or not, you have to expect the conspiracy theorists to come out of the woodwork for this one.

Answer 7

There is too much money at stake. The truth is not important anymore. Winning at all cost. I felt betrayed as Floyd seems a genuine guy. Get the money out of sport and this problem will disappear. Sorry, I was dreaming!! It will unfortunately never happen

Answer 8

don't know or care about guilt or innocence however the UCI, WADA and others can't even follow their own rules.

http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/10679.0.html

So if they can't follow their own rules discussed in the above article it leaves all other steps in the process highly suspect.

on another note to key off a previous answer about lance's caution with dope controls, LeMond was also very suspicious of the handling his samples way back in the 80's.

Answer 9

Americans are rotten losers.