this has always puzzled me. I expect someone who is God to make it clear that he or she is God so that there is no confusion. But in the bible, there is not a single verse where jesus said something like " I am God." And please do no tell me that he "alluded" to be God. If someone is God, he cannot allude to it. God didn't allude to His True Self in the Torah. God made it clear in th OT as to who He is " God is One and Alone" which even a toddler can understand.
2006-08-09
10:16:43
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I want Jesus to say clearly " I am God." I am not looking for what the disclipes said.
2006-08-09
10:20:39 ·
update #1
i totally disagree with "nobodiesinc." It doesnt say anything about his Godliness.
2006-08-09
10:21:47 ·
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same thing for Betafishy. this verse doest say anything about his divinity.
2006-08-09
10:23:04 ·
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again, none of you has given me a verse where he claimed " YES I AM GOD."
2006-08-09
10:27:20 ·
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if Jesus and father are one, then how come Jesus cannot do anything unless Father gives him the power to do ? Cos he said it many times that he(jesus) cannot do anything unless the Father Wills which clearly tells they are not ONE.
2006-08-09
10:30:50 ·
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and again, Jesus Prayed to the Father which again shows they ARE NOT ONE.
2006-08-09
10:31:34 ·
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When i asked this same question yesterday, all that i got was like ............ it was implied ............... there isnt any explicit source of it. So, thats why i dont believe in it, 'coz u r right something as important as this would have been explicitly be told, and there wouldnt have been any room for all implications and explanation stuff. Prophet Jesus (Peace Be Upon Him) was NOT God, but one of the very powerful Prophet of GOD. But, then i m a Muslim and follow Islam, and u r probably looking for a Christian to reply. And i also found concept of 'trinity' is an add-on in the Bible many centuries later.
The verse referring to the father and the son being one means, that the wish of GOD is the wish of Prophet Jesus (Peace Be Upon Him), NOT that they were one physically and NOT spirtually also, and NOT in any other way that u can think to combine them. They are separate from each other, GOD is the CREATOR and Prophet Jesus (Peace Be Upon Him) is the Creation and was one of the chosen one to deliver GOD's Message.
Prophet Jesus (Peace Be Upon Him) used to pray to GOD, which is proof sufficient enough that they were NOT the same entity.
2006-08-09 10:32:52
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answered by Valentino 3
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your question puts it very well, Jesus was not God and both OT and Kuran make it very clear. Bible has been changed a lot and there are soo many versions of it, it is clear that it doesnt contain the words of God anymore. I think that only thinking about it shows you clearly why Jesus cannot be God. Thinking of God in human-prophet form is absurd. It is the source of existence, a great energy and love and everything is/must be part of God since nothing else exists. Therefore if Jesus would be God than everyone else would be something other than God and this very thought is against three religions with books and also against most eastern belief systems since there can be nothing else than God in the universe, if God has created everything.
2006-08-09 10:31:59
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answered by Anonymous
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You are very observate, Jesus is not God the Father and the Father is not Jesus. When God created the Earth the Book of Genisis uses the pharse: "Let us make man in our own image.: Us not me not I but the word used was us. This reference is used throughout the story of the creation. Another point, in the new testement, when Jesus was being baptized there was Jesus in the water, and God spoke from heaven and said :this is my beloved son. and the Holy Ghost appeared as a dove. when Jesus was found in the temple by Joseph and marry he answered them, I am about my fathers busness. When he prayed in Gethsemine he prayed to whom. His father and asked him to take the cup from him. On the cross he spoke and said,"Forgive them father, for they know not what they do" I could go on but I wont. My point is that God the Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost are three serperate beings, but they are one in purpose. Jesus explains many places he is not the father and the writers of the Bible also explain this; I know that for every verse I show or give that someone else can find something to deny or disprove it, it takes faith and belief along with knowledge to see this. I know that God the father and Jesus Christ are two seperate beings and that they both live.
2006-08-09 10:29:22
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answered by mo_nut53 4
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Jesus does make claims that He was God:
John 5: 16-18 (After hearing complaints about healing on the Sabbath, Jesus replies "My Father never stops working, so I, too, am working)
John 10: 30 - (Jesus speaking): "I and the Father are one."
There are a ton more where he makes references to himself as God, but none quite so clear as this one:
Mark 14: 61-63 - (During Jesus' trial before his crucifixion): But Jesus remained silent and gave no answer. Again the high priest asked him, "Are you the Christ, the Son of the Blessed One?" "I am," said Jesus. "And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven."
Jesus, clearly, said that he was the Son of God.
2006-08-09 10:28:59
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answered by Anonymous
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In the Bible, the "Trinity" is based on two teachings: First of all, there is only one God, confessed in Deuteronomy 6:4, "Listen, people o Israel! The Lord our God is the only God," and stated most directly in the later chapters of Isaiah; for example, "I am God. There is no other God" (Isaiah 45:22). This one God is, therefore, the only being worthy of worship: "Don't worship any other god, because I, the Lord, . . . am a jealous God" (Exodus 34:14). Second, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are said to be divine, or to be God. This leads to a simple definition of the Trinity: God exists in three persons, but is one in being. This threein-oneness is reflected in Matthew 28:19, where the disciples are commanded to baptize in "the name" (in the singular representing God's oneness or unity) "of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit". It is a complex doctrine, but it is faith-based (as all religions are) and therefore, cannot be simple to understand. Try explaining "heaven" to a child. Acts 16:31 says "Believe in the LORD Jesus and you will be saved".
If you don't believe in Jesus, why are you questioning those of us who do? You accept your God and I'll accept mine.
2006-08-09 10:40:39
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answered by TJMiler 6
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He is part of the trinity: Father, Son and Holy Ghost. He called himself son of man, never God. He did that as an example and to comply with the laws of man and God during His day. He was put on the cross because people claimed he said he was God.
He died for something he never did, to pay for the sins of those who deserved to die for their sins. It was his great sacrifice for those He loves. His blood covers my sin so that God can see me as sinless! Jesus was even there in the beginning of Genesis as the Spirit (Some Bibles say spirit some say wind). All through the Old Testament God showed the coming of Christ. It was foretold. The first time in Genesis 3:15. Where he would be born and his bloodline were all told. Why can't people see He fit the profile and then did miracles on top of that? He is the final blood sacrifice, God's gift of love to provide eternity to His people!
2006-08-09 10:37:42
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answered by shepherd 5
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In John 5:7 It tells us that God, Jesus, and the Holy spirit are one. Think about it like this. You see a three leaf clover, and there are three different leaves on the clover, but the three leaves are connected by the steam which makes them one. It's the same concept with God, Jesus, and the Holy spirit. Jesus is a part of God, and God is a part of Jesus.
2006-08-09 10:32:08
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answered by Dragonpack 3
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Mark's Jesus obviously did not consider himself God:
"...and Jesus said to him, why do you call me good? No one is good, but God alone."
(Mark 10)
The Synoptic gospels all follow this line.
But by the time John was written, after the year 100, the idea of Jesus being God was catching on. You can see this in John.
2006-08-09 17:20:14
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answered by mo mosh 6
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Sure He did.
Mark 14:62 And Jesus said, I AM: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. :63 Then the high priest rent his clothes, and saith, What need we any further witnesses? :64 Ye have heard the blasphemy:...
John 5:43 I am come in my Father's name (power), and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, [Mohammed] him ye will receive.
John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM.
That is a direct reference to the Name of God given to Moses.
2006-08-09 10:23:29
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answered by Anonymous
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Why ought to a god favor a son or daughter? it is for Zeus, Odin and different gods--to carry on once they die. The god delusion began with Egypt the position monotheism become born, the Trinity that become composed of Osiris husband/brother of Isis and their son Horus. Even an off-the-cuff examining of international scriptures coach the Bible is plagiarized from dissimilar aspects: Hammurabi Code, e book of the useless, Prophets, Torah, etc. It turned right into a e book for those with little practise or perhaps a lot less pastime in wondering for themselves. you may't use a e book to coach itself, and out of doors of Flavius Josephus there is not any aspect out of a Jesus--and he does no longer verify the Gospels, noting that there have been 20 Jesus in his day.
2016-11-29 19:07:14
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answered by ? 3
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