Was God lying in the New Testament when he said: Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.?

Question

Full verse:

As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
Romans 9:13

If God hates Esau, who else does he hate? Bet you were taught that God loves everyone and hates no one. Now do you see that Satanic doctrine that God doesn't hate anyone contradicts the bible?
Do you still choose to believe the humanistic teaching that God hates the sin but loves the sinner over believing what the bible actually teaches?

Answer 1

you have not taken into consideration that these words have been translated. we do not have the varying descriptions of emotion in English that the original languages (Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek) had. in some passages, hatred is describing a lesser degree of love (ex. deut. 21:15, Matt.6:24, Luke 14:26...) in Galatians 5:20 it describes the hatred that you are mentioning.

please, also take into consideration that when Jacob was born first, it was with Esau holding his heel. the first born has the rights and privileges that the second does not, and this is a prophetic example of two things:

1.salvation is not bought with deeds, but faith. if you do not understand how this relates to the brothers then read more about their lives

2. and the fact that God had a first born nation that denied their birth right, one that was given to another, younger nation: the gentiles.

if you really are interested in these kinds of biblical questions, read deeply into the scriptures...

see that speaking of Jacob and Esau (especially in Malachi) refers to the Edomites and the Israelites...both were from the line of Abraham, and in the end there was an unexpected election and rejection...

read the word...it's not so strictly about love and hatred...do you have a hebrew and greek lexicon?

Answer 2

Now, doesn't it make more sense when you don't cut it up? What it means is that God did favors for Jacob, but not for Esau, not that He hated him, (translation thing going on there), but that sometimes He favors one over the other. Like the gentiles he's discussing as to getting into heaven, even though we're not naturally Israelites.

Romans 9

6. It is not as though God's word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. 7. Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham's children. On the contrary, "It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned."[b] 8. In other words, it is not the natural children who are God's children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham's offspring. 9. For this was how the promise was stated: "At the appointed time I will return, and Sarah will have a son."[c]

10. Not only that, but Rebekah's children had one and the same father, our father Isaac. 11. Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad—in order that God's purpose in election might stand: 12. not by works but by him who calls—she was told, "The older will serve the younger."[d] 13. Just as it is written: "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated."[e]

Answer 3

Remember that the original scriptures were not written in Engligh and the translations to English are sometimes confusing. Here is a brief explanation from one of my favorite Bible scholars, Ray Stedman.
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"Just as it is written, "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated."

Many have struggled over those words. But all the apostle is saying is that, first, ancestry does not make any difference (these boys had the same father); and second, what they will do in their lives--including the choices they make--ultimately will not make any difference. Before they were able to make choices either good or bad, God said to their mother, "The elder shall serve the younger. " By this he implied not only a difference in the two nations descended from Jacob and Esau, but also a difference involving the personal destinies of these two men.

This is clear from history's record. Jacob forever stands for the faith God honors and wants men to have. Jacob was a scheming, weak character--not very lovable. Esau on the other hand was a rugged individualist--much more admirable than Jacob. But through the course of their lives, Jacob was brought to faith, and Esau was not.

A man once said to a noted Bible teacher, "I'm having trouble with this verse, 'Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.' How could God ever say, 'Esau I hated'?"

The Bible teacher answered, "I have trouble with this verse too--but what bothers me is how God could ever say 'Jacob I loved'!" Read the life of Jacob and you will see why.

To Love Less

We must not read this word "hated" as though God actually detested Esau and treated him with contempt. This is what we often mean when we say we hate someone. Jesus used this same word when he said, "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters--yes, even his own life--he cannot be my disciple" (Luke 14:26). Clearly he is not saying we have to treat our mothers and fathers and wives and children and our own lives with contempt and disrespect. He means we are to give him preeminence over all others. Hatred, in this sense, means to love less. We are to love others less than we love him.

God did not hate Esau in any absolute sense. In fact he blessed him. He made of him a great nation. He gave him promises which he fulfilled to the letter. What these verses imply is that God set his heart on Jacob, to bring him to redemption, and all Jacob's followers would reflect the possibilities of that. As Paul has argued already, they were not all saved by this heritage, but Jacob would forever stand for what God wants men to be, and Esau would forever stand as a symbol of what he does not like.

Do you know where the final confrontation of Jacob and Esau is recorded in the Scriptures? It was when Jesus stood before Herod the king. Herod was an Demean, an Edomite, a descendant of Esau. Jesus was a descendant of Jacob. There, standing face to face, were Jacob and Esau! Herod has nothing but contempt for the King of the Jews, and Jesus will not open his mouth in Herod's presence. This is God's strange and mysterious way of dealing with humanity. Jacob and Esau represent contradictory lifestyles which can never merge.

Paul is teaching us here that God has a sovereign, elective principle which he carries out on his own terms. Here are those terms again:

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Ray C, Stedman
From Guilt to GLory
http://www.raystedman.org/romans2/romans2.html

Answer 4

The choice of God had nothing to do with his character or worth; it was matter of God's purpose. Paul contended that there is no injustice with God. His choices show forth his power so that name might be proclaimed in ll the earth. Only by faith are people declared righteous before God. Those who attempted to establish their righteousness on any other basis stumbled over the Messiah. The bible teaches that God loves you even if you choose not love him back.

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Answer 5

God never lies.
I like your description of the doctrine.
Yes He said he hated esau.
He said it in the old testament too, through the prophets.
Mal 1:3 but I have hated Esau, and I have made his mountains a desolation, and appointed his inheritance for the jackals

Answer 6

In the original language it reads "I loved Jacob more than I loved Esau"

Answer 7

Esau sold his birthright. He committed blasphemy, the only unforgivable sin. It says in the old testament he tried to come back but couldn't. That is what will happen in the end times.(now) people will harden their hearts so much they can't turn to God , it will be too late.

Answer 8

Yeah it ought to look as though God has a multi character illness, yet human beings then (old testomony) did no longer be conscious of to any extent further proper. an excellent sort of the criticism Jesus made contained in the recent testomony have been directed to the bible scholars who theory they have been nearer to God. yet i'm no longer able to be helpful because of the fact i'm scuffling with this question besides

Answer 9

I really hate it when ppl are too lazy to read the whole scripture and then judge one verse in it so they can blame God or try to find fault in GOD AND STAY IN THERE OWN SIN!!!!!!

did you even read the rest of the capture or just judging that one verse have you read the whole bible did you know that the bible says all scripture is written by man inspired by the Holy spirit to me that means that maybe Paul who wrote that verse may have used to strong of a word or maybe some one lost the true meaning in the translation from original (hebrew) scripture lighten up grow up and get out of your sin oh by the way what is your issue or hang up really i am just curious since you expect every one to be perfect any tho scripture plainly says all have sinned and fallen short of God's Glory and no one but God is perfect yet we know Jesus Did not sin!!! so only God is perfect I would not complain about any Scripture or question them either!!!! Only continue to read them and grow in God's way to inprove on my self and to become closer to perfection every day even tho none of us will be perfect til we Get to heaven then we will all be perfect Thank God. I just keep trying to figure out what I am suppose to do to help God draw ppl to him and teach others about him!!! in til I see him face to face!

so did i answer your real question oh yeah I will always trust God and his word and understand that if the words are a little difficult to understand with my small brain since I only use 2 % of my brain like most ppl and not 100 of it like God that I will not be so big head that I can't learn from my own mistakes and realize when I really need God and with him I can do any thing but with out he i am nothing and can do nothing!!!!

amen

Answer 10

LOOK---GOD DAMNS NOONE.MAN DAMNS HIMSELF! GOD CHOOSES TO SAY WHAT IS SIN! IT IS UP TO US TO DECIDE TO SIN OR NOT TO SIN. GOD HATES SIN! WHY??????? BECAUSE IT HURTS US---WHOM HE LOVES!!!! HOW CLEVER AN UNSEEN DEVIL IS TO TWIST AND DISTORT GOD'S CHARACTER AND PRETEND THE DEVIL IS THE "GOOD GUY"! OH--AND CHECK OUT THE ORIGINAL HEBREW. MODERN TRANSLATIONS SOMETIMES MISS THE ESSENTIAL MEANING. GOD IS LOVE. SATAN IS THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE. I REST MY CASE.