I mean in all eternity of course.
I never knew the exact number, but the LDS seems to have calculated it for us.
An ever expanding Hell...http://utlm.org/newsletters/no70.htm#AN%20EVER-EXPANDING%20HELL
If 80 billion people will eventually live on earth, then it follows that the "sons of perdition" number 40 billion. The number could be even higher, however, because the figure of "80 billion" on earth does not include the millennium.
While Mormon apologists criticize others for believing in the idea of eternal punishment of the wicked, their church's own doctrine has already consigned 40,000,000,000 or more of God's own spirit children to eternal damnation.
I wonder where the Jehovahs Witnesses chosen 144,000 go in the Mormon sense of relaity?
2006-08-09
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So, how many people will the Christian--non-Mormon--God condemn to hell? What is the deal with numbering the hosts of hell? The truth is that the Mormon's belief in the afterlife includes tha fact that everyone will be aware of the potential they had and failed to achieve, they will also be aware of the pain and suffering they caused others. Can you imagine the kind of pain this will cause someone like Hitler? Sounds like hell to me. The truth is that your link really does nothing to truly explain the Mormon concept of afterlife. It picks out the details it wants to exploit and blows it into this huge thing.
If you think what this site says about Mormon theology is so terrible, Christianity isn't that much better. Hell is hell. Whoever goes there will suffer. What that means depends a whole lot on what you believe personally.
Why do you rag on the Mormons so hard? What did we do to offend you so greatly? And why can't you come up with your own issues rather than just regurgitate what's on these websites?
2006-08-09 04:28:35
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answered by pelotahombre 3
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No one knows for certain what state a person's soul is in when he/she dies. Only God knows that and hence there is no way to count how many people will go to Heaven or Hell. Most people do, though go to Hell. In apparitions at Fatima, the 3 children were given a vision of hell and they said that souls fall into it like snowflakes, indicating that legions of people go to hell.
We should ask Jesus to save souls and if you are Catholic, you should know the prayer:
Jesus, Mary, Joseph, I love you, save souls.
Many people have no one to pray for them.
The 144,000 actually refers to the number of Jews converted and saved from among the Gentiles of all nations. It is not to be taken literally, but it expresses the great number of the elect.
2006-08-09 04:34:51
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answered by SeraMcKay 3
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You will find nowhere in the bible that says anyone will burn for all eternity. Or that you have another chance during the thousand year millinium. Show me one place and collect $50,000 cash money that I have offered for many years not and as yet nobody has even offered to show any proof. Truth be known, they can't find any. Not there. The bible does say, however that the road to destruction is wide and many there be that find it but the road to Heaven is narrow and few there be that will find it. So there will be more that go to Hell fire than will get to Heaven. That part is biblical.
2006-08-09 04:26:22
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answered by ramall1to 5
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only God knows for sure. but I have read Revelation.. and John being carried up to the 3rd heaven (1st. heaven sky, 2nd heaven, space, 3rd heaven, the abode of God) he saw a number of people that no man could number.. now I'm not the smartest person, but I can count to 144,000 and I'm sure that he could too.. but there are more people in heaven than 144,000.
I have news for any religion that claims only their religion will be in heaven, your religion isn't what is getting you in, it's your faith in the son of God that gets you in. there will be every religion of people there. heaven is not roped off for certain sects. but all will have one thing in common, they will know that they are there by the grace of God and by the sacrifice of Jesus.
by the way.. the REAL 144,000 that will be there, that the Bible talks about are from the 12 tribes of Jews that will be saved in the tribulation. unless I'm wrong, I don't think that JW's are Jewish. but the Bible does speak to one of the 7 churches and condemns them for claiming that they are Jews and weren't.. is this the JW's? only God knows.
2006-08-09 04:29:35
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answered by ♥Poetic1♥ 5
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Jehovah's Witnesses understand heaven to refer to the dwelling place of spirit creatures such as Jesus and the angels. They understand the Scriptures to teach that exactly 144,000 humans will join Christ Jesus as kings and priests to administer God's Kingdom (which will soon replace all earthly governments).
(Daniel 2:44) God of heaven will set up a kingdom... It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite
(Revelation 14:1) Lamb [Jesus] standing upon the Mount Zion, and with him a hundred and forty-four thousand
(Revelation 20:6) they will be priests of God and of the Christ, and will rule as kings with him
Over whom will they rule? Over the vast majority of mankind, most of whom will have been raised from the dead after Armageddon.
(John 11:23,24) Jesus said to her: “Your brother will rise.” Martha said to him: “I know he will rise in the resurrection on the last day.”
Hell is NOT someplace/something mankind needs to fear; there is no suffering in the grave. Sometime after the resurrection, death and "hell" will themselves be destroyed.
(Ecclesiastes 9:5) For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all
(Ecclesiastes 9:10) there is no work nor devising nor knowledge nor wisdom in Sheol ["hell"]
(Revelation 20:14) And death and Hades ["hell"] were hurled into the lake of fire
Almighty Jehovah God selects those few who have the heavenly calling. Each person "feels" his own hope and each person's hope remains unquestioned by his fellow Christians. Still the vast majority (literally more than 99.9%*) of Jehovah's Witnesses expect an EARTHLY hope, the same hope given to Adam and Eve.
(Genesis 1:28) God blessed them and God said to them: “Be fruitful and become many and fill THE EARTH and subdue it [caps added]
(Genesis 2:17) You must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will positively die [so never eating from that tree means never dying]
Learn more:
http://www.watchtower.org/library/w/2000/10/1/article_02.htm
http://www.watchtower.org/library/w/2000/10/1/article_01.htm
http://watchtower.org/library/jt/index.htm
2006-08-09 05:25:49
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answered by achtung_heiss 7
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wonder where the Jehovahs Witnesses chosen 144,000
== From the 12 Tribes!
The originator of JW was a big PYRAMIDOLOGIST.
He counted steps, hight, etc. to get his dates and predictions.
2006-08-09 04:25:07
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answered by whynotaskdon 7
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I think the JW 144k are believed to be the only ones that make it to heaven. I can't answer the rest.
2006-08-09 04:24:37
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answered by RB 7
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There's going to be a lot of people there. But there's no way of calculating how many..
2006-08-09 04:23:22
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answered by ۞ JønaŦhan ۞ 7
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imo, any church that does not study the Bible, but some book written by a mere mortal (!) is a cult...don't believe a word they say
2006-08-09 04:27:00
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answered by annierose 3
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2 out of 3 are much better odds than any other Christian church will give you.
2006-08-09 21:41:30
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answered by Jay 3
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