Atheist I just want to see the truth?

Question

1.) Where did matter come from that created the big bang?
2.) Where did your conscience come from?
3.) How did life evolve from a non living substance?
4.) How do you know there is no God?
5.) Who was the first person to come up with the idea of God?
6.) Could mother nature create a car, or a computer?
7.) How does mitosis work?
8.) If the first creature came from water, how did it change from gills to lungs or vice versa if the opposite is true.
9.) Were is proof of this transtional form? Fossils-which?
10.) Were does space end, and where did time start?
11.) How is their a perfect amount of water on the Earth to sustain life. The perfect distance for the Earth to be from the sun, so we don't freeze or burn up. The perfect atmosphere so that the Earth retains its heat.
12.) How do you know that if there was a God, that he couldn't send his spirit to live in an individual to know the truth.
13.) How do you know that fire is really hot? Can you prove it to me with words.

1. Matter cannot be created nor destroyed, so it always was just like God. Just like we believe people spirits are eternal
2.) Your consious came from God, so that we would know right from wrong. Proof a child is raised in abuse, he knows it is wrong.
3.) God gave life. Life comes from life
4.) We know God's exist since his spirit lives inside us.
5.) Humans are incapable of making up the idea of God. Try making up a new color impossible
6.) In order for something to be made, there has to be a maker. Nobody could believe that a car could be made by mother nature. Yet we are supposed to believe that something more complex like a human can
7-8.) God could have made evolution if he wanted too
9.) No proof anywhere actually a guy will give anyone $500000 to show evidence of this..I will find you the website if you ask
10.) Space has no ending, time doesnt exist. just like numbers has no ending.
11.) God genius
12.) Anything possible
13.) Prove to me atheist..I dont believe

You say you want proof there is a God,, but theres nothing I can say to you that would change that like question 13. If you want the truth search..Otherwise believe in science, and find out when its to late.

Answer 1

The mere claim, there could be a "Proof for the Existence of God," seems to invite ridicule. But not always are those right who laugh first and think later. Remember how all-knowing doctors/scientists laughed at every new discovery. They laughed when they heard for the first time about diseases that were supposedly caused by animals so tiny that you could not see them. They continued to laugh at virtually every discovery that challenged their previous believes in an attempt to preserve the status of "have-studied-for-years-and-must-therefore-know- everything-already."
They always laughed first but, when things became clear, they must have felt very, v ery...
On the other hand, many well-known scientists now admit that certain discoveries tend to indicate that God rather does exist than not. The problem, I suggest, lies in certain preconceptions. If we picture God as a person, then the question comes up: where is God?

However, if we picture God as something that could be everywhere, surrounding us like air or awareness, then, understanding if and what God is - all of a sudden - becomes a possibility. I am sure you can agree: if there is a God, then God has to exist and has to be aware of His Existence (can you even picture an unconscious God). Also, He must exist on his own, which means: God must be self-energetic. That is the safest thing we can say without too much speculation. And, in fact, that is precisely what God is: God is self-energetic Awareness. But I don't want to presuppose that God's existence is a fact before the proof is established.

Simply by looking at what constitutes our world, we can say that all matter consists of energy, proving the existence of energy. How, then, do we know this energy exists? The simple answer is, we are aware of it. We then only have to find out how this awareness came about. Did it come from dead matter or lifeless energy as the materialists have us believe? Or, did Awareness exist first or did Awareness co-exist with energy, out of which the Awareness then formed matter? Is awareness a by-product of electro-chemical activities in the brain? Is Awareness the out-put or the Generator? We are more certain considering our thoughts. Thinking is definitely an out-put. But, who is thinking and who is aware? Whether it is the whole Universe or our own thoughts, the question is: who or what is the first cause? It is only logical to conclude that awareness cannot be the product of dead matter or life-less energy. How could that even be imagined?

Yes, I claim that God can be proven indirectly through very convincing circumstantial evidence and directly through personal experience (see article Self-Knowledge). The body of circumstantial evidence, that has been collected over the years, is tremendous and by itself a proof simply through the overwhelming accumulation of proofs. One could call it Prima Facie Evidence, which is evidence of such a high degree of probability that it is recognized as evidence until the opposite can be proven. I feel that the evidence presented in "Awareness - The Center of Being" delivers such convincing evidence. To be fair, there are a number of good books and proofs around and whenever I encounter those I will add the titles and addresses to this page.


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Why do we seek proof for the Existence of God?
The answer is quite obvious, we fear death and seek assurance that survival is not only possible but guaranteed. Since we can only survive within a condition that is not undergoing constant change and decay, we need something that exists forever and is not subject to change. Such condition of eternal Beingness is what we termed God.

Ideally, Philosophy should be more than a mere intellectual exercise: It should give us direct knowledge. According to my understanding, Philosophy may lead to something we may call "Intellectual Enlightening." However, "Intellectual Enlightening" is of secondary quality, realizing that God must exist and understanding that God's nature must be Pure Awareness and Beingness does not give us the direct experience of such Pure Awareness. But, ultimately, only the direct experience satisfies a mind plagued with doubts and fear.

Therefore, the real value of Philosophy lies in its chance of building the foundation for an intellectual understanding. Once we know for sure that ultimate knowledge of survival and Pure Awareness can be found, we, as skeptics and attached to our duties, know also that our time is not wasted if we set out to search a direct experience. To this theoretical understanding, we may then add the assurances of all the Saints, Mystics, Scriptures, Sages, and Self-realized persons and lose even more doubt in the process.

Once we have dealt with our doubts, there is still an effort involved to realized Pure Awareness.
The next question then may be: Is the end worth all the trouble? Here we can again take advice from our Saints, Mystics, Sages, and the Scripture. They all speak of "Heavenly Bliss". The value this condition has for us is made clear in this quote from the New Testament (Matt. 13:44-46):
"The Kingdome of Heaven is like this. A man happens to find a Treasure hidden in a field.
He covers it up again, and is so happy that he goes and sells everything he has, and then goes back and buys that field."

Philosophy can give us the assurance we need to start us out on our path but, otherwise, it has not much more to offer. Once we know that something is there to find that is of ultimate value, it would be a waste of time to endlessly discuss something that is already within reach. For that reason Buddha is quoted:
"When your house is on fire, is it wise to discourse on the nature of fire?
Or, When shot with an arrow, would you discourse on the nature of arrows, or pull the arrow out?"


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The historical arguments for God’s existence are classified by various categories, for example:

The Ontological Argument The Causality Argument The Kalam (Time) Argument
The Contingency Argument The Cosmological Argument The Design Argument
The Miracles Argument The Moral Argument The Religious Experience Argument
The Teleological Argument The Prima Facie Argument


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Examples:

The Ontological Argument:
(Ontological arguments are based entirely on reason. Kurt Gödel has subdivided the argument into 7 kinds of ontological arguments.)

1. St. Anselm (around 1077) developed what is now called the "Ontological Argument" for the Existence of God in his book "Faith Seeking Understanding." He argued:
Men believe God to be the Being than which none greater can be thought. It is greater to exist in reality and in the understanding than to exist in the understanding alone. Therefore, it is contradictory to hold that God exists only in the intellect, for then the being than which none greater can be thought is one than which a greater can be thought, namely, one that exists both in reality and in the understanding. 2. Descartes:"Whatever is contained in a clear and distinct idea of a thing must be predicated of that thing; but a clear and distinct idea of an absolutely perfect Being contains the notion of actual existence; therefore since we have the idea of an absolutely perfect Being such a Being must really exist."

3. Leibniz:"God is at least possible since the concept of Him as the Infinite implies no contradiction; but if He is possible He must exist because the concept of Him involves existence."

The Causality Argument:
1. Thomas Aquinas was probably the first to use the Causality Argument as published in his "Summa Theologica." Many others have arrived at the same point of view: Only nothing comes from nothing - everything else comes from something. Everything leads back to a more original form.

Thomas Aquinas argues that there is no case known in which a thing turned out to be the efficient cause of itself, because in that case it would be prior to itself, which is impossible. If, however, one thing was caused by another, there would be an infinite chain of cause and effect, which would be impossible. But if we take away the ultimate cause it is to take away the effect. If in efficient causes it is possible to go on to infinity, there will be no first efficient cause, neither will there be an ultimate effect. Therefore it is necessary to admit a first efficient cause, to which everyone gives the name of God.

Thomas Aquinas also argued that the existence of motion itself suggests a prime mover (scientist developed for that purpose the 'Big Bang theory.' However, such a Bang could not have developed if there was absolutely nothing before. Therefore, the question remains where did this infinitely dense point of origin come from?)

St. Thomas Aquinas and his five proofs for the Existence of God:
1. The fact of change proves an ultimate agent of change!
2. The chain of causation proves a first cause that needs to be uncaused to
end the otherwise endless chain of events!
3. The contingent facts of the world require an ultimate Being!
4. The fact of graduation of things as higher and lower suggests Perfected
Being at the top of the hierarchy!
5. The order and design found in nature suggest a highest Being at the Source!


2. Pope John Paul II: "To speak of chance for a universe which presents such a complex organization in its elements, and such a marvelous finality in its life would be equivalent to giving up the search for an explanation of the world as it appears to us. In fact, this would be equivalent to admitting effects without a cause." See link above!

The Kalam (Time) Argument:
Muslim philosophers argued: If the universe had a beginning at all, the beginning cannot rest on nothingness but God. If the universe had, instead, an infinite past and is without beginning and uncreated, then it is impossible to have arrived at the present moment, in the same way as it is impossible to jump out of a bottomless pit.
The key here is the concept of infinity. Surely, if we have to go back infinitely without arriving at a beginning, there could be a great problem with having arrived at the present moment. Without a definite starting point in time, this is simply impossible.

The Design Argument:
William Paley, an eighteenth-century Anglican priest and philosopher, concluded that all living creatures are far too complicated to have arisen by chance. For him the universe was clearly showing direction and an instrument for a goal. Therefore, the universe must be the product of an intelligent designer. He added an example of someone who finds a watch, but had no prior knowledge of what watches are. Even so he has never seen one, the man quite naturally concludes: The watch has been designed and is used for a purpose. He does not assume the watch came into existence by chance.


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Arguments against the Existence of God:

Perhaps the most persistent argument of atheists is what they call the "Argument from evil."
They say that God, as defined by Religion, is supposed to be all-powerful and all-loving.
From this they conclude that God does not exist, because:
1. If God wants to prevent evil but cannot do so, God cannot be all that all-mighty.
2. If God can prevent evil but does not do so, God cannot be all that all-loving.
3. Because evil clearly exists, God either cannot prevent evil or does not care about it.
4. Therefore, God, as does not exist.

Counter argument:
The argument above is valid as long as it refers to a certain perception of God. Evil and good are simply the two opposites that are found throughout nature. Without opposites, the Yin and Yang, life would not be possible at all. Without opposites we would also have no freedom of choice. Therefore God does not interfere. Imagine two armies approaching, they are fighting over something as simple as food. Both parties are praying to God for help. Who is God to help? And if God does not interfere could we reasonably conclude that He does not care and, therefore, does not exist? God is Self-energetic Mass-awareness. That is self-evident because energy and Awareness is all that exist. The energy part can be confirmed by any physicist and Awareness is simply part of our experience and cannot have developed out of dead matter or lifeless energy. Since everything is a condensation of his energy, for God only God exists. God is not a person and for that reason we should not try to understand God in human terms.


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Answer 2

(#6) First off, humans created cars and computers. God didn't come down from heaven and say, "Here you guys go. Thought you'd like this." (#7) Mitosis is really very simple. http://www.cellsalive.com/mitosis.htm Here is a very simple example. Just click play. (#8) Ever heard of amphibians? (#11) So does Venus, Jupiter, and Neptune. Also, there is too much water on Earth, and we are just starting to notice it. Haven't you heard of Global Warming recently?? And finally, (#13) fire is hot because when you touch it, it burns the crap out of you. It will destroy hair and tissue as easily as any other substance. It can melt steel and burn bones. It is also what causes body heat. Haven't you ever wondered why you are usually 98.6 degrees? That is because you are "burning" calories. You are using energy, which incidentally, cannot be destroyed or created. Not matter. We create and destroy matter all the time. Think plastic. Now for the additional details. (#2) Not all children know that abuse is wrong just because they were raised that way. There are many cases where children are raised in abusive homes, and if they actually survive, usually end up carrying on the cycle of abuse into their adult relationships. (#5) Crayola makes new colors every year. So do painters. This was a really bad example. Haven't you ever mixed a bunch of paint together when you were in kindergarten and discovered a color? Sure it may have always been there, but you just discovered it. (#7-8) Why would he want to do that? Doesn't that kind of defeat his purpose of being God?? (#10) This is quite possibly the most rediculous one yet. "Time doesn't exist"??? Now how do you get off saying that? What do you call the "time" that has elapsed between christ's birth and today? Or how about the "time" between now...........and now? What was that? Good luck with your many questions that can easily be answered. Some cannot, and that is the whole reason christians and athiests don't get along.

Answer 3

1.) Matter always was, It doesn't need to be created.
2.) What makes you think you have conscience? I think there for I am is a flawed concept.
3.) If God can do it, then why would it be so hard to believe that life just happens.
4.) How do you know there is, I'd like to meet him.
5.) A bunch of primitive people come up with an idea to explain the unexplainable (but it will be explainable one day)....much like you are doing right now.
6.)No she can't, but so what we can.(asking question like this is childlike)
7.) Mitosis:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitosis If you need more info on this then you will never get it, so whats the point in explaining it.
8.) Evolution, it does exist there is proof only you don't want to hear it.
9.) Fossils are actually rare.Living organisms made up of organic material that other organic organisms eat, you are being eaten right now.
10.) Space and time is relative to thee observer.( you can't answer this question with a simple yes and no answer )
11.) If we had half the water on this planet than we have now, would there still be life...yes. Just not the way you think it would be.
12.) Well if I believed in your God then sure why not.
13.)Not sure where you are going with this ....question. But I'll try.Feeling something physical and feeling something emotional is two different things.
And I can prove it by burning you, no words are necessary.

Answer 4

I am not atheist, but I can answer these questions from a scientific standpoint.

1. It always existed, since time was created in the big bang, there was no before.
2. our upbringing, and our brains, and the experience of knowing what it's like to be on the receving end of actions.
3. a single replicating molecule kicked off evolution.
4. I don't know there is no god but there is zero evidence of his existance despite repeated attempts to get him to show himself. Also, everything we know about nature can be explained without the use of God as a factor (the result is the same whether or not we assume God had a hand in the experiment and his presence cannot be confirmed). Therefore, he can be eliminated from the explanation as an extra term.
5. Couldn't say.
6. Humans are part of nature, humans can create these things. yes.
7. You mean the process of a cell splitting? Read any biology textbook or type 'mitosis process' into google. I'm not here to educate you.
8. It didn't. Its decendants did.
9. Every species existing today is a transitional form. Or did you really think that humans are somehow the 'best' and only outcome of evolution?
10. Time started at the big bang, we don't know if space ends but if it does, it's far enough away that we won't reach it in our lifetime.
11. Since life evolved adapting to the conditions of the earth, it's no wonder that life is perfectly suited to earth environment. If the earth were slightly colder, there would be more animals suited to cold. If there was no land, there would be no land animals.
12. Assuming God existed, he could do whatever he wanted. There is, unfortunately, no scientific evidence for this.
13. Give me your hand, I will light a match under it and show you substiantial evidence that fire is hot.

Answer 5

Wow long question. (I'm a Christian)
1. Since something cannot come from nothing, God probably made the matter that started the bang. So, creationism and the big bang can both be true, but God is the ultimate Creator.
2. God.
3. It didn't
4. There is a God.
5. God is, and was, and always will be.
6. Nope.
7. What is mitosis??
8. The first creature (human) came from dirt. Really, every human is jusdt dirt.
9. ?
10. Space ends somewhere, but even heaven is bigger. Time never started, it will never end.
11. God created it, so it's perfected
12. I don't really get that question but the Holy Spirit is in every one of us.
13. I don't really know. Only God knows.
Blessings...

Answer 6

1. Energy cannot be created or destroyed but it can change
forms, I can't see energy but it is all around me. Energy can
form matter.

2. My conscience came from brain, my moral thoughts came
from that I think is right or wrong and some no one else.

3. You never seen mold on a bread, bread is not alive but mold
will form on it.

4. I don't know there is a God, but I can show you I can exist for
example come around to mine and I will slap you in the face.
Now until God slaps me in the face I can't say that he does
exist.

5. You know monkeys in some parts of the world do a ritial rain
dance come the first rains of the rain season some say this is
the first signs of religion. Now with monkeys meant to be
similar to humans and god being almigtly and all that he forget
to tell the monkeys not to worship rain as a god.

6. Mother nature is a non physical/conscience force to explain
biology, I would think she does not have the arms or tools to
make a car. Yet again, the compounds needed to make could
occour in nature but like animals etc, they have no legs or
means to move to each other to mate or form into a car etc.

7. Try www.cellsalive.com/mitosis.htm.

8. Well frogs and other animals can live out of water so this
question doesn't mean anything.

9. I've never seen a fossil of a transtional form between a
catapillar and a butterfly but there is such a form.

10. It starts at the start and ends at the end.

11. You never heard of Sod's law?

12. You right I don't know then again you don't know if I'm his
spirit so you better start worpshipping me just in case your
wrong.

13. You right its not hot its "fish" since hot is a human word to
explain something it is made up, hot just refers to the
experience of it.

Answer 7

1. It was always there. Before the big bang there was no time... Groovy, isn't it? :)
2. Conscience is the interiorasiation of external commands ("Don't do that, it's bad!")
3. Chemical reactions probably, but we don't know yet.
4. We don't know. How do you know there is any god?
5. We don't know. Who was the first who come up with atheism?
6. Humans are part of the nature.
7. Check an elemntary biology book.
9. It took billions of years... It adapted to the environment and there were other effects too.
10. Space is probably infinte, and as I told you, time is very likely to have started with the Big Bang.
11. Luck. But there re other similar planets too. The Mars is pretty liveable planet too.
12. It may be. I said at point 4 we don't know if there is any god.
13. I kow fire is hot because I put my hand in it. What's the point?

Answer 8

Energy. Not matter. Energy cannot be created or destroyed. Thank you for playing. Try again.

An atheist is not required to subscribe to the theory of the Big Bang, nor is an atheist required to accept evolution. It just so happens that atheists are more likely to think rationally, and are therefore more likely to accept evolution... because there is an abundance of evidence that supports that theory. As for the Big Bang, not all atheists believe this is how the universe began. Many believe that the universe is itself eternal.

Some of your questions are simply ridiculous. Some are fashioned in such a manner as to be sarcastic and provoking, which I must admit is a sense of humor I enjoy... however, when the ideas you are supporting with your sarcasm are ludicrous, your sarcasm becomes a sad representation of your intellect.

If you want to know about current scientific findings concerning evolution and the origins of life, have a look at some books. Have a look at some websites.

http://www.talkorigins.org/

Answer 9

Well, first of all ENERGY cannot be created or destroyed not matter. You have absolutely no idea about chemistry, physics or just science in general. Our conscious is a product of our environment. A child that has been beaten their whole life doesn't know that it is wrong until they see that it isn't supposed to be like that. Have you ever heard of a paradigm shift. That can explain the big bang and the perfect conditions of the Earth. Even though this galaxy is too big for any of us to ever be able to comprehend. You think it is some miracle that there is life in something that is larger than our minds can comprehend. Furthermore our biological apparatus seeks a higher power. So yes we can create gods you idiot, how did all these religions come about? I'll give you one example. Buddhism was created by a prince by the name of Siddhartha Gautama who was sheltered his whole life and once his father died and he took over as king he was devastated by the things he saw. ( murder, poverty things like that) He then went to a deep meditation for 40 days and found what they call enlightenment. There might be a god there might not none of us know. Also fire is hot because it burns.

Answer 10

I'm not an atheist, but I recognize faulty logic when I see it.

Your answer to "Where did matter come from", for instance,
is simply cyclical. OK, then where did God come from?

There are lots of theories surrounding the big bang, but at
this point, they are just theories. One theory says that the
Universe has been exploding and contracting back to a
singularity and then exploding again - for all time.

The idea that for Atheists must be correct they must have good
answers for all of your questions completely misunderstands
the concepts behind science.

Science is all about coming up with theories and then trying
to prove or disprove them. That fact that most questions
don't have sound-bite answers does not make the answers
incorrect.

For instance, "where does space end?" Do you understand
Einstein's concept of a bubble Universe, the dynamics of
which are based on the nature of energy or matter? I don't.
I understand some of the equations, but not enough. The
fact that I don't understand something is not proof that it is
not true.

Atheists simply do not believe that God exists. Its not they
believe they know everything and that they know God doesn't
exist - but they see no requirement for God in the Universe
as they see it in front of them.

There are a myriad of ethical questions that Atheists can
aim back at religious types: For instance, for Christians,
if God is merciful, how can he let the vast majority of the world's
population (those pre-Christ, those who don't believe in
Christ) be damned? To say "Who are we to know the workings
of God's mind?" is simply ducking the issue.

Scientists are trying to answer some of your questions.
They have answers to most of the above - long, highly detailed
answers which often cause more questions.

Christians will not try to answer questions that go to the
logic of the faith itself. The answers ultimately comes down
to you must have faith.

Why must I have faith? Who says? You?

Why is it that people are far more likely to adopt the religion
that thew grew up immersed in than your particular religion?
What does that it say about that religion's "correctness"?

I personally know only one thing: I don't know.

As to the faithful knowing that their religion is the right one,
it seems to me that they suffer from Bush's arrogance.
That is, Bush knew that Iraq had weapons
of mass destruction.

You don't KNOW. You just really strongly believe.

Answer 11

1. It came for a star that imploded.
2. Common reasoning
3. Electricity + perfect life soup mix that existed on the planet when it was similar to venus = life.
4. I don't, but you don't know he/she/it exists.
5. I dont know, some crackpot idiot.
6. No, human knowledge did.
7. It's in a 7th grade science book. Look it up.
8. How does a salamander have both?