Usually the people that believe you can be born gay....?

Question

also believe that Darwin's theory of evolution is fact.

So, if Darwin was right, how can someone be born gay?

How can a behavior that prohibits reproduction be genetic in nature?

Answer 1

I'm glad you asked. It seems that a few of you could use some information about Charles Darwin and his beliefs on evolution.
Darwin specifically referrenced homosexuality in Origen of the Species. He theorized that not all evoluntionary traits were hereditary and in fact that there were evolutionary traits such as mental illness, homosexuality and sterility were in place to prevent continued propagation as even though these traits make it difficult-to-impssible to propagate they are never bred out of the species. Doctor James Ogdon advanced a theory that these propagatory defects that recurr again and again in the species are a defense mechanism to keep population in check, that these traits are ingrained in the lifetime of the Mother or Father if they are exposed to overcrowded conditions or scarcity of resources.. This does follow as homosexuality, Sterility and mental disorders are more common in heavy populated areas than in sparse ones.

For those of you who think that Homosexuality is a choice I can help you convince everyone that you're right. Choose to be a Homosexual, have sex with your own gender and it will show beyond a shadow of a doubt that you can choose your sexual preferrence. I know I can't manage it but then again I haven't managed to choose to be a theif or a murderer or an alcoholic despite trying to do those as well, so it could be a personal problem.

Answer 2

I understand your point, but unfortunately it doesn't follow for a few reasons. First of all, a genetic condition such as homosexuality is an aberrant genetic condition, almost like a mutation. In a darwinistic sense, if these were heridatary, it wouldn't be passed on as the gene line would die off.

But on the other hand, there's not much evidence to sugguest that homosexuality is heriditary. Thus, the idea of passing it to the next generation or not doesn't exist. It's impossible for the gay lineage to die out and the straight lineage to not die out, because there's no such thing as a gay lineage. On the other hand, that may be the case because in more ancient times, there WAS such a thing as a gay lineage; one that, on the average, had more gay people than others. If this was the case, said lineage would have bred less popuarly than other lineages, and as thus would have by and large died off. so the lineage that is less gay persists. You may say "But Tomu, by that logic, the least gay lineage should be the only one to exist by now, and that lineage is the NO gay lineage." But that assumes that there is a No-gay lineage. Allow me to explain.

In society, there is an optimum amount of crime. Obviously, it would be better if there simply wasn't any crime, but the optimum amount of crime is the amount that exists in a society that has the most effecient outcome. As in, if the society were to prevent more crime than it is already preventing, it would be spending more by preventing the crime than the crime was taking from the society in the first place. Why do I bring this up?

Because there is an optimal amount of evolution. If we assume evolution requires energy over the ages, then evolution stops at the point where it becomes ineffecient to evolve further. Perhaps by evolving to a point where less than 10% of the population would be gay would lead us to conseqquentially lose certain aspects of our empathy. That is not to say that empathy is impossible without the possibility of being gay, but that the evolutionary method that would be used to decrease gayness would have other undesirable side effects.

As an example, look at the polar bear. The polar bear doesn't need a heavy coat (which it has), it needs a warm coat. It is simply the case that the easiest manner for such an entity to possess a warm coat, is to possess a heavy coat. So even if evolution is somehow harmful to the lineage, if it (or the gene that causes it) is also productive to something that makes humanity successful, it is likely to be maintained.

Answer 3

We have evolved to the point where we have the brain power to do things for pleasure. And gayness has been kept alive by all those gay men and women who were forced into heterosexual relationships due to religious persecution. It began as a random mutation (just like all mutations that lead to evolution) and was continued by forced reproduction.

So, if you think about it, it's the Christians' fault that homosexuality has persevered. Without all that persecution, the characteristic may have died out as people could have led their happy gay lives. Instead, it has been kept alive until a time when homosexuals can have children through scientific means and, thus, possibly pass on the trait. A miracle like that, must have been for a reason. In this case, God literally had a hand in it.

Huh.

Answer 4

Interesting theory. The problem with the anti darwin thing is that you have to understand the theory. It's not that all species will in fact reproduce. It is that species will reproduce based on enviromental factors. That means that, for example, if a species needs to be hardy then only hardy specimens will be sought after for mating. It also means that undesireable specimens will not be able to mate for lack of finding a partner. Also, it means that, in overcrowded situations, many will unknowingly choose not to reproduce at all. In essence, for the good of the species. I personally believe that some of the theory is flawed. I also believe that homosexuals were born that way. Maybe evolution explains it, maybe it doesn't. As far as humans go, I just can't believe that people would willingly subject themselves to all of the negative things that go along with being homosexual if they had a choice in the matter.

Answer 5

Reality check please.

No one is born gay. A person becomes gay, lesbian or confused because of their environment, not because of genetics.

If an individual has a penis and this person's genetics contain the Y chromosome then definitely HE is Male.

If an individual has a vagina and this person's genetics contain only X chromosomes then definitely SHE is Female.

Hermaphrodites (organisms with two genitals) are a genetic oddity, therefore in no way can this be used as basis to prove and approve homosexuality and the lifestyle that goes with it.

I've already discussed the scientific side now let's go to the religious aspect. All God-fearing religions will tell you that God or Allah or Yahweh created a MAN and a WOMAN. God did NOT create "Adam and Steve" or "Madam and Eve".

Anyone who believes and advocates the "born gay" philosophy is a liar to all genders and to him or herself. Gays, lesbians and the transgendered believe whatever trash science they can get their hands on not because it is true, but because it justifies their lies and their lifestyle.

Yeah, straight men and women have our share of skeletons in our closets but at least we are true to our genetics and ourselves. Straight individuals can be proud and brag that we can produce offspring and children. Any scientific proof that gay men can produce offspring my engaging in anal sex and thereby impregnating their male partner? Any lesbians out there who can scientifically prove that they can also produce sperm from their vaginas and impregnate their female partner?

I rest my case.

As to Darwin's evolution theory, Darwin only hypothesized something about natural selection and continuation of a species. How can any species survive and procreate if they just F*** with their own genders?

Bottom line for all gays, lesbians and transgendered:

"USE IT or LOSE IT!"

Peace.

Answer 6

Well, here we go. If someone prohibits their natural reproduction they will in fact be bread out of a population. So that does nothing but prove every single word that Darwin said. Darwin simply promoted that the strong will survive.

Answer 7

In the case of Darwinism, a form or contraception. Birth control. It is said 1 in 20 or 30 are gay and our population is rising rapidly.

In the case of God, I don't question.

Who makes savants, the blind, the mute and why!?

Next we also have to address issues such as is homosexuality a defect or an simple alteration. Like blue and brown eyes. An option.

By the way, Genome studies are starting to prove that homosexulity is a genetic possiblity.

If God does it why?

The best answer is predestination.

Maybe it's a test. Do we stone them like the Laws of Moses say or do we accept them and give them rights and love and humainity.

Your choice!

Answer 8

You seem to think that Darwin's theory means that every single individual of the population must be perfect and a step forward in the survival of the species. You are wrong. Go back to school and learn how evolution actually works.

Answer 9

I'm not in any way suggesting that homosexuality is a disease, but bear with me for a minute. The are many congenital diseases that have been able to survive evolution because they don't affect every person that carries them; there can be asymptomatic carriers who in turn pass on the genes to their offspring. Even if the disease prevents procreation in the people who actually suffer from it, the genes still survives in the carriers.

Like I said, I'm not equating homosexuality with a disease. I simply think that people are born that way and that your theory about evolution wiping it out doesn't hold water. If it did, any inherited trait that prevented procreation would also have been wiped out by evolution and that's clearly not the case.

Answer 10

It doesn't really make sense.

Part of Darwin's THEORYis based on the survival of the fitest. Homosexuals can not reproduce with each other, but their numbers are increasing.

What about those people who go both ways? And those who are FORMER homosexuals? Or those who were FORMER heterosexuals? This makes the answer clear; it is a matter of CHOICE.