How could have the Big Bang theory have happened without God?

Question

I understand that some scientists and athiests tried to disprove God's existance by saying the Earth and planets were created by the Big Bang Theory. My question is, where did the gases come from that created the big bang theory? What created the solar system and outer space? Who can answer this?

Okay, so no one can answer this question. All you can do is try to answer it with another question. Who created God? The answer is still the same. A higher being. Everything had to come from somewhere. Where did the gas come from? All you can do is attack and you can't answer the question.

Answer 1

Basic Science
Law of Newton: For every action there is a reaction.

Thus God is the First Action in the history of the Universe
Thus God is the First Movement in the history of the Universe

Disprove Newton's Law of Science which confirms God existence

Atheism is based on emotion and faith alone.

Answer 2

God is not ruled out by the big bang, but he is not necessary either, as you imply.

There are a couple of different options science consister:

1. There is a multiverse beyond this universe that sparked the big bang in this space-time continuum
2. The energy that began the big bang was very, very small (from that small amount of energy the whole universe emerged....the inflationary theory). It could be that that energy "just exists" just like the universe "just exists"

We are just at the cusp of understanding the big bang, and there is much more to learn (we need to learn a bit more about quantum mechanics and possible strings and membranes before we know more).

It may be that the universe "just exists". I don't understand why this is such a problem for theists. Consider the choices:

a. A concious, superpowerful, all-knowing, benevolent and perfect God that cares about tiny little creatures and interferes with their lives at the far reaches of a vast universe "just exists"

b. A small amount of enery "just exists".

To me, the latter seems much more reasonable and likely.

But lets suppose there was a "god" of some sort that actually got the big bang going. What does that mean? We don't know anything about that god, except he can make a bit of energy. We don't know if he is good, bad, all powerful, or can only make batches of energy. We don't even know if it is a conscious god.

In short, EVEN IF a "god" started the big bang, which may not be necessary, that has nothing to say about whether it was Allah, Zeus, Osirus, Neptune or Jesus. The theistic question remains just as widely open.

Good question though.

Answer 3

God said, "Let there be"...
And boom!
There it was!

Actually, I'm kind of being funny, and then I'm not. That's really the way I believe it went. I mean, for God to just be able to speak and have something happen, He has to be powerful. He said, "Let there be light" and BANG! there was light. God created everything. His voice and His power were mighty enough to create something from nothing. He can create the gases to use to create the universe, just as He created the dust He used to create Adam and the rib with which He created Eve.
There's no way anything could possibly be here unless God was truly real.
Everyone says the theory disproves God, but I say it does just the opposite...it proves His existence. That's the real beauty.

And to advgman52:
Actually, no that isn't impossible. Time is infinite. You can't go back and eventually say, "Nothing happened a second ago, because it did not exist"...and you can't say truthfully that "there won't be another second from now" because by the time you finish the statement another second will have passed. Time is a constant continuim. It has no beginning and no end. You can't scientifically prove that time just starts and stops like a stop watch. That's bogus. Time is infinite, so obviously there is the possibility that God is also.
If it's not possible for God, the creator of all, to be infinite...then obviously that stands to say that infinity cannot exist. So how then do you explain that time just keeps going without stop?
It makes less sense to me to say that time can just start and stop whenever it feels like it, for no reason...and one second can exist without the second before or the second after.
You explain that to me.
You can't, can you?

To Ann_Tykreisst:
Actually, it was said on the Discovery Channel and anywhere else that they discuss this. I saw it too. The scientists say, "People like to believe in God to take away from the beauty of it all. The Big Bang shows how everything appeared one day from gases and not from some simple creation of God."
We know that God created the universe, and the Big Bang came from Him. That does not take away from the beauty, but adds to it. God is an amazing creator/inventor/painter/anything and everything else.

Answer 4

Googlebig Bang Theory

Answer 5

Actually, most evolutionist and atheist will try to stay away from the Big Bang because something or someone had to cause that bang. I think the confusion comes from earlier thinking in the scientific community that said, basically, something banged from nothing. Can't happen. But, modern scientific research is moving closer and closer to the Big Bang, in the sense that something or Someone caused that bang, and that there is a designer.
That's why evolutionists and atheists will stay away from that: if there was a bang, something or someone outside the universe, therefore not subject to our physical, scientific laws caused it. If something or someone caused it, then why? The Big Bang and design are beginning to answer more and more questions. Evolution still leaves too many holes, the biggest being, but where did it all begin? Is the universe eternal and life just happened, eventually? If you can believe in an eternal rock, then why not an eternal designer. See why they don't want to go there.
bottom line, if you are interested in what modern research has to say about design and the origin of the universe, then there's plenty out there.

Answer 6

THE BIG BANG IS NO MORE!

Theories come and theories go. Numerous scientists now agree that the "big bang" did not, and could not, occur. Scientists have illustrated why the theory is unworkable in many professional books and journals; yet, because of media hype, news coverage, and "nature programs" often aired on TV, the public is largely unaware that scientists disagree sharply upon their diverse speculations. For every theory advanced by man, someone else has advanced facts to prove that theory wrong. Let us look briefly at what some of the scientists themselves say about the big bang theory.
"The French Mathematician, Lecompte de Nouy, examined the laws of probability that a single molecule of high dissymmetry could be formed by the action of chance. De Nouy found that, on an average, the time needed to form one such molecule of our terrestrial globe would be about 10 to the 253 power billions of years. "But," continued de Nouy, ironically, "let us admit that no matter how small the chance it could happen, one molecule could be created by such astronomical odds of chance. However, one molecule is of no use. Hundreds of millions of identical ones are necessary. Thus we either admit the miracle or doubt the absolute truth of science" (Quoted in "Is Science Moving Toward Belief in God?" by Paul A. Fisher, The Wanderer, Nov. 7, 1985; cited in Kingdoms In Conflict, C. Colson, p. 66).
"Probably the strongest argument against a 'big bang' is that when we come to the universe in total and the large number of complex condensed objects in it [stars, planets, etc.], the theory is able to explain so little" (G. Burbidge, Was There Really A Big Bang in Nature?, 233:3640).
"This persistent weakness has haunted the big bang theory ever since the 1930's. It can probably be understood most easily by thinking of what happens when a bomb explodes. After detonation, fragments are thrown into the air, moving with essentially uniform motion. As is well known in physics, uniform motion is inert, capable in itself of doing nothing. It is only when the fragments of a bomb strike a target-a building for example-that anything happens... But in a big bang there are not targets at all, because the whole universe takes part in the explosion. There is nothing for the expanded material to hit against, and after sufficient expansion, the whole affair should go dead" (Fred Hoyle, "The Big Bang in Astronomy," in New Scientist, 92, 1981, pp. 521, 523).
"The Big Bang is pure presumption. There are no physical principles from which it can be deduced that all of the matter in the universe would ever gather together in one location or an explosion would occur if the theoretical aggregation did take place.Theorists have great difficulty in constructing any self-consistent account of the conditions existing at the time of the hypothetical Big Bang. Attempts at mathematical treatment usually lead to concentration of the entire mass of the universe at a point. The central thesis of Big Bang cosmology,' says Joseph Silk, 'is that about 20 billion years ago, any two points in the observable universe were arbitrarily close together. The density of matter at this moment was infinite.'This concept of infinite density is not scientific. It is an idea from the realm of the supernatural, as most scientists realize when they meet infinities in other physical contexts. 'If we get infinity [when we calculate], how can we ever say that this agrees with nature?' This point alone is enough to invalidate the Big Bang theory in all its various forms" (Dewey B. Larson, The Universe of Motion, 1984, p. 415).
"The naive view implies that the universe suddenly came into existence and found a complete system of physical laws waiting to be obeyed" (W.H. McCrea, "Cosmology after Half a Century," Science, Vol. 160, June 1968, p. 1297).

Answer 7

Who created God without another, higher God? Actually, very few people, especially scientists, use the Big Bang Theory to prove anything. Not sure where you got that idea...God tell you this via prayer?

Answer 8

Who created God?

Well, you asked how the Big Bang could have happened without God. So I asked you who created God, trying to make the point that who created who can go on forever. OK, so you say a higher being created God. Who created that higher being ...and so on ...and so on ...and so on. Nobody can answer anything for sure, it's all hypothesis. If you want to believe in God, that's great! I'm not mocking your beliefs, I was just trying to make a point.

Answer 9

One of the ironies of being human is that we can ask questions that we can't answer logically. Why is this? Nobody is quite sure, but it seems as though somehow the brain developed this ability as a by-product of reasoning.

Although we can't know for certain, it's likely that snails and rats and butterflies don't spend their days contemplating the meaning of life, the origins of the universe, etc. Nor do we take these creatures aside and try to explain to them how to bake a cake, or why a log floats in a lake. Obviously they can't comprehend these concepts. Even the most intelligent creatures, dolphins, chimpanzees, can't understand why we have snooze buttons on our alarm clocks.

It's quite possible, likely in fact, that our perceptions of the universe as a "place" with an "origin", that there is a purpose for life, and that something must naturally follow when life ends, are all grossly distorted. In a sense, we might be trying the best we can to answer questions that we can't comprehend the answers to even if we had them, because they are beyond our limited human comprehension. So, if a "supreme being" appeared and tried to explain where the universe came from, it might essentially be the same as us talking to a butterfly.

Some questions just don't have sensible answers. For this reason, more than anything else, humankind created gods and religions. Some gods and religions have fallen away as we have discovered the answers to simple questions like what stars are, and why lighting arcs across the sky, but some questions aren't so easy, so there will most likely always be a need for a god/supreme creator concept of some sort to provide comforting, comprehensible answers to questions such as what came before the Big Bang and what happens to "me" when I die. God, as an answer, is much more digestible to the masses then complex theories, or answers like "I just don't know."

We may never have the answers until we evolve into the next stage of life. I, for one, am content to deal with the matters of today (for there are plenty of them to deal with) that I can answer, and leave the rest to, "I just don't know."

Hope this helps.

RE: YOUR DISPLEASURE WITH OUR ANSWERS....
Cutiepie, clearly you're a obstinate, argumentative child. Plenty of people, myself included, posted plausible answers to your question, ranging from ecclesiastical, to philosophical, to scientific. Despite the moronic phrasing of your question (gases did not create the Big Bang theory, people did) we, the intelligent people, understand that you don't "get" quantum physics, so rather then trying to explain things like singularities and elemental particles, we gave you more mainstream answers.. If you want a discourse in the Big Bang theory there are numerous articles all over the internet that will explain how the initial gasses formed, what caused the galaxies and solar systems to come together, etc. Just Google Big Bang for craps sake, or go buy the DVD Cosmos!

On the other hand, if you just want a simple laypersons explanation, the thinking is that at one time, all matter in the universe was condensed into an infinitely small point known as a singularity. (Don't ask where it came from, because prior to this event, time and physics, and even space itself did not exist, so the question is irrelevant.) At the moment our universe began, the singularity containing all matter and energy "exploded" into existence, creating space, and everything in it, in the process. One form of evidence of this event is the background radiation which you can easily see for yourself by turning on a TV set to a channel with no broadcast. Part of the "snow" on the screen is remnants of the Big Bang. Additional evidence is the observation that everything in the universe seems to be accelerating away from everything else (except, of course, when gravity intrudes.) Increasing entropy can also be considered another type of evidence, as everything seems to be going from a state of order to a state of disorder.

If you still aren't satisfied, then I suggest doing some research, or enroll in some college courses. There are many reasonable explanations for the basic origins of the universe, but since none of us were around 13 billion years ago, we can't say with absolute certainty what took place. We can only examine the universe with devices like radio telescopes, and try to infer what happened from our current understanding of physics, and as crude as this may be, I'll take it any day over "God sneezed and we appeared."

Answer 10

Who created God? is a good question. You're saying the big bang can't have happened without God because it had to come from somewhere. They're working on that (visit the CERN site), but still, if God made the big bang happen, God had to come from somewhere too.