Did Lucifer rebel in heaven and take 1/3rd of the other angels with him?

Question

Then how can Christians claim that angels don't have free will like we do, and that is why we can be saved and the demons (fallen angels) can't. Don't they teach logic in Sunday school?

Answer 1

I've never heard anyone say angels don't have free will, Lucifer did try to rebel and chose to leave Heavan, but no, no other angels went with him.

Answer 2

Yes, Lucifer did rebel in heaven and take 1/3 of the other angels with him.(see Ezekiel 28:12-17, Isaiah 14). Just because he chose to rebel and 1/3 of the angels followed him, does not mean that he had the right to make that decision. Logic dictates, that if he had a right to make a decision to declare himself God and take over heaven, GOD would not have kicked him out. Angels are created spirit beings, but they were not created in the image and likeness of GOD (Genesis chapter 2 & 3). Angels were created to live forever. The reason Christians say angels cannot be saved is because they can't.. Jesus Christ came into the world to same mankind from the sin that Adam and Eve commited in the Garden of Eden caused us to die physically and spiritually and completely separated mankind from GOD. The bible say, without the shedding of blood their is no remission (forgiveness, cleansing) of sin (disobedience, rebellion). Logically angels have no blood, so how can they be saved. since you want answers on angels, I recommend a book by Lester Sumrall called Angels to Help You

Answer 3

The reason they cannot be saved is the same reason satan cannot be saved. It is because they have chosen to dwell in a level of false reality where saved does not exist. The first thing is that they would have to be convinced that they had made a mistake. At this time and space they are still fighting to establish the false reality, that to them is real. It is called deceived, and that is what a lot of people are that think they have the answer. The answer does not come until you surrrender ALL. That means pre conceived idealisms too. It means religion too. It means ALL, good bad and indeifferent. When you do this, then the TRUTH can finally find it space that has been reserved for it only. There cannot be any baggage atttached to it.

Answer 4

Of course they have free will. When God made Satan he was perfect. And quite a likable fellow. I mean a 1/3 of the angels followed him and thought he was right. Must have had a good story to get them to fight with Micheal and his angels.
Revelation 12:7 says micheal and his angels and satan and his angels showing two oposeing partys and called it a war.
They are perfect and a direct creation. Just as Adam was.
We inherited sin from Adam and so we can be forgiven because in a lot of cases we don't know any better. They did know the truth. They were never fooled. We can be fooled into sin.
They chose to sin. There is a difference many religious leaders tell people to do things that are against Gods will so should we be punished when we listen to them? Thinking they know whats the right thing to do.

Answer 5

And what makes you think demons are fallen angels?

The angels that rebelled are bound in chains of Tarturus until the day of judgment. They are not demons.

Lucifer's rebellion took a third part of the "stars of heaven". Not solely angels.

Angels do have free will. But angels, demons, cherubs, sons of God and other heavenly host cannot be saved because Jesus is not their kinsman redeemer. They aren't of the seed of Adam and Eve.

Are you basing your rejection of Christ on weak stuff like this?

Better re-think.

Answer 6

Satan was God's favorite angel and his most beautiful. Satan wanted to have more power than God so he rebelled. God cast him out of heaven with a third of the angels. They are no longer angels but are now demons. Satan is the liar. He tells us it is okay to do drugs and drink and let our bodies be used. He says go and gamble your money away. He tells us you have no hope and you are hopeless. He says don't believe in God or Jesus it is a fairytale. Funny though after we drink and smoke and do what ever we never really feel great, we feel hung over and ashamed. Then Jesus steps in and says I will forgive you and love you no matter what. Lean on me and I will carry you when you are too weak to walk through the pain alone. I will never leave you or forsake you. Love, Faith, Hope. They are not a lie. Find love in your heart. peace.

Answer 7

Yes Angels have free will. But Jesus died for the salvation of the human race only. Are you saved already or you are an angel?

Answer 8

No, Lucifer (Satan) thought he was better than God, so he got cast out of Heaven. And they do teach logic in my Sunday School.

Answer 9

hi there, yes it is true that lucifer did take angels with him, angels were the first creatons of god and he gave them free will, god gave lucifer free will to wonder between heavan and earth. christians dont claim that god would chose humans over demons, god will save anybody who repents for their sins against him.

Answer 10

Actually they should be in Saturday school!

God says: “…Surely My Sabbaths you shall keep, for it is a sign between Me and you throughout your generations, that you may know that I am the LORD who sanctifies you. You shall keep the Sabbath, therefore, for it is holy to you. Everyone who profanes it shall surely be put to death; for whoever does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from among his people. Work shall be done for six days, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. Therefore the children of Israel shall keep the Sabbath, to observe the Sabbath throughout their generations as a perpetual covenant. It is a sign between Me and the children of Israel forever; for in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day He rested and was refreshed” (Exodus 31:13-18).
Notice that God says the Sabbath is a sign between Him and His people. It points directly to Creation week; thus, the Sabbath is an ongoing reminder of the Creator. Its purpose is to keep knowledge of the Creator perpetually in the minds of His people. Also, it is a “holy convocation” (Leviticus 23:3), or special time for assembly of God’s people, who are described as those who “keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ” (Revelation 12:17).
The true worshipers, then, will be keeping the Ten Commandments. One cannot imagine a true worshiper bowing down before an idol, or taking God’s name in vain, or serving false gods. But how many who profess to be “true worshipers,” or “Christians,” completely disregard or even reject the Fourth Commandment?
Christians who keep the seventh-day Sabbath are often thought to be “a little strange.” Sabbath-keeping churches are often labeled “cults.” Seldom does one find in a Christian book store material promoting Sabbath observance. Literature against Sabbath-keeping is far more common.
Yet, James writes: “For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all. For He who said, ‘Do not commit adultery,’ also said, ‘Do not murder.’ Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law” (James 2:10, 11).
If we break one point of the Decalogue, James says, we are guilty of violating the whole law. If we neither kill nor commit adultery, but do break the Sabbath, we are guilty of breaking the law—we are transgressors, sinners. He who said, “Do not commit adultery!” and “Do not kill!” also said, “Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy!”
Some, however, insist that the Fourth Commandment is the one commandment of the Decalogue that has been abolished. But notice that the Sabbath is called a “perpetual covenant”—meaning a continuing covenant—between God and His people. Not one word in the entire Bible even remotely suggests that the perpetual Sabbath covenant was to come to an end with the advent of Christianity.
In fact, the prophet Isaiah gives us good reason to believe that the Sabbath covenant will continue into the Millennium. Speaking of that period, he writes, “’And it shall come to pass That from one New Moon to another, And from one Sabbath to another, All flesh shall come to worship before Me,’ says the LORD” (Isaiah 66:23).
The phrase “all flesh” indicates that Israel as well as the Gentile nations will be keeping the Sabbath. This concurs with Zechariah’s prophecy concerning the same period. The prophet writes, “And it shall come to pass that everyone who is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles” (Zechariah 14:16).
With two prophecies of inspired Scripture positively confirming the fact that all nations will observe God’s weekly and annual Sabbaths during the Millennium, how can anyone claim that these observances are not for Christians today?
Summary
Those who reject the Sabbath would do well to carefully consider the following summary of scriptural facts:
1. The Sabbath was made at Creation; it was made for man.
2. The continuing cycle of Sabbaths, occurring every seventh day, was never lost. It was carefully preserved by both Jews and Christians.
3. The Sabbath was to be a sign between God and His true people.
4. The Sabbath was to be a perpetual covenant.
5. The command to keep holy the seventh day is found in the Decalogue, alongside commandments against idolatry, blasphemy, murder, adultery, and so on.
6. The importance of keeping the Sabbath (from God’s perspective) is seen in the punishment Sabbath-breaking brought upon Israel.
7. The prophets tell us that both Israelites and Gentiles will keep God’s weekly and annual Sabbaths during the Millennium.
When we add to the above the fact that Jesus Christ kept the Sabbath, the fact that the apostles and early New Testament church kept the Sabbath, and the fact that both Christ and the apostles upheld the so-called “Old Testament law,” the only conclusion we can come to is that we should be keeping the Sabbath!
Contrary to what you may have been told, the Sabbath day is not a burden; it is not a “yoke of bondage”; it is not an outdated “Mosaic” commandment that does not apply today.
The Sabbath was made for mankind—all mankind.
It was made for you.