Since you say the bible is truth let me give you something biblical to read. Check it out in your own if you like.
(Genesis 1:26) The [Elohim] said, "Let us make humanity in our own image, in the likeness of ourselves, and let them be masters of the fish of the sea, the birds of heaven, the cattle, all the wild beasts and all the reptiles that crawl upon the earth." Elohim is a plural word, including male and female, and should properly be translated "Gods" or "Pantheon." (1: 27) The Gods created humanity in the image of themselves, In the image of the Gods they created them, Male and female they created them. (1:28) The Gods blessed them, saying to them, "Be fruitful, multiply, fill the earth and conquer it. Be masters of the fish of the sea, the birds of heaven and all living animals on the earth."
Now clearly, here we are talking about the original creation of the human species: male and female. All the animals, plants, etc. have all been created in previous verses. This is before the Garden of Eden, and Yahweh is not mentioned as the creator of these people.
The next chapter talks about how Yahweh, an individual member of the Pantheon, goes about assembling his own special little botanical and zoological Garden in Eden, and making his own little man to inhabit it: (Gen 2:7) Yahweh God fashioned a man of dust from the soil. Then he breathed into his nostrils a breath of life, and thus the man became a living being. (2:8) Yahweh God planted a garden in Eden which is in the east, and there he put the man he had fashioned. (2:9) Yahweh God caused to spring up from the soil every kind of tree, enticing to look at and good to eat, with the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil in the middle of the garden. (2:15) Yahweh God took the man and settled him in the garden of Eden to cultivate and take care of it. Now this next is crucial: note Yahweh's precise words: (2:16) Then Yahweh God gave the man this admonition, "You may eat indeed of all the trees in the garden. (2:17) Nevertheless of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you are not to eat, for on the day you eat of it you shall most surely die." Fateful words, those. We will refer back to this admonition later.
Then Yahweh decides to make a woman to go with the man. Now, don't forget that the Pantheon had earlier created a whole population of people, "male and female," who are presumably doing just fine somewhere "outside the gates of Eden." But this set-up in Eden is Yahweh's own little experiment, and will unfold to its own separate destiny. (2:21) So Yahweh God made the man fall into a deep sleep. And while he slept, he took one of his ribs and enclosed it in flesh. (2:22) Yahweh God built the rib he had taken from the man into a woman, and brought her to the man. Right. Man gives birth to woman. Sure he does. But that's the way the story is told here. (2:25) Now both of them were naked, the man and his wife, but they felt no shame in front of each other. Well, of course not! Why should they? But take careful note of those words, as they also will prove to be significant...
Now this next part is where it starts to get interesting. Enter the Serpent: (Gen. 3:1) The serpent was the most subtle of all the wild beasts that Yahweh God had made. It asked the woman, "Did God really say you were not to eat from any of the trees in the garden?" (3:2) The woman answered the serpent, "We may eat the fruit of the trees in the garden. (3:3) "But of the fruit of the tree in the middle of the garden God said, 'You must not eat it, nor touch it, under pain of death." (3:4) Then the serpent said to the woman, "No! You will not die! (3:5) "God knows in fact that on the day you eat it your eyes will be opened and you will be like gods, knowing good and evil." What a remarkable statement! "Your eyes will be opened and you will be like gods, knowing good and evil." The Serpent directly contradicts Yahweh. Obviously, one of them has to be lying. Which one, do you suppose? And, if the serpent speaks true, wouldn't you wish to eat of the magic fruit? Wouldn't it be a good thing, to become "like gods, knowing good and evil"? Or is it preferable to remain in ignorance?
(Gen. 3:6) The woman saw that the tree was good to eat and pleasing to the eye, and that it was desirable for the knowledge that it could give. So she took some of its fruit and ate it. She gave some also to her husband who was with her, and he ate it. (3:7) Then the eyes of both of them were opened and they realized that they were naked. So they sewed fig leaves together to make themselves loincloths. The author makes an interesting assumption here: that if you realize you are naked you will automatically want to cover yourself. Further implications will unfold shortly...
(Gen. 3:8) The man and his wife heard the sound of Yahweh God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from Yahweh God among the trees of the garden. (3:9) But Yahweh God called to the man. "Where are you?" he asked. (3:10) "I heard the sound of you in the garden," he replied. "I was afraid because I was naked, so I hid." (3:11) "Who told you that you were naked?" he asked. "Have you been eating of the tree I forbade you to eat?"
And so the sign of the Fall becomes modesty. Take note of this. The descendants of Adam and Eve will be distinguished throughout history from virtually all other peoples by their obsessive modesty taboos, wherein they will feel ashamed of being naked. It follows that those who feel no shame in being naked are, by definition, not carriers of this spiritual disease of original sin!
(Gen. 3:12) The man replied, "It was the woman you put with me; she gave me the fruit, and I ate it." Right. Blame the woman. What a turkey! (3:13) Then Yahweh God asked the woman, "What is this you have done?" The woman replied, "The serpent tempted me and I ate." So of course she blames the serpent. But just what did the serpent do that was so evil? Why, he called Yahweh a liar! Was he wrong? Let's see... (3:21) Yahweh God made clothes out of skins for the man and his wife, and they put them on. Out of skins? This means that Yahweh had to kill some innocent animals to pander to Adam and Eve's new obsession with modesty!
And now we come to the crux of the Fall. Yahweh had said back there in chapter (2:17), regarding the fruit of the tree of knowledge, that "on the day you eat of it you shall most surely die." The Serpent, on the other hand, had contradicted Yahweh in chapter (3:4-5): "No! You will not die! God knows in fact that on the day you eat it your eyes will be opened and you will be like gods, knowing good and evil." So what actually happened? Who lied and who told the truth about this remarkable fruit? The answer is given in the next verse: (3:22) Then Yahweh God said, "See, the man has become like one of us, with his knowledge of good and evil. He must not be allowed to stretch his hand out next and pick from the tree of life also, and eat some and live forever."
Get that? Yahweh himself admits that he had lied! In fact, and in Yahweh's own words, the Serpent spoke the absolute truth! And moreover, Yahweh tells the rest of the Pantheon that he intends to evict Adam (and presumably Eve as well) to keep them from gaining immortality to go with their newly-acquired divine knowledge. To prevent them, in other words, from truly becoming gods! So who, in this story, comes off as a benefactor of humanity, and who comes off as a tyrant? THE SERPENT NEVER LIED!
try to dispute this!
2006-08-15 11:54:58
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answered by ldyrhiannon 4
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I am a christian.
And can you please not call them ignorant that's not nice.
Anyway, Just because you told them that the Bible is true doesnt mean they will believe you. But you must keep trying.
A person can be told the sky is purple all his life and then one day someone told its blue. How will anyone take it.
I understand how you might feel and I wish everyone believe in
their heart.
It takes time for people to accept things even if it true. But lets not get mad but continue and pray that one day they will believe. Hopefully before its to late. We are all ignorant one way or another. God's word is were we can find the ANSWERS!
I am sure you know that but "Hold On Change Is Coming....Everything Is Going To Be All Right"
2006-08-08 11:47:56
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answered by aquamoon006 2
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The truth is that they're not. Just as not all Christians are ignorant, although some may be.
I see a lot of opinion in your writing, but not a lot of fact. Simply study the roots of mathematics for example and you will find a multi rooted development.
And as for your loving and smartest people, I'll remember that the next time I see a Ku Klux Klan rally and they're spouting their hate and intolerance. They do of course claim to be christian and use the sign of the cross. And no, I don't think that makes all Christians that way, I just think we need a reality check. And please don't fall back on the old "we're not perfect, just forgiven" ploy, it's gotten stale.
2006-08-16 01:51:22
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answered by Magic One 6
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Atheists and non believers are so ignorant because they ignore the God existence.They based his thought on their brain only.
They know that this earth as what it is.They think this universe are ready for them without a creator.God's laws is received by them as a nature laws.They do not know that everything has a creator and arranger.They do not receive and believe that there are so many thing which can not be seen by our eyes such as angles,satans. but they are exist in this earth.Their believe is so shallow.
2006-08-14 21:01:45
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answered by ? 7
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Sounds like a rant rather than a question. Everything you're saying is subjective and is only true to people with your mind set. And I do mean mind set. You are completely unable to see other people as the beautiful complex intelligent open minded human beings that they are. You only see someone who you really can't see because, uh, he's invisible and unproven. That's right, we can't all have the same imaginary friend because we each have our own imagination. You can't honestly think the majority of intelligent people would believe in something that can't be seen, doesn't work in practice, and can't be proven on any level? The only thing we can agree on is the golden rule, which exists in many cultures, not just yours. And one more thing...the name calling, not exactly condusive to friendship and doesn't open any ears. You people are judgemental. And no, history doesn't begin with the supposed birth of Jesus.
2006-08-08 11:34:52
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answered by Anonymous
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Hi Mr bibleman_the_great
First of all I'm a believer. I believe in God and that Jesus Christ died on the Cross and paid for my sin, I agree with you completely.
I think our problem here is about Communication, and Respect.
However, you said "I told lots of them hundered of times that--don't be blind..." ? I would not approach non-believers that way.
Nowadays, I mean, especially nowadays, freedom is VERY, VERY important, which makes people more confident to their own beliefs than ever. And we do become more defensive especially when we're told to do something, not to mention when you're told to 'believe' in something that you don't.
So, Mr bibleman_the_great, I think as long as you have done your best to spread the gospel, to witness for Christ, it is enough. God has given us a Choice to believe in Him or Not. If you've done your Best, that's okay! Of Course God intended to save all of us, but Only a small portion will be saved. And if we use harsh words and attempt to force people to believe in God and call the non-believers 'ignorant', it would only mis-represent God as a forceful, non-merciful, and judgemental God.
Thank God that we have people like you who are so willingly spreading the Gospel. Please continue your work!
Praise God.
I Hope it helps.
2006-08-08 11:59:25
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answered by whatisthis 3
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Please, wait a moment..
'These' people, are not ignorant by any means..
Do you recall what brought you to the Lord.. and do you recall that perhaps you had some doubt in the beginning, or later on.. did you leave the path.. and follow something else.. maybe you were tricked..
'These' people, are perhaps the ones our Lord loves most.. Why? Because they need His love.. even if they won't admit it.
True, we are our Lords.. we acknowledge that.. they haven't, yet.. the Lord will wait patiently, much as He had for both you and myself.. God only knows I turned away.. and returned.
Instead of putting 'these' people down, quietly thank the Lord, that He is patient.. and waits for them to turn around.. and see His face.. pick up their cross and follow.
'These' people.. they're not beautiful? They're not loving, and give of themselves? Come on sweetie.. don't judge.. it's not your place.
All in God's time.. not theirs, and certainly not ours..
God bless..
2006-08-08 11:47:39
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answered by sassy 6
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You gotta be on drugs!
You give christians a bad name. You are obviously not bright enough to even try to discuss your topic.
You know the definition of a FANATIC? Someone who has one topic, one view of that topic, and won't shut up.
The most beautiful women are Christians? Ever hear of Helen of TROY? She was so beautiful a war was fought for her. Pagan.
Cleopatra? Pagan. Aphrodite-Goddess of Beauty? Pagan.
Scientists get their ideas from the bible? Like gravity, evolution, DNA. vaccines, dinosaurs-Chapter and verse, please.
If you are a christian and supposed to be showing how smart they are-you missed-READ MORE-LISTEN MORE.
Chinese/Egyptians were doing math a thousand years before the Old Testament was written down.
I am an atheist and a non-believer of just about every one of your sentences.
I also have a higher than average IQ, college, and 56 years of living to back my ideas.
What have you besides a god-complex (SUPERMAN AVATAR) and babbling?
2006-08-16 10:11:56
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answered by Lottie W 6
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It is hard sometimes to understand how the truth is right there, and they choose to reject it. I always think of this verse when I wonder why.
2 Timothy 4:3-5 says--"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. But you be watchful in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry."
2006-08-08 11:37:11
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answered by jesusfreak 1
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1 Cor 2:14
2006-08-15 17:03:11
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answered by lonevader 1
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i am the most awesome person on the planet. i am a beautiful, intelligent, funny, loving, and interesting person with much to offer the world. and i am an atheist. i try to live everyday to the fullest so that when i die i will have no regrets. i do not hate christians. however, i do hate ignorance. you, sir, are one of the most prejudiced imbeciles i've come across.
2006-08-16 13:54:44
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answered by miss advice 4
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