Where did the concept of 'trinity' originated? Can anyone explain this concept of 'trinity' to me?

Question

There is NOT a single verse in the Bible mentioning 'trinity'.
Neither anywhere in Bible, Jesus Christ ever said "i m God"
nor did He say "Worship Me".

So, what i have come to know through TheSinger .............. that Bible did not remain the word of God, as it was written by

different apostles ......... i know i know u'll tell me the message was same, i agree with u, but every apostle gave his own

view for his group of ppl, so it came abt to be the message of GOD in the word of apostles, because even a small mixture in

GOD's Word by human alteration does NOT let it remain the GOD's word.

Jesus said: "I and the Father are one." (John 10:30)

"He who has seen Me has seen the Father." (John 14:9)

"He who beholds Me beholds the One who sent Me." (John 12:45)

If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. (Rom. 8:9)

"Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and

how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?"
-- John 14:9

These verses means to me, that Jesus Christ was reporting that the message being given by Jesus Christ was the same message

God wanted to be delivered for the ppl ............ For example, in an office, a message-boy delivers the message of the boss

to the staff, but that doesnt make the message boy and the boss to be One. The Spirit of Jesus Christ is The Message He

delivered by GOD's Command.

[Jesus speaking to His disciples] "And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you

forever; the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not behold Him or know Him, but you know Him

because He abides with you, and will be in you." ... "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him,

and We will come to him, and make Our abode with him." (John 14:16-17, 23)

Now, this verse is a clear sign that Prophet Jesus (Peace Be Upon Him) was foretelling the forth-coming of Prophet Mohammad (May Peace and Blessing of ALLAH be Upon Him), just like every other Prophet (Peace Be Upon Them) have foretold That. Prophet Mohammad (Peace Be Upon Him) is the "another helper/comforter", "the spirit of Truth". It is just like as it is said, that those ppl who do not know Prophet Mohammad (Peace Be Upon Him), they not abide by Him, but Christians should have had abode Him, b/c he was giving THE Same Message as was given by Prophet Jesus (Peace Be Upon Him), the message was already within the true Christians, so there should have been any problem abiding by Prophet Mohammad (Peace Be Upon Him), and GOD as well as Prophet Jesus (Peace Be Upon Him) would have loved them who would have loved Prophet Jesus (Peace Be Upon Him) and who would have had kept His word by following "another Helper/Comforter" i.e. Prophet Mohammad (Peace Be Upon Him).

Answer 1

Trinity means a triune God, which is God in three parts: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

In Christian belief, each Person of the Trinity is God complete. The Father is God complete, the Son is God complete, and the Holy Spirit is God complete. Let's do this mathematically:

One Person of the trinity alone:
1/3 = 1

Two Persons of the trinity together:
2/3 = 1

All three Persons of the trinity together:
3/3 = 1

Only the third option makes mathematical sense. This idea of 1/3 = 1 is illogical. The trinity doctrine is a false doctrine, pure and simple.

The Comma Johanneum is the only Biblical "proof" of the trinity. It's found in 1 John 5:7, which states:
"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." (KJV)

The Comma makes its way into the text of the Bible no earlier than in the 16th century. It's nowhere found in the Greek documents, so it's a FALSE ADDITION. One is to COMPLETELY DISREGARD it as true Biblical scripture. Woe be to those who stuck it in there!

God is ONE, not three, not two, not four, not eight, He is ONE.

"Anyone who can worship a trinity and insist that his religion is a monotheism can believe anything."
~ Robert A. Heinlein

Answer 2

Your quite right. There is no trinity mentioned in the Bible. It is a pagan concept that has been adopted by some Christian religions. Many of the worlds religions have three spirits of equal power that are thought to effect their worshipers and impose laws or conditions on their lives. The Bible does speak of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit and some have interpreted this as three persons. However, the Bible is clear that the Father is the superior. Jesus told us he was not equal to God, Matthew 24:36, and should not be worshiped, Luke 4:8. The Holy Spirit was called a helper not an equal, John 14:26.

Answer 3

Trinity" is a term that is not found in the Bible but a word used to describe what is apparent (his character) about God in the Scriptures. The Bible clearly speaks of God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ), and God the Holy Spirit...and also clearly presents that there is only one God. Thus the term: "Tri" meaning three, and "Unity" meaning one, Tri+Unity = Trinity. It is a way of acknowledging what the Bible reveals to us about God, that God is yet three "Persons" who have the same essence of deity. Just the same as we are who are created by him - we are a spirit , we live in a body and we possess a soul. There are three parts of us. The spirit - is the true person we are - holy and pure, responding to the spirit of God and who has his nature. The body -is the physical 'house' in which we live. The spirit must be "contained or housed" and the physical body is what we have to live with until it cannot live any longer. It returns to the dust and the spirit lives on. The soul is where our emotions are contained . "Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD is one!" (Deut. 6:4)

"I am the LORD, and there is no other; Besides Me there is no God." (Isa. 45:5)

There is no God but one. (1Cor. 8:4)

And after being baptized, Jesus went up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove, and coming upon Him, and behold, a voice out of the heavens, saying, "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well-pleased." (Matt. 3:16-17)

"Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit." (Matt. 28:19)

Jesus said: "I and the Father are one." (John 10:30)

"He who has seen Me has seen the Father." (John 14:9)

"He who beholds Me beholds the One who sent Me." (John 12:45)

If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. (Rom. 8:9)

"Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife; for that which has been conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit." (Matt. 1:20)

And the angel answered and said to her [Mary], "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; and for that reason the holy offspring shall be called the Son of God." (Luke 1:35)

[Jesus speaking to His disciples] "And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever; the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not behold Him or know Him, but you know Him because He abides with you, and will be in you." ... "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him, and make Our abode with him." (John 14:16-17, 23) These are just some of the scriptures to support the latter part of your question. The Bible does make reference that when we worship, we must worship God in spirit and in truth. Keep in mind that if you believe the word of God, then you know, the passages written are all inspired "by God" to certain people to write - and many of those people were writing to 'their own kind". (If you read the gospels, you'll know what I mean - the same messages, but a little twist - just because writers came from different backgrounds and wrote to different groups.

Answer 4

Hi, Valentino.

I'd like to know where you heard of the concept of the "Holy Trinity." Most people don't just offer that phrase without including some kind of explanation or biblical reference, because it is a difficult concept and, as you have rightly stated, it is not mentioned in a single verse of the bible.

Your other two questions seem to be button-pushers, but that's just my interpretation so I need to deal with it. You just keep asking questions, we'll get you an answer as long as you continue to be sincere.

But let me ask a question or two. Your questions about Jesus seem like the tip of the iceberg. Are you really asking "Is there a Jesus Christ as reported in the bible, and if so, should I Worship him?"

If you are in fact that concerned about things Christological, let's keep talking. (I don't know if you are an atheist, but I often wonder why atheists waste their time with Christianity. When I was an atheist, I had much better things to do than worry about Jesus.)

Looking forward to a response!

Answer 5

the thought is particularly common to describe, yet information that concept is particularly impossible. God the daddy, Jesus the Son and the Holy Spirit are one interior the comparable being, inspite of the undeniable fact that seperate of their movements and their identities. the daddy is the lawgiver and the decide. The Son is the giver of grace, salvation and acts because of the fact the middleman between guy and the daddy. The Holy Spirit is the area of the Trinity the creates the bond between God and guy, acts because of the fact the voice of the Trinity and brings the salvation presented by applying the Son. it extremely is extremely what the Trinity is. Wrapping your suggestions around the theory that 3 person beings exist as one and as 3 will soften your suggestions. =P

Answer 6

trinity came from pagans long before christ was born of mary
How Did the Trinity Doctrine Develop?

AT THIS point you might ask: ‘If the Trinity is not a Biblical teaching, how did it become a doctrine of Christendom?’ Many think that it was formulated at the Council of Nicaea in 325 C.E.

That is not totally correct, however. The Council of Nicaea did assert that Christ was of the same substance as God, which laid the groundwork for later Trinitarian theology. But it did not establish the Trinity, for at that council there was no mention of the holy spirit as the third person of a triune Godhead.

Constantine’s Role at Nicaea

FOR many years, there had been much opposition on Biblical grounds to the developing idea that Jesus was God. To try to solve the dispute, Roman emperor Constantine summoned all bishops to Nicaea. About 300, a fraction of the total, actually attended.

Constantine was not a Christian. Supposedly, he converted later in life, but he was not baptized until he lay dying. Regarding him, Henry Chadwick says in The Early Church: “Constantine, like his father, worshipped the Unconquered Sun; . . . his conversion should not be interpreted as an inward experience of grace . . . It was a military matter. His comprehension of Christian doctrine was never very clear, but he was sure that victory in battle lay in the gift of the God of the Christians.”

What role did this unbaptized emperor play at the Council of Nicaea? The Encyclopædia Britannica relates: “Constantine himself presided, actively guiding the discussions, and personally proposed . . . the crucial formula expressing the relation of Christ to God in the creed issued by the council, ‘of one substance with the Father’ . . . Overawed by the emperor, the bishops, with two exceptions only, signed the creed, many of them much against their inclination.”

Hence, Constantine’s role was crucial. After two months of furious religious debate, this pagan politician intervened and decided in favor of those who said that Jesus was God. But why? Certainly not because of any Biblical conviction. “Constantine had basically no understanding whatsoever of the questions that were being asked in Greek theology,” says A Short History of Christian Doctrine. What he did understand was that religious division was a threat to his empire, and he wanted to solidify his domain.

None of the bishops at Nicaea promoted a Trinity, however. They decided only the nature of Jesus but not the role of the holy spirit. If a Trinity had been a clear Bible truth, should they not have proposed it at that time?

Answer 7

As I see you already do not believe nor do you WANT to believe in the Trinity, someone denying it will get "best answer" because you'll like it better... but for someone who might be reading and really interested I will show them:

1 John 5:7-8 7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and THREE ARE ONE
8And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: AND THESE THREE AGREE IN ONE

Trinity simply means "Three in One" if you are into semantics, thinking something is false unless the Bible uses the word, remember the word Bible is never in the Bible either ;)

John 8:58-59 58"I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!" 59At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.

God told Moses to tell people "I AM" sent me.. "I AM" is a name for God.. YHVH means "self existant" God's name in itself is I AM... Jesus said "Before Abraham was born I AM" meaning He is God. That is why the Jews imediately tried to stone him.

To worship means to praise, bow to, glorify, highly honor or esteem-- did people worship Jesus? Should we do it?
Phil 2:10-11 10that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.

Rev 5:13 Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all that is in them, singing: "To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be praise and honor and glory and power, for ever and ever!"

Every one will do it eventually, may as well do it now.

Answer 8

Jesus Christ is the "I AM" or God Himself in a visible body.

"For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily."
-- Colossians 2:9

"Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?"
-- John 14:9

"Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you Before Abraham was, I AM."
-- John 8:58

Answer 9

Trinity just means three. The Son, The Father, and The Holy Spirit.

We don't worship Jesus, we worship God through Jesus Christ.

Matthew 4:10 This is Christ speaking.

10-Then saith Jesus unto him, GET THEE HENCE, SATAN: FOR IT IS WRITTEN, THOU SHALT WORSHIP THE LORD THY GOD, AND HIM ONLY SHALT THOU SERVE.

Answer 10

The concept is distorted from the mention of the GODHEAD, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in the Bible.