Questions to Atheist again?

Question

Lets just say currently I didnt know which way to go...
I first look at the question is there a God?
Atheist claim there is no God, but they can't prove it.
So why should I believe this, rather than believing in a God?

So I wanted to know the truth being open minded I looked?
When I looked to history I see events that tooks place. Maybe World War 2, and say hey I believe it happend. Since so many people wrote about it, there is substancial evidence. Then there is gravity I can't see it, however I knew through test, that it still exists. Now the bible tells about a man named Jesus who rose again from the dead..So why should I believe that,, well because there were thousands of witnesses seeing him crucified, and he was seen by over a 100 people after he rose again. Why would 11 of the disciples be martyered if it was a fraud? Why else should I believe the bible, because it explains what happend in the very begining, God created the Earth.

It not only explains that truth, but it tells about whats going to happen before it does. The prophecy written in the bible all have come to past. Just like its says Israel, will become a nation, after it was almost wiped out from the face of the Earth.. Did you ever wonder why the entire wolrd is focused on Israel?

But anyhow why should I be an Atheist?
Give me reasons?

Nobody is giving me legitimate answers..Why do you hate christianity so much if we believe in fairy's?

Answer 1

Unbelievers cannot prove God doesn't exist. But believers cannot prove he exists either. Now, if I told you there is somewhere in the world a yellow and blue striped dog with special powers to see through things, would you believe me? I wouldn't be able to prove it to you, but since I'm not telling you where exactly this dog is supposed to be, you wouldn't be able to tell me it doesn't exist. Because it could just be anywhere. So, does that dog exist?

My point is: Why bother to believe in someone who claims something exists, if he can't prove its existence? Especially, if people like this have been trying to manipulate you into doing things for two thousand years, in the name of that allegedly existing being. BTW, that's why I hate Christianity so much.

And as to the Bible, it only gives ONE possible explanation of what happened. Even if it were the only explanation, that wouldn't prove it's the truth. It may as well prove humanity hasn't found out yet how things happened. Why are you so arrogant to believe we've already come to a definite answer? Isn't arrogance kind of a sin?

Answer 2

First and foremost, you're idea of atheists is completely jaded, who told the lie that all atheists believe that there is not god. I don't know what atheists you have spoken to but I believe that there is a god, he just isn't how the Holy Bible, the Koran, or the Torah describes him to be. Of course that is my opinion, not a fact. The fact that someone else may believe that there is a god is an opinion and not a fact. At any rate, just because a lot of people say something happened or a person existed does not make it so, pigeon droppers and con artists have been around since forever, hoaxes do exist as does urban legends and myths. You mentioned WW2 and gravity, true you've never seen either of the two but you believe them to have happened or is still happening, the key term you used in your question is EVIDENCE. what evidence to do you have that whatever god it is that you believe in exists?
Yes some claim there is no god and can't prove, but can you prove that there is a god?

Answer 3

You might want to be an agnostic like me. You can not prove God exist any better than you can prove he does not. Even with all the things that you have said, you have really said nothing. There will always be wars, anyone can prophesies about that. Did you ever think it was the fact that the president at the time of WW2 was a Christian and saw fit to give the Jews back their land? Yeah, it was our president at the time that gave that land to them, that's why all the Muslims over there are so pissed off about it. As far as Jesus rising from the dead, how many Elvis sightings have you heard about? I don't know about you but I have heard a lot. The witness of people is flawed, and it will always be flawed. We know that WW2 took place because we have this stuff called film footage, not to mention that some people that fought in WW2 are still alive, as well as some of the Jews that were in concentration camps, try to tell them that WW2 didn't exist.

Answer 4

We have pictures of world war 2.

Gravity exists otherwise we'd float off the earth.

Neither of the two examples you gave were supernatural.

As an Atheist, I personally don't have a problem with the historical account of Jesus, except maybe the whole thing was made up. The bible was written thirty to forty years after his death and ammended many times after. Jesus wasn't the only person who had claimed he was the son of a god that there is no evidence of, and wasn't the only person crucified on the cross.

The problem comes in with all of the supernatural nonsense. There is no evidence of god(s) or supernatural events, except for other peoples beliefs and books written about beliefs.

We know that war and gravity exist. We can't disprove things that there are evidence of. I've seen pictures of world war 2 and gravity is holding me down at this very moment, but there is no evidence of the supernatural.

Answer 5

In all fairness, the things you wrote are easy enough to debunk. Not that that means they are false, just that they can have some doubt thrown on them. You write about WW2 and that because so many wrote about it that must prove it happened. Only thing is there are still people alive who actually saw @WW2 happen, the ones who saw Jesus rise up from death died before anyone questioned it happening. They also had a reason to lie (not that I'm saying they did but they did have a reason to) in that they wanted to prove that Jesus was divine and so may have wanted others to believe it badly enough they were willing to lie for it.

There is also the fact that you don't really know that gravity exists. I'm not saying it doesn't, but the theory is that because the earth has mass it pulls on everything around it (all things that have mass including us pull on things around them, but we are too small to really pull enough to feel anything, the earth is big enough to pull us) or so the reasoning goes. But there is an interesting thing that showed up on the Mir (the Russian space station). When it was sent spinning, gravity showed up on the station that wasn't there before. The mass of the station didn't change, so maybe gravity doesn't exist (or at least the way we were taught that it works). Yet we continue to believe it, despite the fact it may not be true.

Those 11 disciples you ask about as well. Why were they martyred. They were martyred because they taught that people should follow Jesus instead of the accepted person at the time, Caesar. They went against the norm and were killed for it. The FBI went in on David Koresh and we know he was wrong, but he was killed for it. Are you really sure those disciples weren't the same deal. Again I do believe in God and the Christian version of God (Jehovah with Jesus as His son), but you are attacking in a way that is easy to punch holes through. Which is precisely why there are so many atheists, because every Christian attack on their beliefs is so easily knocked back down (even by someone who believes it to be true).

The basic fact is that the Bible has evidence going for it, but not enough to say it is what happened beyond a shadow of a doubt. Evolution is the same way, it has evidence but not enough to prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt. In essence, this is a faith thing for both sides and you must realize this before you verbally attack others. You must show reasoning (and really think about it because there is a lot of reasoning on both sides that is correct thinking but only one leads to the right conclusion) and above all peace, that is the only way you will be able to convince anyone (Atheists, Muslims, Jews, Christians who believe in a different form of Christianity and so many others).

Answer 6

You shouldn't

"The prophecy written in the bible all have come to past"

No they have not. I could give you a list of false prophecy if you like. Skip it if not. Even the gospels predicted Jesus to return in their lifetimes. False prophets.

God says that if Adam eats from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, then the day that he does so, he will die. But later Adam eats the forbidden fruit (3:6) and yet lives for another 930 years (5:5). 2:17

As a punishment for killing Abel, God says Cain will be "a fugitive and a vagabond." Yet in just a few verses (4:16-17) Cain will settle down, marry, have a son, and build a city. This is not the activity one would expect from a fugitive and a vagabond. 4:12

God promises Abram and his descendants all of the land of Canaan. But both history and the bible (Acts 7:5 and Heb.11:13) show that God's promise to Abram was not fulfilled. 13:15, 15:18, 17:8, 28:13-14

Answer 7

there is as much evidence to support that jesus rose from the dead as there is evidence that muhammed rose from the golden temple. I don't believe either one. There is no way that you can prove there is a God, just like there is no way that I can prove there isn't. I believe that if I have free will then there cannot be an omnipotent God, and if there is an omnipotent God than i don't have free will and I can't change anything. The Bible has as much meaning to me as a tabloid magazine, just because someone writes it down doesnt make it true. I think that people just accredit everything they don't understand or can't deal with to God because that is what they are taught to do and it is easier.

Answer 8

Shaky at best. I'd say whatever makes more sense to you is the one you should choose. Magical being in the sky? Guy who died and rose again? Or that which one can see (or clearly can never see) right in front of their own eyes? If the choice comes down to that, most people will have to side with the non-magical explanation. Just like Santa. You don't believe in Santa, do you, even though millions of kids get presents each year, millions of "witnesses" see him in the mall, I have plenty of books that talk about Santa, and the predictions that Santa will bring presents to all the good girls and boys each year and not to the bad always comes true? I mean, it completely explains where all those presents come from.

Believing in God is not about where the proof lies. The whole point of faith is to believe when there is no real reason for doing so. So trying to give a "logical" reason for believing makes no sense.

Nice attempt, but not very strong argument. It really doesn't make much sense to me.

Answer 9

can you prove that god exist? without the bible? without using emotions as examples? you cant, anymore than we atheist cant prove that god doesnt exist. its based on BELIEF, theist believe that god exist, atheist believe that god doesnt, but neither groups can prove 100% their argument.
with WW2, its indisputable that it happened. our relatives, ancestors fought in it, there are surivors, there is historical evidence that exists, remains, ruins, effects that are still felt today.
we know that the crusades existed. historical evidence on both sides of the fighters. artifacts, legends, ruins, etc.
the thing about christianity is that what we have today comes from the bible. these events happened how many hundreds of years ago? and then they were passed on orally until they were written down in the bible (which does contain condratictions).
there is a really good quote from the movie Memento :
"Memory can change the shape of a room; it can change the color of a car. And memories can be distorted. They're just an interpretation, they're not a record, and they're irrelevant if you have the facts"
how many times have you been telling a story and youve forgotten something, so you fill it in youself. how many times have you seen other people do it? add a little here and there to make it more shocking or entertaining. and then the listener tells someone else, and adds their personal little things to it. like gossip. it starts out a very unimportant story, but by the time it goes around, its completely blown out of poportion.
now if stories of jesus was passed around orally, like all stories, its based on truth, but its exaggerated enormously.
for example, the legend of king arthur. it is based on a real british ruler. but all they stories are they really true? of course not. there is no hand that holds excalibur in the middle of the lake. magician? dragons? magical equipment? sword in a stone that can only be pulled out by the one who is to be king? of course not. there exaggerated stories.

Answer 10

You have mentioned, about your belief in World War II, Jesus, Gravity based on information that’s out there, therefore you believe it happened. Meaning direct/indirect evidence has to answer your skepticism and there by you believe in it. See my explanation.

The whole universe; infinite in existence, absolute in knowledge/Consciousness (Do not confuse your self with conscience) is in perfect Equilibrium. This state is referred to as God. If reality is placed in human existence, then it would mean an alternate consciousness independent/dependant of absolute consciousness and thereby proves an anomaly in absolute, which is impossible. Thus our existence (life) as separate from the absolute is just an illusion. This is the reason you have asked this question and I am trying to answer your question, our mind makes us feel independent of absolute. Thus there is “No God” separate than oneself.

The other simple way to prove is. Show me God, if you can’t then there is no God. No Evidence thereby no God.