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It has been said by some not all Christians on yahoo answers that the human being requires a creator. It is stated that something can not come from nothing. It is further stated that this was the Judeo-Christian God who created the human being.

In the interest of creating a database of questions and answers I ask the following questions.

Who created the Judeo-Christian God?
The Judeo-Christian God is something, something can not come from nothing.

Also, if you state that it is your belief that God always existed (based on John 1:1-2); would it also make sense that a non-theist could believe that matter and energy always existed and does not require a creator? That the non-theist belief that matter and energy has always existed without a creator is just as valid a belief as the Judeo-Christian belief that God existed without a creator?

Answer 1

Let's say a creator existed, and matter and energy existed. Now how do you get to life.

The honest truth is that if natural biological creation was ever able to be shown as true, real and possible, all good scientists would review it and agree with it, and that would be that.

The fact is that there is no way that genetic code, life, can be self-created. It is the most impossible thing. It is a hypothesis, that if it is tested, can be found to be unrealistic. That is why this issue is so polarized. It is natural creation is politically correct, it is faith based and it is unrealistic and unproven. That is a simple fact of life.

In addition, the belief that we are random quirks of nature, leads to unrealistic philosophies and political philosophies. This is kind of a secondary proof that natural creation is unrealistic.

As far as your question, it ought to be, who created the creator. Though I am a Christian, I am so by faith. There is a lot of baggage that comes with your statement, ie, the genesis account. So keep it simple and inclusive. Creator, not Judeo-Christian God! God is man's definition (could be divine) of a Creator, ie, religion.

First of all, the Creator of all cannot be created. You get stuck in an infinite loop if you think that. You have to assume, yes assume, take on faith, that the Creator always was.

Is this a contradiction? Well we can know that between a Creator, and matter and energy, we can not get to our existence naturally thru matter and energy. Thus a creator must exist. How?

Well is it hard for me to conceive that space is infinite, or time is without beginning. But, it is an immutable fact that they are. Some thing just are. The Judeo name for God was "I AM".

This is a short and glib reply. There is more than this invovled.

Answer 2

I still cannot determine what you real question is here.

Is it "Questions for everyone?"

Or is it, " Who created the Judeo-Christian God?"

Or, "That the non-theist belief that matter and energy has always existed without a creator is just as valid a belief as the Judeo-Christian belief that God existed without a creator?

The last one is a bit confusing, but close. I am trying to work with you here. Please ask what you really want in a concise question form. If you leave out the lengthy explanations, it may not distract readers from the real question. I think that what you want is an answer from an devoted Christian, but the negative tones are turning them away.

Answer 3

The last part of your question sounds like a very valid statement and is in line with what I remember learning in basic science classes in school, that matter and energy always existed. I choose to believe in God of course, and I believe that He crated matter and energy in the first place, but your point is valid and well-stated.

"Also, if you state that it is your belief that God always existed (based on John 1:1-2); would it also make sense that a non-theist could believe that matter and energy always existed and does not require a creator? That the non-theist belief that matter and energy has always existed without a creator is just as valid a belief as the Judeo-Christian belief that God existed without a creator?"

Answer 4

>>>Who created the Judeo-Christian God?
The Judeo-Christian God is something, something can not come from nothing<<<

God can. He can do anything.

>>>Also, if you state that it is your belief that God always existed (based on John 1:1-2); would it also make sense that a non-theist could believe that matter and energy always existed and does not require a creator?<<<

Not really, because God is neither matter nor energy. He is of a unique essence, one that's unfathomable by the human intellect and its limits.

Things with matter and energy require a creator, but God is not so limited.

Answer 5

The best, most widely accepted, and most evidence-based scientific theories state that the universe has a beginning. Therefore, matter and energy have not always existed. You can believe differently if you want, but you'll be wrong.

Just one of the many physics reasons that you are wrong:

If you know anything about physics, you know that entropy is always positive. The universe is always becoming more chaotic. Heat energy is always being released from objects. There is no matter in the universe that re-uses heat energy from other objects except a few living organisms; it is simply lost out into space. It does not form new stars, planets, or matter. Heat, ie, energy waves, therefore, are always slipping outward into space. The universe is dying a slow death. Therefore, it cannot have always existed as it does today.

Before you disagree with me, consider that you will also be disagreeing with Albert Einstein's and Stephen Hawking's views of the universe.

As far as the "creation" of God; God supersedes matter and energy. He is the great "I AM." He simply is, was, and always will be. Since is is not created of matter, his existence is not subject to the observed laws of physics.

Answer 6

This is where your premise falls short: "would it also make sense that a non-theist could believe that matter and energy always existed and does not require a creator?" No, it would not make sense because:

The 'matter and energy' you speak of would have to possess intelligence in order to begin a creational activity, otherwise how could it initiate creation? Then you are back to 'intelligent design,' or God, Whom atheists refuse to acknowledge.

Creation simply makes more sense when you are speaking of something beginning from nothing, which even Christians agree is impossible.

Whatever you call Him, God is the First Cause.

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Answer 7

Like I have said before in YA, God, The All Mighty, The Creator, whatever you choose to call IT was not HUMAN. Not a he or a him.
Science is more valid than religion. Why do you think we send probes out to space with mathematics on board rather than a preacher? Cause 2 and 2 will always be 4. That's why. Science has proof for the theory's and religion has man made theory's.
Jim, this question should be the question of the day.
Excellent.

Answer 8

yes, but does your matter and energy love? How do you get to know your matter and energy. Jesus Christ is evident in my life. I see His mercies daily. At least you agree tht there is something that always is, was and will be. I guess tht's a step in the right direction. At least you see tht there is eternity. God reveals all of these things in His word.
Furthermore, you're not the only person tht has ever pondered such questions. All humans search for their creator. If you earnestly seek Him, you will find Him.

Answer 9

Oh is this going to be databased?

The fact is some people want to worship primordial soup or seemingly lifeless energy. If you don't feel comfortable with God loving you, a healthy fantasy about life springing from what is dead is really the only option.

Answer 10

I'll take a bowl of primordial soup to go please.

But seriously now, it does seem a bit hypocritical to say one is wrong when their belief is based on the same circumstances as the non-theist belief. Of both you can ask "Can't they have always existed?" And from one side you have a "No, that's rediculous" and the other "Yes, of course it's true."