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The Nazis claimed to have god on their side too. Was the holocaust payback for killing the christ?

2006-08-08 05:59:17 · 11 answers · asked by theagitator@sbcglobal.net 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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The question is a loaded question. If I answer, yes, then you could say that God authored the evil, and if I answer no, then you could say that God is not capable of helping people. This same debate had been going on for years and is known as the problem of evil.

The argumentation goes as follows:

1. God exists (premise)
2. God is omnipotent (premise)
3. God is benevolent (premise)
4. Benevolent beings are opposed to all evil. (premise)
5. Benevolent beings will act immediately with no delay. (premise)
6. God is opposed to all evil. (conclusion from 3 and 4)
7. God can eliminate evil completely and immediately. (conclusion from 2)
1. Whatever end result of suffering, God can bring about by ways which do not include suffering. (conclusion from 2)
2. God has no reason not to eliminate evil (conclusion from 7.1)
3. God has no reason not to act immediately (Conclusion from 5)
8. God will eliminate evil completely and immediately. (conclusion from 6, 7.2 and 7.3)
9. Evil exists, has existed, and probably will always exist. (premise)
10. Items 8 and 9 are contradictory; therefore, one or more of the premises is false: either God does not exist, or he is not both omnipotent and benevolent or there is a reason why He does not act immediately.

In such situations, traditional logic fails, because anytime infinity (in the form of God or otherwise) is involved, it creates a paradox. The same is true for a viable explanation of the Trinity, the full deity and humanity of Christ, the origin of God, the problem of evil, and the struggle between election and free will.

I don't know that we can definitely answer the question, but rather describe the situation. The only thing about God that we can know for certain are those which he reveal to us, and I don't think he has answered this question. Job asked God to explain it, and God answered him by basically showing Job that he was sovereign over all creation, and that nothing was out of his control. Job then confesses that he spoke about things he could not understand and realizes his place before God.

2006-08-08 06:15:08 · answer #1 · answered by The1andOnlyMule 2 · 0 0

People, humans, humans... Either there may be one of these factor as God's plan, or there is not. You cannot have it each methods. Christian author Rick Warren writes: "God certainly not does some thing by chance, and he certainly not makes errors. He has a purpose for the whole thing he creates. Every plant and each animal was once deliberate through God, and each man or woman was once designed with a motive in brain. " In different phrases: God as micro-supervisor of EVERYTHING. Therefore, if you purchase the idea that God is in my opinion worried to your lifestyles and the lifetime of every body (and the whole thing) else on this planet, and that each one births and all deaths are ordained through him, then it MUST comply with that Hitler and the Holocaust are side of that "divine plan". Hitler was once designed through God with a motive in brain -- I bet we noticed what that motive was once, eh? It MUST were God's plan to have the ones 6 million Jews murdered, and numerous different hundreds of thousands killed in the course of WW2. But significantly, permit's reduce to the chase. Buddha mentioned: If God enables evil to exist, then he can not be well. If he can not do some thing approximately evil, then he can not be God. It can not be plainer than that. Seriously.

2016-08-28 10:51:22 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

god was looking down on them, and he promise that the suffereing that u endure here on earh u will never see or hear of it in heave. heaven is our reward, life is our test the trails we face are to make us stronger our tribulations is yet to come. god has no pay back he only reward the good and jsut. when u work hard at ur job ur boss takes notice and when the time is right he rewards u by a promotion or a raise. god has love in his heart but his wrath is mighty anf strong and we shall only see that when he comes back to eart. nazis and the entire holocaust deal will be judge on judgement day and not before. rember we are paying for ADAM & EVE SINS.

2006-08-08 06:17:44 · answer #3 · answered by 1plum 4 · 0 0

no the holocaust was not pay back!!!everybody is responsible for Christ's death!God was weeping. because he could not force men to stop this atrocity. Sometimes free will has terrible consequences, but despite this, God would never deprive us from our free will. It's our duty to use our free will for the good.Men forgot God. Or betrayed him when they made him responsible for the atrocities they did. the nazis were just to happy to have a "good" excuse to slay people.But satan was on their side. Not God.

2006-08-08 06:08:27 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Romans killed Yeshua.

As for where was G_d, he was writing down all the names of the evil Nazi's in his black book. Most are dead now, Israel helped catch alot of the Nazis after WWII so they could stand trial. I can see them burning in a firey pit forever. As for the Jews, the apple of G_ds eye, I think he is making it up to them in heaven.

2006-08-08 06:08:28 · answer #5 · answered by Brett Feldman 1 · 0 0

God bless all my Jewish brothers and sisters.It is not a payback for killing JC, remember Mathew 27: 24When Pilate saw that he was getting nowhere, but that instead an uproar was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd. "I am innocent of this man's blood," he said. "It is your responsibility!"

and in verse25 All the people answered, "Let his blood be on us and on our children!" is because this people didn't know Jesus they came from everywhere but Jerusalem. The priests took this opportunity to kill Jesus.

2006-08-08 06:16:30 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Hitler claimed to be Catholic and killed the Jews because he thought it was the Jews that killed Jesus,but Hitler was a mad man and there are people that are crazy and do really bad thing

2006-08-08 06:11:30 · answer #7 · answered by purpleaura1 6 · 0 0

I imagine that we were punished for sinning, like when we went to egypt. It was probably because alot of jews were abandoning the faith and disregarding the laws of the OT.
however, its also possible that the nazis punished us MUCH MORE than we deserved -- like the egyptians.

but, realistically, its difficult to know for certain G-d's calculations.

2006-08-08 06:05:29 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

An old Jewish saying.
"God was crying at the sight of what man does to himself"

2006-08-08 06:05:14 · answer #9 · answered by williamzo 5 · 0 0

wars are going to STOP!
Aphrodite!

2006-08-08 06:07:52 · answer #10 · answered by i_am_zeus_wife 1 · 0 0

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