Multiples of 12 are also sometimes significant. David established 24 divisions of the priesthood to serve by turn in the temple later built by Solomon. (1Ch 24:1-18) This assists in identifying the “twenty-four elders” who were seated round about God’s throne in white outer garments and who were wearing crowns. (Re 4:4) The footstep followers of Jesus Christ, his spiritual brothers, are promised kingship and priesthood with him in the heavens. These elders could not be only the apostles, who numbered just 12. They therefore evidently represent the entire body of the “royal priesthood,” the 144,000 (as represented in the 24 priestly divisions serving at the temple) in their positions in the heavens, as crowned kings and priests.—1Pe 2:9; Re 7:4-8; 20:6.
2006-08-07 15:41:05
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answer #1
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answered by BJ 7
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Many Bible scholars believe that the 24 Elders around Jesus' throne are the heads of the 12 Tribes of Israel, and the 12 Apostles.
2006-08-07 15:32:43
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answer #2
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answered by Bob L 7
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They are the new and full moons of a year. Revelation is a mystical association of events around 70 CE with what was happening in the sky at the time, using the Logos concept against the book of Daniel. It's a work of art from that perspective.
2006-08-07 15:34:17
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answer #3
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answered by lenny 7
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the recent testomony replaced into no longer written in English. So, I regarded up the Greek word used here as elder, and it replaced into "presbuterion" which has a which ability of senior and ambassador. So those of long-time faith are unique as participants of the presbytery or elder board. In Heaven, it extremely is presumed to be inhabited by utilising spirits that are ageless and eternal. the recent testomony additionally teaches that once God took the punishment for mankind interior the physique of Jesus, that replaced into the tip of punishment for all who believed in Him. for this reason, if it extremely is authentic, there isn't any punishment in heaven. So, you may could end the elders are no longer around the throne as a results of fact they are compelled to be, yet as a results of fact they desire to be.
2016-12-11 09:20:12
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answer #4
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answered by Anonymous
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If you will notice in Rev 4:4, the elders are wearing crowns. Crowns represent authority. A king would wear a crown. Now in 4:10, these 24 elders cast their crowns before the throne of God. That denotes that their authority comes from God. Also, in 5:8 these elders fall down before the throne of Christ. This is saying that even though they had some authority, it was less that that of Christ and that they are subject to Christ. So, we are dealing with an entity that has authority, but their authority is subject to that of Christ.
I believe the only authority that fits that description today in the church is that of the 12 apostles. The 12 apostles taught the will of God to the people. We know the apostles had authority because Matt. 16:19 says, "whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven." The apostles had the authority on this earth to reveal the gospel of Christ to mankind, yet their authority was subject to the authority of Christ.
Also, in the Old Testament the nation of Israel was born from the 12 Patriarchs. They fathered the physical nation of Israel. So, from the 12 sons of Israel were born the nation of Israel and from the teachings of the 12 apostles the church was born. So, both laws God has given to man was given through 12 people.... The Law of Moses was given to the children of the 12 patriarchs and the gospel of Christ was given to the church through the 12 apostles. For one to be a member of the nation of Israel, he had to be physically "born" into that nation. They were the physical descendants of the 12 patriarchs. For one to become a member of the church they have to be "born" spiritually into Christ by following the teaching of the 12 apostles.
12 Partiarchs plus 12 Apostles = 24
So, I believe that the 24 elders represent the authority that God gave unto men to bring into existance the nations of his people that were subject to God's laws. Israel was a "physical" nation subject to the Law of Moses and the church is a "spiritual" nation subject to the law of Christ given through the 12 apostles. Therefore, there are 24 elders.
2006-08-07 15:52:15
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answer #5
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answered by purpleaura1 6
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the 24 elders are the prophets who recieved crowns for their righteousness. Moses, Noah, Elijah, Jacob, Aaron, David, Solomon, Muhammad, and others who served God with love and faith.
2006-08-07 15:29:50
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answer #6
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answered by Anonymous
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And upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting - Very various opinions have been entertained in respect to those who thus appeared sitting around the throne, and to the question why the number twenty-four is mentioned. Instead of examining those opinions at length, it will be better to present, in a summary manner, what seems to be probable in regard to the intended reference. The following points, then, would appear to embrace all that can be known on this subject:
(1)These elders have a regal character, or are of a kingly order. This is apparent:
(a) because they are represented as sitting on “thrones,” and
(b) because they have on their heads “crowns of gold.”
(2)they are emblematic. They are designed to symbolize or represent some class of persons. This is clear:
(a) because it cannot be supposed that so small a number would compose the whole of those who are in fact around the throne of God, and,
(b) because there are other symbols there designed to represent something pertaining to the homage rendered to God, as the four living creatures and the angels, and this supposition is necessary in order to complete the symmetry and harmony of the representation.
(3)they are human beings, and are designed to have some relation to the race of man, and somehow to connect the human race with the worship of heaven. The four living creatures have another design; the angels Rev_5:1-14 have another; but these are manifestly of our race - persons from this world before the throne.
(4)they are designed in some way to be symbolic of the church as redeemed. Thus, they say Rev_5:9, “Thou hast redeemed us to God by thy blood.”
(5)they are designed to represent the whole church in every land and every age of the world. Thus, they say Rev_5:9, “Thou hast redeemed us to God by thy blood, out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation.” This shows, further, that the whole representation is emblematic; for otherwise in so small a number - twenty-four - there could not be a representation out of every nation.
(6)they represent the church triumphant - the church victorious. Thus, they have crowns on their heads; they have harps in their hands Rev_5:8; they say that they are “kings and priests,” and that they will “reign on the earth,” Rev_5:10.
(7)the design, therefore, is to represent the church triumphant - redeemed - saved - as rendering praise and honor to God; as uniting with the hosts of heaven in adoring him for his perfections and for the wonders of his grace; As representatives of the church, they are admitted near to him; they encircle his throne; they appear victorious over every foe; and they come, in unison with the living creatures, and the angels, and the whole universe Rev_5:13, to ascribe power and dominion to God.
(8)as to the reason why the number “twenty-four” is mentioned, perhaps nothing certain can be determined. Ezekiel, in his vision Eze_8:16; Eze_11:1, saw twenty-five men between the porch and the altar, with their backs toward the temple, and their faces toward the earth - supposed to be representations of the twenty-four “courses” into which the body of priests was divided 1 Chr. 24:3-19, with the high priest among them, making up the number twenty-five. It is possible that John in this vision may have designed to refer to the church considered as a priesthood (compare the notes on 1Pe_2:9), and to have alluded to the fact that the priesthood under the Jewish economy was divided into twenty-four courses, each with a presiding officer, and who was a representative of that portion of the priesthood over which he presided. If so, then the ideas which enter into the representation are these:
(a) That the whole church may be represented as a priesthood, or a community of priests - an idea which frequently occurs in the New Testament.
(b) That the church, as such a community of priests, is employed in the praise and worship of God - an idea, also, which finds abundant countenance in the New Testament.
(c) That, in a series of visions having a designed reference to the church, it was natural to introduce some symbol or emblem representing the church, and representing the fact that this is its office and employment. And,
(d) that this would be well expressed by an allusion derived from the ancient dispensation - the division of the priesthood into classes, over each one of which there presided an individual who might be considered as the representative of his class.
It is to be observed, indeed, that in one respect they are represented as” kings,” but still this does not forbid the supposition that there might have been intermingled also another idea, that they were also “priests.” Thus, the two ideas are blended by these same elders in Rev_5:10; “And hath made us unto our God kings and priests.” Thus understood, the vision is designed to denote the fact that the representatives of the church, ultimately to be triumphant, are properly engaged in ascribing praise to God. The word “elders” here seems to be used in the sense of aged and venerable men, rather than as denoting office. They were such as by their age were qualified to preside over the different divisions of the priesthood.
To a previous answerer, Mohamed has no place in Heaven, He rejected Christ as Savior, he is no where near the throne.
2006-08-07 15:33:07
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answer #7
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answered by BrotherMichael 6
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They are the same Ancients ... the Elect ... mentioned in the Koran.
They are the real "Powers that Be".
And if they're not pissed about the delays and mismanagement down here ... I am ... and they're fakes!
2006-08-07 15:31:15
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answer #8
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answered by postquantum 2
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