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When I started Y!A, I was undecided if there is a god or not. After reading and responding to countless Qs and As, I found that 1) the term for me is Agnostic, and 2) I am learning more and more that there in fact may not be a god.

If you believe there is a god, how can you be sure? In ancient times there were many gods. The American Indians had many gods. What convinced them there was only one god?

I'd like to think there is a god, but when I did believe wholeheartedly, my life was filled with one majorly bad experience after another. When I started to question that belief, my life seemed to improve a little.

2006-08-07 14:37:23 · 15 answers · asked by Newt 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

For almost forty years, I worshiped god. I studied and taught religion to young and old. I gave my life to him, but when I needed him most, he let me down. I saw two sets of footprints on the sand, then one - they were mine. I was alone.

Since that time I have learned to live. I have made my own decisions. I built my own ladder to climb out of that hole I was in. Things could be better and I'm working on it - me alone!

It's not an itch, 'cause once you feel one, you KNOW what it is as it was proven to you.

Is there a god? I still don't know. But I do know that since I shed my godly ways, I do believe I am a better person.

I'll leave the best answer up to you guys.

2006-08-08 13:45:28 · update #1

15 answers

think about this.
life as we know it, everything that exsisted and is exsisting, canot come from nothing.
science agrees it would take somethign far more than the normal laws of science for matter to come out of nothign. The big bang theory is full of unlimited gaps as to how it even started.
neverm ind how it worked. Evolutionists argue that the universe as we know it was spontianuously done. not made, but just... appeared from some bizzare random explosion out of nothing.
that being said, they say that the form it is currently is is also randomly done. that the fact earth sustains life only by being in its exact spot, (no more than a couple hundred feet closer to the sun or farther) was pure chance. that the sun, by pure chance became the perfect sun to keep life on earth.
Infact, they state that the whole universe, which has been 'spontaniously exploded' into exsistance, finds a way to recycle and remake itself indeffinetly is 'Chance'.
Dark holes, super novas, stars, plantes, all act in a way to remake and distroy the universe, like the planet itself does. could a explosion make somethign so well?
the earth, as beign created in the genises account, is agreed by scientists as to thats the order the earth would have been formed to life. however, for this to be done in the exactly right order, the first time, spontainiously, is unimaginably rare. for example, say you have 10 blocks (the number of steps in the genises account for creation) and you take them out, and blindfolded, have to place them in order.
the chances, (doing th math) is roughly 1 in 3,628,800.
this is only one example of the vast improbeblities that haunt the evolution theory. the theory of evolution is nothing more than 'coincidence after coincidence. mistake after mistkae. accedent after eccedent, Luck after Luck, and chance after chance.' but all i've talked about is the universe and earth itself. lets talk about evolution shall we?

Evolution itself.
evolution is done from 'Mutations and accedents' so science says. these mutations, are very rare, yet happen. that much is agreed, however. mutations are rarely ever good, infact How do mutations originate? It is thought that most of them occur in the normal process of cell reproduction. But experiments have shown that they also can be caused by external agents such as radiation and chemicals. And how often do they happen? The reproduction of genetic material in the cell is remarkably consistent. Relatively speaking, considering the number of cells that divide in a living thing, mutations do not occur very often. As the Encyclopedia Americana commented, the reproducing “of the DNA chains composing a gene is remarkably accurate. Misprints or miscopying are infrequent accidents.

'Excluding any “neutral” mutations, then, harmful ones outnumber those that are supposedly beneficial by thousands to one. “Such results are to be expected of accidental changes occurring in any complicated organization,” states the Encyclopædia Britannica.10 That is why mutations are said to be responsible for hundreds of diseases that are genetically determined.'

'Because of the harmful nature of mutations, the Encyclopedia Americana acknowledged: “The fact that most mutations are damaging to the organism seems hard to reconcile with the view that mutation is the source of raw materials for evolution. Indeed, mutants illustrated in biology textbooks are a collection of freaks and monstrosities and mutation seems to be a destructive rather than a constructive process.”12 When mutated insects were placed in competition with normal ones, the result was always the same. As G. Ledyard Stebbins observed: “After a greater or lesser number of generations the mutants are eliminated.”13 They could not compete because they were not improved but were degenerate and at a disadvantage.'

'Geneticist Dobzhansky once said: “An accident, a random change, in any delicate mechanism can hardly be expected to improve it. Poking a stick into the machinery of one’s watch or one’s radio set will seldom make it work better.”15 Thus, ask yourself: Does it seem reasonable that all the amazingly complex cells, organs, limbs and processes that exist in living things were built up by a procedure that tears down?'

Heres the biggest thing.

'Even if all mutations were beneficial, could they produce anything new? No, they could not. A mutation could only result in a variation of a trait that is already there. It provides variety, but never anything new.
The World Book Encyclopedia gives an example of what might happen with a beneficial mutation: “A plant in a dry area might have a mutant gene that causes it to grow larger and stronger roots. The plant would have a better chance of survival than others of its species because its roots could absorb more water.”But has anything new appeared? No, it is still the same plant. It is not evolving into something else.
Mutations may change the color or texture of a person’s hair. But the hair will always be hair. It will never turn into feathers. A person’s hand may be changed by mutations. It may have fingers that are abnormal. At times there may even be a hand with six fingers or with some other malformation. But it is always a hand. It never changes into something else. Nothing new is coming into existence, nor can it ever.'

even rare benificial mutations don't change the creature, or make it anything new. they just... mutate it.

'The hereditary code, the DNA, has a remarkable ability to repair genetic damage to itself. This helps to preserve the kind of organism it is coded for. Scientific American relates how “the life of every organism and its continuity from generation to generation” are preserved “by enzymes that continually repair” genetic damage. The journal states: “In particular, significant damage to DNA molecules can induce an emergency response in which increased quantities of the repair enzymes are synthesized.”
Thus, in the book Darwin Retried the author relates the following about the respected geneticist, the late Richard Goldschmidt: “After observing mutations in fruit flies for many years, Goldschmidt fell into despair. The changes, he lamented, were so hopelessly micro [small] that if a thousand mutations were combined in one specimen, there would still be no new species.”'

if humans with complex labs and scientific knowledge couldnt make eveolution or life happen, how could a big random explosion do it?

'No amount of accidental genetic change can cause one kind of life to turn into another kind. As French biologist Jean Rostand once said: “No, decidedly, I cannot make myself think that these ‘slips’ of heredity have been able, even with the cooperation of natural selection, even with the advantage of the immense periods of time in which evolution works on life, to build the entire world, with its structural prodigality and refinements, its astounding ‘adaptations.’”
Similarly, geneticist C. H. Waddington stated regarding the belief in mutations: “This is really the theory that if you start with any fourteen lines of coherent English and change it one letter at a time, keeping only those things that still make sense, you will eventually finish up with one of the sonnets of Shakespeare. . . . it strikes me as a lunatic sort of logic, and I think we should be able to do better.”
The truth is as Professor John Moore declared: “Upon rigorous examination and analysis, any dogmatic assertion . . . that gene mutations are the raw material for any evolutionary process involving natural selection is an utterance of a myth'

so it's an imposiblity really to beleive life got here by such things as a big bang theory and evolution.
they are both theories that cannot be explained, in most ways they seem more impossible to comprehend than a god.
i only gave very FEW examples as to why these are horribly mistakening theorys. i'd do alot more, like how fossil records actually proove AGAINST evolution, and about 'APE' men if you want. just I.M me. but im not about to bore everyone on Y!A.

=)

2006-08-07 14:41:09 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

How?? How can I convince you that there is a God, a creator. I can't, for what I see as proof someone else can see nothing there. It is Faith, the evidence of things unseen.

It would be a kin to explaining an itch to someone how has never felt an itch. How could you do it? Think hard about this for a minute, when you tell someone you have an itch, they know exactly what you mean. Oh and how good it feels to scratch it. But for a moment just imagine there is someone that hears you talking about an itch and asks you what an itch is, and why it feels so good to scratch it? What would you say? How you you describe it? I mean there are so many different types if an itch that there is no one real way to describe it or how it feels.

Faith is kind of like that. I can see in nature evidence of design. However that doesn't mean that you will see it the same way. See for me to believe that there is no God would mean that everything is just one grand mistake, no rime, no reason, by chance things just happen to come together in just the right way for life to happen. That for me takes a greater faith.
For me it means that there is no purpose, no meaning in life, we just are and then we die. What's the point???

But if God created by design then there is purpose, there is meaning, there is design to our existence. That there is more to this thing we call life. I believe this is the case. I believe that we are created with purpose and given choices. We make our choices in life good and bad. These choices come at a cost that one day we will have to pay, or have paid.

I profess a faith in Jesus Christ, and in so doing I have to learn what he taught. How he lived. What he did. Then I take that and model my life after. (not very good at it but still I try) Putting others before myself, become selfless instead of selfish. (very hard to do) Having compassion for others. (concerned passion, concerned love) Those are the goals.

Sounds great right??? Man do I have a hard time with it, still I have to continue to try. It is what my faith is about. But how can you point those things out and say, look there is the proof. Would you believe it? I don't know, but for me that is what it is about.

Can I convince you? I don't know.

2006-08-07 22:15:39 · answer #2 · answered by Dead Man Walking 4 · 0 0

Hindu's describe the creation of the universe pretty much the way scientists explain the big bang theory. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that cakes don't bake themselves and universes don't just magically happen there has to be a creator.

Here is something to think about up until recently medical science was not able to bring a person back from the dead. People who have near death experiences describe a feeling of euphoria due to the fact that the brain is shooting huge doses of serotonin into the blood stream. WHY what purpose does this serve Your dying. It wont heal you or bring you back from this state of death. what purpose would nature have to do this? it does not involve passing on genes, and people who die don't pass on the gene to do it. WHY? Because your going on a trip.

2006-08-07 21:58:41 · answer #3 · answered by Rich 5 · 0 0

I can prove (rather trivially) the universe was not created, will that do?

The proof is easy once you realize two things:
1) creation implies something didn't always exist, which implies the passage of time
2) time is not seperate from the universe as proven by relativity

From these, it follows that for the universe to have been created, there must have been a time when time did not exist. Clearly this is a contradiction, so the concept of a created universe is disproven.

If the universe was not created, then there is no role for a creator.

2006-08-07 21:45:55 · answer #4 · answered by lenny 7 · 0 0

For one if you really wish to believe you will seek the truth in the canonical books of the bible and not in the Agnostic gospels. Two from the macro to the micro shows an unbelievable organization that only God can do.

2006-08-07 22:32:28 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Psalms14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. Try going to a good bible believing church and listen to the music and the sermon and see if you fell an urging to get saved. I would recommend a pentecostal church, its easier to feel Gods presence in a service with other believers sometimes. Its not a matter of reading and believing or not, you need to sense Gods presence.

2006-08-07 21:50:26 · answer #6 · answered by ? 7 · 0 0

You can either believe or not. Its a personal choice, and my choice is to believe. Look at the Amish people, they live with out may material things. They believe. For me the reason I believe is because it is what I was taught and have not found out any difference. So I continue to believe. But hey if I die and find out it was a lie, who am I harming? Not you or anyone else. So look at it from my point of view. Its all good. Peace.

2006-08-07 21:52:43 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I am a very smart man. I can remember lots of things for 65 yrs.
I've survived lots of accidents. I can do math any question in my head, instantly.
I got my start with mom and dad doing the thing in a wagon. maybe it is just how you shake the sperm.. But I doubt it.. It would take a god to make a me..

2006-08-07 21:56:59 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

every ear of corn has silk. there is one strand of silk for each kernel of corn. the silk reaches out to capture nourishment and sun for the ear. if there is no Supreme Mind guiding the universe...how would such things happen??? the universe created without a Supreme Being would be like a watch being created by shaking all the pieces of it in a box.

2006-08-07 21:44:12 · answer #9 · answered by heythere 1 · 0 0

Buy the VHS "LIFE AFTER LIFE "by Dr.Raymond Moody and open your mind up to listen to someone Else's experiences after they were declared dead ..No one can convince you of anything,its up to you to find God.

2006-08-07 21:51:06 · answer #10 · answered by mustang 3 · 0 0

I don't really understand the term "supernatural". Would that mean God can brake his own laws?

2006-08-07 21:42:50 · answer #11 · answered by Cyber 6 · 0 0

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