books exists so does Hobbits, Elves, dragons, and wizards?Afterall, they are all based on the writings of books that came from the imagination of men.And so, if the imagination of men can dream up a God and dream up Hobbits, Elves, dragons, and wizards can't they all exist.They are, afterall, equally prove-able.
2006-08-07 12:50:28 · 14 answers · asked by EasterBunny 5 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Exactly. When Christians use the Bible to prove the accuracy of the Bible, it is the same as using Harry Potter to prove the accuracy of Harry Potter: nothing is proven.
Bayesian logic can be used to prove that the existence of humans is irrelavent in proving the existence of God.
2006-08-07 12:55:59 · answer #1 · answered by curlyr3d 1 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Here's the logic - if people did not exist then God would not be a God at all, just some lonely entity with nothing to be Lord over. If some force, whether it was gas or energy or something that had it's own awareness created mankind, then yes we would have to blame that thing for our existence - doesn't matter what name you give it. Just as we have to admit we are the creation of our parents, even if we don't know who our parents are. Also, dragons, hobbits etc., even if they only exist in our minds, books and movies, still exist in the pages of those books. Our minds imagine, our hands create. Once again I will say this, until our technology has developed machines and technology that can test and measure that which is beyond the limits of our human perception, we can neither successfully prove anything for or against on the materialistic plane, that which is not on the materialistic plane.
2006-08-07 20:12:41 · answer #2 · answered by arvecar 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The problem is how do you account for our rationality and logic, that certainly didn't arise out of chance. The Hobbit is a creation of a rational being, not something that just appeared, it had to be designed. Complexity in design always points a designer, in this J. R. R. Toikken. You also forgot a very important difference, God is timeless, He has always existed. The Hobbit is a creation of a contingent being who is a product of God's creation, thus The Hobbit hasn't existed continually from time past. It had a definite beginning. To try to attempt to show proof requires an acceptance of what is the nature of proof. Certainly in this case flights of fancy based on the imagination of one man would not be considered as adequate proof.
2006-08-07 20:02:10 · answer #3 · answered by tigranvp2001 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No, that's not quite parallel logic. Now if you said, I exist because the bible says God exists, then you could go on with what you wrote. But proving or disproving God will never happen because God isn't a being like a Hobbit or an Elf.
2006-08-07 19:57:46 · answer #4 · answered by acholtz@verizon.net 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
If God were solely a literary figure, then, yeah, he wouldn't be any more or less real than Middle Earth characters. But deities exist in and out of literature and have existed for pretty much the whole time humans have existed. So the idea of God is much more prevalent and has been well-established for a while. Therefore, there's a lot more, um, proof of the existence of God. If you want to see it that way
And how do you know Middle Earth *doesn't* exist?
2006-08-07 19:56:17 · answer #5 · answered by SlowClap 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
So who says Hobbits, Elves and dragons don't exists?
I personally think that France is completely imaginary. I've never been there, and I can only take it on faith that it's there. So I don't think France exists. I am an Afranciest.
2006-08-07 19:58:07 · answer #6 · answered by Hatir Ba Loon 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
This is very poor logic, look in the mirror who made you ....elves maybe the hobbits .....
With is line of thought I could say ...if I think England does not exits then it doesn't ....right ....wrong .
Using human logic to find spiritual answers never works ..
Two different worlds
2006-08-07 19:55:14 · answer #7 · answered by Vivian X 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The Lord of the Rings books exist because some one existed who wrote them, J.R.R.Tolkein.
The LoR books are the created, the author is the creator.
Thus, you are the creature(the created) and God is the Creator.
The LoR books didn't have to exist yet because they do it's because the author chose to write them.
God didn't have to create you (or me) either, yet He did. Not because of choice alone, but because of love.
So at least acknowledge that.
2006-08-07 20:11:58 · answer #8 · answered by Tiberias 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Logic is a wonderful tool, if it is used in the proper way for the proper job. you would not use a hammer to remove a pipe from below your sink. You would use a wrench. Using logic, it becomes obvious that TV antennas cause cancer. If you begin with a faulty theorm, logic is absolutely useless
2006-08-07 19:59:30 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
How says people like that didn't exist?
2006-08-07 19:55:25 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋