David the corrupt?

Question

Wow...I thought he was a messenger of God?

Although the recipient of numerous accolades--never doing evil (1 Sam. 25:28), following God fully (1 Kings 11:6), being an angel of God(2 Sam. 19:27), keeping his commandments of God (1 Kings 3:14), and having a perfect heart with the Lord (1 Kings 15:3)--David exhibited exceptionally corrupt behavior.

* He killed (1 Sam. 17:50-51 RSV, 18:7, 27, 19:8, 23:5, 30:17, 2 Sam. 8:1, 2, 5, 13),
* ordered murders (2 Sam. 1:15, 4:5-12),
* ordered prisoners to be killed (2 Sam. 12:2931, 1 Chron. 20:3, 2 Sam. 8:1-2),
* committed unprovoked aggression and mass killing (1 Sam. 27:8-11, 2 Sam. 5:20, 25),
* gave up seven of Saul's descendants to be killed (2 Sam. 21:1-6, 9),
* requested that Joab be killed (1 Kings 2:5-6),
* intentionally arranged for Uriah to be killed in order to seize his wife (2 Sam. 11:14-17),
* displeased the Lord (2 Sam. 11:26-27),

# impregnated another man's wife, committing adultery in the process (2 Sam. 11:2-5),
# wasn't allowed to build God's house because he was a man of war and bloodshed (1 Chron. 22:7-8),
# lied (1 Sam. 21:1-2, 27:8-10),
# told Jonathan to lie (1 Sam. 20:5-6),
# admitted he sinned by taking a census (2 Sam. 24:10, 17, 1 Chron. 21: 8, 17)
# committed extortion (1 Sam. 25:2-8),
# prophesied incorrectly in his heart (1 Sam. 27:1),
# sent out a spy (2 Sam. 16:36),
# hamstrung horses (2 Sam. 8:4),
# locked up 10 concubines for life for no apparent reason (2 Sam. 20:3),
# committed bigamy (2 Sam. 3:2-3),
# committed polygamy (2 Sam. 5:12),
# despised the word of the Lord (2 Sam. 12: 9-11),
# admitted he sinned by causing Uriah's death and taking his wife (2 Sam. 12:13-14),
# and exposed himself like a pervert (2 Sam. 6:20).

Maybe this is a different David then the one you all love so much? Or is it out of context again?

Answer 1

He was. Do the math and tell me what kind of God has that guy for a messager!

Answer 2

>>>committed unprovoked aggression and mass killing (1 Sam. 27:8-11)<<<

It was not unprovoked. The Geshurites, Girzites, and Amalekites were vicious enemies of Israel who were bent on putting Israel out of existence.

1 Sam. 27 speaks of David killing all these people, including women and children -- but the Israelites were hardly the only people in the world who did this back then.

At that time, it was commonplace for a conquering army to wipe out the entire population of its conquered foe.

Actually, the Israelites didn't even do this all that often -- a majority of the time when they conquered someone, they let them live.

Only when they deemed it a matter of survival did they do what David did to the three above-mentioned peoples.

Answer 3

Something you seem not to be understanding about God is the fact that God uses the ones He knows will get His work accomplished. These men you are referring to in your questions, David and Moses, you're right, they did horrible things but were forgiven by God and used by God to accomplish His will. David and Moses were strong in their own skills and talents, these were truly men who God knew He could count on. What you fail to realize is that there is a stronger message here than the fact that these men committed murders and so much more. The message is that even those these men did commit these horrible things, they were forgiven and became 2 of the most beloved men of God. You, too, can be forgiven and become a "warrior" for God, if you so desire. It might surprise you to realize that God can choose anyone, He knows who can get the job done for Him. It isn't always in our hands whether God uses us or not. God can use anyone, even an unbeliever to accomplish a "mission" or His will. Just open your mind a little, you might actually realize this.

Answer 4

not at all .this David is the same as you and me like all humans ,,,, faulty.
But one thing this David understood as far as we know by the Bible accounts , He knew to tell God when He was wrong or addmit the error to others.
One of the great things God shows us through Davids life is the Grace that God is capable of showing and this grace David understood personly becouse of his sins. 1 chron 21:8 here David confesses his sin - 2 Sam12:15-24 this shows the Grace of God in his life and the understanding that David had that God could and would forgive sinners such as himself . rdde34me

Answer 5

David was a king - so he made a lot of decisions you and I never have to face. But that wouldn't make a wrong decision right - as I'm sure you know. David also wasn't a perfect man - he was a "man after God's own heart" but not perfect. And the Bible is clear that David made mistakes and had to repent of them. It is easy for us to list out someone else's sins and judge them like you have done but what is important is for us to look at our own sins and be accountable for them. We must not always be pointing our fingers at others and what they have done right or wrong - we must be more concerned with ourselves and our own actions.

Answer 6

David was a fully sinful human who was capable of any sin and did most of them but this is what is wonderful about G-d. G-d forgives us when we truly repent.
" Psalm 51 is one of my favorite Psalms. It is "a prayer of Repentance" and is about God's mercy. It is also a prophesy about salvation through baptism, and a teaching about worship in the spirit and truth. The Psalm does not express sorrowful feelings towards any other person, but it is a realization and a measure of David's sinfulness or inadequacy in the presence of God. The Psalm depicts David's true repentance and contrition, and his turning to God to ask for His mercy and forgiveness."

David did not "get off Scott free" though, he had a child die because of his sin and many of his children turned against him. One even tried to kill him.

But he is a perfect picture of the simplicity of G-d. A beautiful picture. Surely if G-d forgave him, he will forgive us, too.

Answer 7

He also repented, and that makes all the difference in the world. He never denied God's authority and hated Him, as so many other kings of Israel did. That's what makes him a man after God's heart. . . not the fact that he sinned and did some wicked things, as all men do.

Answer 8

We could continually pick apart every concept of the Bible and science or anything else and solve little. We could go through the eons of history and decide in ourselves what should or should not have happened. This will not alter the facts. It will not change them. All we can do is look ahead and not behind unless we plan on making the same mistakes. Then we need to look behind.

Answer 9

Thats a perfect example of God loving us despite our sins and is the God of 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th,5th and so on chances ; as many chances as we need to eventually get it right. God will forgive anybody of the most vile sin as long as the person truly repents in his/her heart.
It does not mean you won't face the consequences of your actions (David faced the consquences of his actions in various ways), but it means at least one person in this world will truly forgive you.

Answer 10

God said David was a man after His own heart.
David was a f*** up for sure... but, He loved God and God recognized that. God looks at our hearts.