Which came first....Once again...!?

Question

I wanna know which came first the Quran or the Bible.....It seems to me that one has to be the Copy of the Other.....as in the names of prophets......Ceratin people seem to have this misconception about Islam.......even Before the Testaments showed up...we had what were called the Injeel and the Tawrath......Im quite sure that they came first......What i dont know for sure is which of the final books...(Bible , Quran) came first......and also.....Muhammed(PBUH) was illeterate.....and never left what is now Saudi Arabia.....Which during his time was predominated by the jews...hence he could have not derived it from the culture around him.....but still i have a big doubts...please give me time lines these books appeared....FINAL VERSIONS.....thank you....Dont act like dung beteels and collect .....well......points...be true...

We aint the liars bub...if u cannot digest the truth...just dont vomit on justice....or something like that.....;-P...seriously we dont lkie...so tare...hehehehe

Answer 1

The Torah then the Bible then the Quran, they are all by the same author (God)

As for muslims we believe that the Bible and Torah were corrupted


As for Christians they believe the Torah was corrupted and the Quran was fabricated.


As for the Jews they hold to the fact that their Torah is not corrupted and the rest are fabricated.


This is in reference to the followers post.

As to validating the Quran based on the Bible, you need to note that it is referring to some of the information it contains, not all. If the two were exactly the same there would be no need for the Quran, but some of the information has changed since the original bible and torah. eg. Trinity.



This is in refutation to the following post. Sorry if i offend anyone. not my intention by any means.


Christians believe that the Bible was written by 40 authors all inspired. The Bible muslims believe in was only inspired to Jesus
whatever else is not god's word, to muslims.

As to verse 2:136

002.136 YUSUFALI: Say ye: "We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to Allah (in Islam)."

It means that we believe that revelation was given to them. If i didn't believe jesus was given the bible i wouldn't be a muslim.

Not that the bible and torah are those given to them (prophet) with the exception of Moses and Jesus none of those books stated are existing today or at the time of the prophet so this verses refers to muslims having to believe that revelation was given to them.


As to taking offense that muslims believe that the Bible and Torah are corrupted, please don't take offense to it. You as a christian, inherently believe that the Quran is fabricated. i don't and can't take offense to it. Furthermore, the bible itself states that the torah has been corrupted by the lieing hand of the scribes this can be found in the bible

Jeremiah 8:8
How do you say, We are wise, and the law of Yahweh is with us? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has worked falsely.

This is in reference to the jews which for whatever reason are your first 5 books.

Now if we are to use precedence to validate the books why don't we apply the same with the new testament and the old testaments. Isn't it so that none of the old testament is binding to christians so then how is it god is contradicting himself in that instance. The Jews don't believe in a trinity they don't eat pork. Why then don't you follow them.

As to the authenticity of the Quran, each verse had to be attested to by two witnesses. The quran was written as it was revealed and Furthermore, Hafsa, the wife of the prophet had a copy of the quran. ie it went through validation.

All your others references of the quran are too vague (sura alone isn't enough you ought to give verses too)

I write this so that no muslim should take offense when someone says the quran is fabricated and so that no christian takes offense because muslims believe the bible is fabricated.

Answer 2

Four revelations of Allah (swt) are mentioned by name in the Qur’an: the Taurah, the Zaboor, the Injeel and the Qur’an.

Taurah, the revelation given to Moosa (a. s.) i.e. Moses (pbuh).

Zaboor, the revelation given to Dawood (a.s.) i.e. David (pbuh).

Injeel, the revelation given to Isa (A.S.) ie. Jesus (pbuh).

‘Al-Qur’an’, the last and final revelation given to the last and final Messenger Muhammad (pbuh).

It is an article of faith for every Muslim to believe in all the Prophets of God and all revelations of God. However, the present day Bible has the first five books of the Old Testament attributed to Moses and the Psalms attributed to David. Moreover the New Testament or the four Gospels of the New Testament are not the Taurah, the Zaboor or the Injeel, which the Qur’an refers to. These books of the present day Bible may partly contain the word of God but these books are certainly not the exact, accurate and complete revelations given to the prophets.

The Qur’an presents all the different prophets of Allah as belonging to one single brotherhood; all had a similar prophetic mission and the same basic message. Because of this, the fundamental teachings of the major faiths cannot be contradictory, even if there has been a considerable passage of time between the different prophetic missions, because the source of these missions was one: Almighty God, Allah. This is why the Qur’an says that the differences which exist between various religions are not the responsibility of the prophets, but of the followers of these prophets who forgot part of what they had been taught, and furthermore, misinterpreted and changed the scriptures. The Qur’an cannot therefore be seen as a scripture which competes with the teachings of Moses, Jesus and the other prophets. On the contrary, it confirms, completes and perfects the messages that they brought to their people.

Another name for the Qur’an is the ‘The Furqan’ which means the criteria to judge the right from the wrong, and it is on the basis of the Qur’an that we can decipher which part of the previous scriptures can be considered to be the word of God.

Answer 3

It never ceases to amaze us that many modern Muslims feel that they have the perfect right and freedom to criticize the Bible as being corrupt and contradictory but whenever anyone dares to criticize the Quran along the same lines, they label this as rude, offensive and blasphemous! What Muslims must understand is that if they have the freedom to criticize the Bible, then other people have the same freedom to criticize the Quran. After all, "What is sauce for the gander is sauce for the goose!" Any religion which refuses to allow people to examine its sacred book using the normal rules of research and logic evidently has something to hide.

Though there are many aspects of Islam that can be proved to be illogical and contradictory, we are going to take just one very important aspect, that is, the Quran. Since the Quran claims to be free of all error as proof of its inspiration in Sura 85:21,22, the presence of just one error in the Quran is enough to case serious doubt on that claim. Throughout his early ministry, Muhammad constantly appealed to the Old and New Testament Scriptures as the basis and standard by which his teachings should be judged. He would say that if you wanted to know whether he was speaking the truth, go to the people of the Book and ask them to look in their Scriptures to see whether or not what he was saying was true (Suras 2 to 13, 16 to 17, 20 to 21, 23, 25 to 26, 28 to 29, 32, 34 to 35, 39 to 48, etc.).

The Bible must be the standard which judges all new revelations including the Quran itself. This is simply a point of chronology. Muhammad came 600 years after Jesus Christ. The Quran thus comes after the completion of the New Testament. The Quran itself claims that it is a continuation of he Bible and it will not contradict it Sura 2:136). What this means logically is that whenever the Bible and the Quran have a conflict or contradiction, the Quran must give way, not the Bible. This is particularly true when the text of the Quran contradicts the text of the Bible. The Muslim position is that the same God (Allah) revealed the Bible and the Quran. Thus the Quran should never contradict the Bible, otherwise Allah would be contradicting himself. According to Muhammad there will be no conflict between the Bible and the Quran. Why? The Quran must agree with the older revelations because they all supposedly came from the same God.

On the one hand, if the Muslim rejects the Bible, he must also reject the Quran because it appeals to the Bible as God's word. On the other hand, if he accepts the Bible, he still must reject the Quran because it contradicts the Bible. Either way, the Quran loses. It must also be pointed out that the Muslims argue that the Quran must be perfect because would preserve his word infallibly. Yet if God failed to do this for the Bible, as they claim, why should he do this for the Quran?

Answer 4

imran_iori,
all you have to do is look it up, dude.

You seem so demanding and yet you put out little effort yourself; you can't even put a complete sentence together.

Stop being so lazy and people might take you more seriously.

The Bible's history is more complicated that you are thinking. It's older than the Quaran. The Torah is older than that.

Grow a brain and google it. Sheesh!

Answer 5

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Answer 6

Judaism ( tawrah), christianity and then Islam. Islam came after christianity because christians changed the bible, so it is to their advantage. I don't know why there are so many ignorant, brain washed christians here.

Answer 7

More Muslim myths, you people never stop do you?

Muslims lie like Pac-Man eats Pac-Pellets...

And that is all the time...

By the way, twit, I am a partly Jewish Female

Answer 8

theyre both fictional book written by drunk people trying to make other people think there is a god that no one can see or prove its existence