Question for atheists?

Question

The existense of God can be proven by human reason alone.
Answer me these questions: Why does matter exist at all? Where does it come from?
Remember it is a scientific FACT that nothing material can cause its own existence. there needs to be a cause for something to exist. nothing that is material just "pops" itself into existence.

Many believe the big bang created the universe. Who set off the big bang? the big bang needs a first cause, especially considering that if it was a fraction off in time and speed, the universe wouldn't exist.
many astrophysicists are saying God sarted the big bang.

We can't have an infinitely tall building without a bottom floor. eventually we come to the independent thing on which all other things depend. Everything depends on the first cause, but the first cause doesn't depend on anything. the FIRST CAUSE IS GOD.

God is the first cause. God always existed. He alone is the first cause . The one on which all other causes depend.

God is spiritual and not material. He has no beggining and no end. He simply is. Time and space was created by him.

devlsadvoct: of coarse i'm refuting creationism. That was invented in the 18th century and is not science. God and evolution can go together. Intra-species evolution is wrong however, when it comes to humans.

Onanist 13: you make two mistakes. God din't need to create the univrse. He can live eternally without the universe. Second, God is spiritual. That is why he doesn't change. The Universe is material and subject to change. God and the universe are different. God exists eternally because he is spirit.

Jim B: you mistake God for human. He is spirit. Why does he need a beggining? Time was created by God. The concept of begginning was invented by God. Eternity is a mystery. A human mind will never grasp it.

Answer 1

Why do I have to be an atheist to believe in the big bang?

Answer 2

God is not necessarily the first cause.

The first cause, or cosmological argument, says that everything has a cause, and, since we supposedly can’t have an infinite series of causes stretching into the past, God must be the first cause — an uncaused cause. This argument has at least four problems.
The main problem of the first cause argument is the idea that every event has a cause. As we discovered in the 20th century, the universe is actually ruled at the bottom level by quantum mechanics, in which it’s possible for events to have no cause. An obvious example of quantum mechanics in action is the radioactive decay of a uranium atom. There is no previous cause for each such event, and we can only predict it with probability. The averaging of quantum effects gives us the Newtonian experience that we have. However, Newtonian physics does not control the universe; quantum mechanics and Einsteinian relativity do. We now know that the universe has an intrinsic, bottom level of uncertainty that cannot be bypassed. Quantum mechanics also shows us that objects can appear out of nothing and then disappear back into nothing. Even in supposedly empty space, virtual particles are continuously appearing and disappearing. This is a real and measurable process, via what is known as the Casimir Effect.

The beginning of the universe — of all the matter and energy in it and even of time itself — is called the Big Bang. The science of quantum mechanics is only a century old, and already we've been able to get extremely close to understanding the beginning of the universe — with no god needed. How close can we get? Approximately a billionth of a billionth of a billionth of a billionth of a second after the Big Bang. The Big Bang theory is supported by extensive data. The four most prominent facts are:


The red shift of almost all galaxies — getting greater as their distance increases.
- This shows that the galaxies are flying away from each other — at greater speeds at greater distances.
The cosmic microwave background radiation.
- This is a remnant of the radiation from the Big Bang, and has cooled over time to the exact temperature predicted.
The proportions of the lightest elements and isotopes.
- This helps show that the calculations for nuclear interactions immediately following the Big Bang are correct.
The changes in galaxies as we look further away (and thus back in time), with distant galaxies more primitive.
- This shows some of the changes in the universe since the Big Bang, and confirms the deep time of the universe.
The physicist and cosmologist Alan Guth of MIT has put forth the scientific theory, called Inflation, that the Big Bang was just the result of a random quantum event called a vacuum fluctuation — with no cause, created out of the space vacuum, and with a total energy of zero. Even tho this doesn’t make sense in the Newtonian physics of our experience of the world, it does make sense in quantum mechanics and Einstein’s general relativity. In relativity, gravity is negative energy and matter is positive energy. Because the two seem to be equal in absolute total value, our universe appears balanced to the sum of zero. Our universe could thus have come into existence without violating conservation of mass and energy. There is also excellent experimental and theoretical evidence to support Inflation Theory. Even if Inflation Theory is eventually shown to be wrong or incomplete, that doesn’t mean that “God did it.”

The next problem of the first cause argument is the assumption that an infinite chain of events is impossible. Many cosmologists have proposed that our universe could be part of a much larger, super and perhaps eternal meta-universe; we certainly don’t know for sure, and may never know. However, this meta-universe would allow infinite chains of events.

Another problem comes from the definition of God as perfect and unchanging. If these qualities were true, then why would God need a universe and how could God change from not needing a universe to needing one?

The last problem with the first cause argument lies in its assumption that this eternal god exists, something that it is trying to prove. This is known as begging the question. Even a child can ask, “If God created the universe, then who created God?” If the answer is that God is uncaused, then the same answer could certainly be applied to the existence of the universe — that it is uncaused. Besides, which god are we talking about? People using the first cause argument always make the assumption that their god did the creating. Muslims think that Allah created the universe. Hindus think that Brahma did it. Christians and Jews think that Yahweh did it. Most religions have a story of how their god created the universe. The idea of a god as creator of the universe obviously tells us little about the characteristics of that god. What they are doing is explaining one mystery with a bigger mystery, and that is fallacious logic.

Answer 3

Sure, there must have been some "force" that created the universe. I'll agree with that much. But how do you know the Christian God was the one that started it? Why couldn't Allah have started it? The Ancient Greeks probably thought Zeus started it; why are they necessarily wrong? And how can you take a statement such as "There must have been a force that created the universe" and then say "Therefore, the Bible must be true," which is what I assume you're getting toward? How do you connect the dots? Even if there WAS a force that started everything, that doesn't mean that all the stuff in the Bible is any less preposterous -- people living to be 900+ years old, all of Jesus' "miracles" that make no sense, etc.

Answer 4

This is a question for scientists

Any how, if the existence of god can be proven by human reasons, I will have to again flip coins on which god - Allah, Jesus - Dad and the Spook, Shiva, Vishnu, Zeus ?? I mean Who ??

We are all made of matter - matter consists of 4 elements - Solid, Air, Liquid and Heat. Our existence is due to matter - if there was no matter - there wouldn't be anything physical anywhere. Matter doesn't come from anywhere it was there - like when u say God was there - didn't come from anywhere.

Cause for something to exist - same as God - cause for God to exist ?? Any body know ??

Learn the - Big Bang theory then you would know that it is a natural process and no body sets it off - like a volcano - or a Tsunami - it is a natural cause. There is a huge difference between natural causes and Man made causes.

Time would never be a factor for Big Bang - the only difference it would have made is that we would have been (+) or (-) some years - which wouldn't have mattered - what matters is that we are x number of years from the date of Big bang.

And for the astrophysicist - they are Christan and trying to patch up the mistakes and still trying to safe guard the concept of God !

Answer 5

The existence of God isn't proven to me human reason. NOt that I am an Atheist. But I disagree with you.

Matter could have been a random occurance that just happened.
I think matter comes from the joining of The God and Goddess.

The Big Bang theory is only one of many credible theories. The Laws of Nature caused Big Bang if it did occur.

Answer 6

You assume matter/energy was created. Which would require a creator.

Where did your creator come from?

If everything required creation, who created your creator?

Eliminate the creator and you have your answer: energy/matter have always existed and were not created by anyone or anything.

The "big bang" did not "create" anything. It was an event in a universe that already existed.

Response to your comments:

You obviously use a different definition for "reason" than most commonly use. Your "explanation" relies solely on magic since you assert an unprovable element in your equation.

"Magic" is not "reason." A creator that does not actually exist creating anything is the same as claiming the universe was created by "magic."

Answer 7

Didn't I just answer this the other day?

BRB with the answer AGAIN!!!


Why does matter exist at all? Does this mean you deny reality? Please explain.

Where does it come from? Fission/Fusion inside stars. DUHH!

Remember it is a scientific FACT that nothing material can cause its own existence. Yet you deny the scientific fact of evolution?

there needs to be a cause for something to exist. Like God needs a cause?

nothing that is material just "pops" itself into existence. So there wasn’t an immaculate conception? Thanks for clearing that up.
Sure, God could be the cause of the big bang, but every scientist does not consider that theory credible.
Let me guess you got your answer out of a 2,000 year old book. You need to read some more up to date literature.

Answer 8

You just can't just simply be. Always have been and always will be. Do you not understand what you just said?

It all started some how and I agree with that because I am setting here typing in this blog for my proof of being.

Your god had to come from some where. And if he is not really there then it all had to start some how. So the first step is to find out how it all started and once we learn that we will know if there is a god. But as you know that would still not be the end of it because we need to know where this fairytale god came from as well.

Something can't just be it had to start.

Answer 9

Can you really prove everything you just stated? Do you know for a fact that thee is not some instance when those thingas are not true? Remeber, 400 years ago no one believed that the earth could be round.
Also, not everyone believes the Big Bang thing, not even all the atheists.
Oh, yeah, do you really have heard evidence that God exists and not just what he has created or done?

Answer 10

Its simple really you see science is used to find logical answers of course we know much but not all there are things that cant be explained so fill in all of those spaces in life with the name of god god was invented havent you noticed that anythng that we cant explain you go and say god did it its so simple.We only have the name of god because we use it to explain thing that no one can nothing else.

Answer 11

Science tries to understand things through observation and measurement. The jury is still out for a lot of things. Science tries not to jump to conclusions when speculating the meaning of observations. Sometimes that happens but scientists are open to challenge of ideas and demand measurable proofs for these ideas.

Many religeons,on the other hand, are subject to magic thinking and circular argument for proving ideas. Once established it becomes taboo to question or challenge these ideas. You call this human reason?