Where do people get off saying the old testament is no longer valid?

Question

The new testament is comprised of many quotes from the old testament. The following quote tells us what Jesus thinks.
Mth 5:17. Think not that I AM COME NOT TO DESTROY THE LAW OR THE PROPHETS: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

There are various law in the old testament
Ceremonial
Sacrificial
Moral
and health
How are you picking and chosing which laws were done away with?
Col 2:13. And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;14. Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
15. And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. 16. Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17. Which are a SHADOW OF THINGS TO COME; but the body is of Christ.
- this is simply telling me the sacrificial laws which pointed to Christs coming were nailed to the cross. The ones that required blood to be shed for the forgiveness of sin!Oklatom - I do read by Bible in context- do you?

Answer 1

I agree wih you. I tell people that the Old Testament is just as relevant today as it was before the time of Christ. The Old Testament foretells, the New Testament fullfills. God bless.

Answer 2

From the very beginning of the Hebrew Bible, it teaches that there will be false prophets who will come and attempt to persuade the Israelites to follow these promoters of various false gods.
When Christianity became the Religion of the world by edict of Constantinius the Roman Emperor, it was a political move, to select one of the thousands of contending religions to be the State religion. At that time, Mithrism had been one of the major religions, and it became very political for the Christian priests to incorporate the elements which were most popular with the Roman soldiers, which included the sacrifice of a human for sins, the Eucharist of Christianity was adopted directly in addition to several other pagan religion teachings, including, virgin birth, death and resurrection of the dead man-god. This all necessitated some form of replacement of the other religions, but while, Christianity had seen a need for a substantiation for their new religion, choosing the Torah, was both a smart move and a dumb one at the same time, because everything about Christian doctrine is contradictory to The Hebrew Bible. SO while Jesus supposed declares the Hebrew Bible Torah as essential, later Christian apologists still had to make provision in the new religion for all the pagan cult religion doctrines they had incorporated. Its called Synergism. Sincerely

Answer 3

It is not a question of being valid but of looking at the Bible as a whole. If anyone could keep ALL the Old testament laws and NEVER fall short there would be no need for Jesus. Like that really about to happen! Also, the LAW as known to the prophets was for the purpose of preserving God's people until the coming of Jesus. He did indeed fullfill the prophets. It is much like have training wheels on a bike. You have them until you can ride without them. With Jesus we no longer need the training wheels. That does not mean that they are useless in and of themselves.

Answer 4

I agree with you ... I think that the only thing that is no longer valid in the Old Testament is the Jewish ceremonial law, which was fulfilled in Christ (including dietary restrictions etc.), and the laws by which the theocracy of Israel was ruled (for example stoning adulterers). Everything else is still applicable, including the 10 commandments.

We are under grace now, but His grace enables us to obey the law ... it doesn't free us to disregard it.

Besides, we miss out on the full picture of redemption, if we toss out all that came in the OT and pointed to Christ ...

Answer 5

it just boils down to interpretation generally. or what part of the bible you choose to believe because the bible has contradictions between the two testaments. such as "eye for an eye..." then the new says "turn the other cheek" most people say you turn the other cheek because jesus did and we are to live as jesus did. therefore a book full of contradictions would say that the new testament is what you should go by. now my personal believe is that both books are valuable. the old testament is the history and the prophecy....the new is the fulfillment of god's promises. so both to me are important to study.

Answer 6

I think the point Jesus was making was sin is still sin, some things from the old testement were rules that if broken were sin, and that they are still sin, but that his point was believing in him means that the person doesnt have to die for this sin but can have life with God eternal after death.

One thing to note thou on this is Leviticus 11:7-8 says dont eat pork and 9-12 states shrimp are an abomination, then in Matthew 15 Jesus speaks of it doesnt defile you from without but immorrality defiles from with in.

So does that mean eating shrimp is still a sin or is what Jesus saying its not going to defile you to eat shrimp?

Answer 7

I agree with you totally. I believe that the old Testament is just as valid as the new. But to explain to people who think they are going to hell because they base their salvation on the 10 commandments instead of the blood that was shed because of the mercy of God, this is hard to explain to people that we can now freely confess our sins and ask for forgiveness.

Answer 8

The OT is valid. The old Jewish dietary laws are not, and they certainly are not meant for non-Jewish people then or now.



Edit: Jesus was talking to Jews-not us. Everything must be taken in context-else we could have hundreds of denominations to split off of Christianity-duh.

Answer 9

Because the OT was mostly laws and rituals for forgiveness. Christ eliminated all of those for our salvation.

Answer 10

I keep asking them that, too. You aren't gonna get any real answers, just a bunch of ignorant folks who don't understand that books are for reading, and then you have to comprehend what you read.

They are going to say that you don't understand, that you have changed the word of god and you are going to hell, but what they won't do is answer this question.