when Jesus plainly said that His kingdom is not of this world ?
2006-08-05 02:03:26 · 10 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Couple points, voters should vote their conscience, but in this national discussion we should discuss certain things.
Example gay marriage.
Leviticus 18.22 teaches homosexuality is abomination.
Leviticus 11:9-12 teaches eating shrimp is an abomination.
This is in some English translations I have learned the Hebrew it actually teaches the word dirty in 18.22
We see in Matthew 15:1-9 Jesus says eat what you want it comes out the other end and this doesn't defile you but sexual immorrality defiles you from within.
So clearly, the shrimp ban was removed for the Christian, but not the gay sex issue. Words of Jesus.
Ultimately the more I talk to Christians the more I realize their moderate position. They are for gays having jobs and cars and seeing their loved one in a hospital, and since gay marriage is illegal in 48 states, how much of an issue is it really?
So this now is a wedge issue in that it is stiring up the homophobia in voters to go vote Rebublican.
By the way regarding our face of God debate from 3 months ago, Exodus 33.11 God and moses are talking face to face, v17 Moses asks to see Gods glory, and in English in v20 in the NKJV it says God saying no one can see my face or they die. It says the same thing in the NIV.
Two things, one is v11 is metaphorical for its use of face. I disagree with this entirely. The Hebrew has the word glory in v20. Its not translated correctly. I feel the transfiguration Peter James and John saw was seeing God's glory, that God choose to give them that opportunity and live. Symbolic in the faith in Jesus leading to a conquering of death perhaps? Hmm, hmm. And the fact that Moses is in these verses with Elijah makes for a pleasant read also.
So should people get out and vote yes. Should we base American law on God law? NO! LEviticus 25.44 teaches conditions for slavery. Jesus never abolished slavery.
So my whole point is the Congress and the Senate need to spend more time dealing with health care and getting us out of Iraq and not time talking about who is playing patty cake with who in the bedroom.
K, thanks
2006-08-05 02:14:54 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
We are the part of the Kingdom that resides on Earth. We are responsible for our actions while here. I would choose to help further Gods kingdom by making sure the laws of the land remain moral and do not hinder people from living the Truth.
2006-08-05 09:11:49 · answer #2 · answered by CatholicMOM 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
He also said "render onto caesar what is caesar's". Every member of society has a duty to that society. In a free society that includes participating in the political process. To be a believer is not to abandon the world, it is to seek to change the world for the better. There are arguments about what method or politics would do a better job of that, but we all want a better world. God created the world and pronounced everything in it 'Good'. We are called to do all in our power to help that process, materially as well as spiritually.
2006-08-05 09:34:48 · answer #3 · answered by Freeadviceisworthwhatyoupayfor 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
For the most part people who seek to enforce their ideas on others by influencing politics are not really Christians at all.
They are usually bigots pretending to be Christians.
Love and blessings
don
2006-08-05 09:19:17 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Jesus also spoke about the issues of his time. (ie: Regarding taxes, "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's - and God what belongs to God." Mt. 22:21-22) He gave specific directives about how to live. (ie: "love one another" Jn 13:34 and the golden rule, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." John 22:39-40) He instructed his apostle to go and spread His word. How can you live His message without speaking against injustice? How can you follow His directives by remaining silent on political issues?
Christ, Himself, became a victim because he spoke out against the "politicians" of the time. He tried to teach them and became "entangled in politics" by not accepting their ignorance. Instead, He spoke about their hypocrisy, and they devised to kill Him.
The Lord's kingdom is "not of this world," but we are, and He came into this world to lead us by His example. We need to follow His teachings while we are here in order to reach His Kingdom. Christians are still called to follow His example, spread His word, and speak out against injustice.
2006-08-05 09:34:28 · answer #5 · answered by Caritas 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
We live in a democratic republic. You can't exclude anybody's participation in government based on their religious beliefs. With eighty-something percent of Americans calling themselves Christians, there will inevitably be some Christian ideology in the laws.
2006-08-05 09:21:03 · answer #6 · answered by infinity 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
every person, irregardless of their religion, should be responsible citizens and contribute to their society, public safety, and upholding of values..
jesus may have said his kingdom is not of this world at the time, but his plan was to eventually bring this kingdom to earth..so it would be "on earth as it is in heaven."
2006-08-05 09:18:56 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Matt 6:9 and10 , enough said.
2006-08-05 09:26:43 · answer #8 · answered by Homer Jones 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It can not be justified. It just doesnt make sense considering God and church are no longer allowed to be in our schools or in our government.
2006-08-05 09:10:02 · answer #9 · answered by LadyRaven 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
get the church out of politics the no beleavers can stop having there live ruled by somthing thay do no want
2006-08-05 09:11:56 · answer #10 · answered by andrew w 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋