This idea of loving the sinner and hating the sin, if the so-called sin is ingrained into the sinner's heart and soul?
I'm convinced this is meaningless rhetoric, a weak attempt at diplomacy. Show me that I can be wrong.
2006-08-05 01:38:50 · 9 answers · asked by aethermanas 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Here's the problem. I'm not talking about choice or behaviour. I'm talking about the sin being ingrained into the very existence of the person. The cases where the sin is an inseperable and unchangable part from the person.
2006-08-05 01:59:49 · update #1
Don't get needlessly contrary. The term I used is a common way to refer to three major world religions, and you know that.
2006-08-05 02:01:32 · update #2
I can't show you that the truth is a lie.
2006-08-05 01:41:30 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I dont really understand what you mean by "idea of loving the sinner" but i will try to add my view.
We are all humans and by definition we can fall into sins, we do have a part in all of us that wants us to do endless sins. The importan message that islam, a branch of Abrahamic religions, brings is that no matter how much sinful a person is; there is always hope. He just needs to ask for God to forgive all of his sins sincerely and he should have an intention of not doing those sins again. No matter what the situation is, being hopeful is the main point.
2006-08-05 08:49:03 · answer #2 · answered by psy 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Sin does not reside in the heart and soul. A person can be very much trapped in sin--so that it seems impossible for them to stop, but I would still love them. And so does Jesus. All it takes is true repentance and the Sacrament of Confession for Jesus to take away the sins of the sinner and to send graces which with persistance and prayer will help the sinner to remain strong against temptation.
2006-08-05 08:45:06 · answer #3 · answered by CatholicMOM 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I don't know of any cases where the sin is ingrained into the sinner's heart and soul and can't be separated. That is exactly what happens when Jesus comes into our hearts. We are separated from the sin that until that point has ruled our lives and shown the way of rightousness. When Jesus comes into our hearts we turn from our sinful existence and look to Him for guidance.
2006-08-05 09:21:27 · answer #4 · answered by racam_us 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Because Christians have coined the term Judeo-Christianity, does not mean they know what Jews believe. Far from it!
In Judaism, what is in your heart has nothing whatsoever to do with sin. I've seen many many posts on Yahoo about action and good deeds can never get one into "heaven." You can only get to "heaven" by what's in your heart.
In Judaism, it is only action that can atone for sin. Spreading slander (Gibson) is one of Judaism's worst sins because once it has spread (worldwide in Gibson's case), he can never make amends. In Judaism, Mel must seek forgiveness from every single person he has offended and then his actions must prove that he will not sin again. Only after he has asked forgiveness from every single person (three times if necessary to receive forgiveness) can he ask forgiveness from God.
Please don't lump Judaism with other "Abrahamic" religions. Whatever you learn from Christians about the "Old Testament" is Christianity -- not Judaism! If you're interested in Judaism, study Torah with Jews. I guarantee you will be amazed at what you find!
Shalom my friend
2006-08-05 09:10:09 · answer #5 · answered by Hatikvah 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
well, you can hate what a person does but still love the person themselves because you believe that the person isn't doing it because they are evil, per say, but just that they are "misguided".
this is the logic behind that phrase.
if said person is evil to begin with and therefore does evil things, then you can't really love the sinner because they are an evil person who i don't think is worthy of our pity or adoration.
but christianity today goes with the whole "people are born good" theory, but this really depends on the denomination. some are still all fire and brimstone, and they don't buy this theory. only the "hippie" christians really believe that phrase. and when i say hippie i don't mean that in the derogatory sense because i like hippies, lol.
2006-08-05 08:47:31 · answer #6 · answered by Aleks 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
There is no such thing as "Abrahamic religions". God made a covenant with Abraham. Part of that covenant extended beyond the validity of Judaism into Christianity.
2006-08-05 08:50:17 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Do you have a younger sibling? Did they ever do anything to really p*ss you off? I bet you still loved them, didn't you? It is not at all difficult to love a person, but hate their deeds. You need to be more open-minded, for you are obviously very, very wrong, dear.
2006-08-05 08:45:00 · answer #8 · answered by Emm 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Can you tell me why a mother loves the child who (still) disobeys her?
2006-08-05 08:42:45 · answer #9 · answered by mmfmmk 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋